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Quim
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Quote: from stickbkkbkk on 11:39 am on Aug. 29, 2009
my life in the west as a whole is something I can die happy with.
Then why do you keep leaving it to go "mongering"?
Quote: from stickbkkbkk on 11:39 am on Aug. 29, 2009
as for view such as all women are prostitutes. I agree once again,... there's some comfort in having a wife that's quite special until you get the divorce
You are again sounding oddly negative and contradictory... what exactly is it that makes up your life "in the west" that you "can die happy with"? Where is the comfort? 
Actually, I think we are all prostitutes, and therefore none of us are, by the grammatical dynamics of overpopulation. But if you want to reserve it for "women", that's okay, just leave the girls out of it, Okay? Because not one of the TGs that I have met was anything but a sweet, supple, sexy mother-f*cking... sigh... girl.
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 12:30 am on Aug. 29, 2009
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DaffyDuck
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Quote: from Quim on 12:30 pm on Aug. 29, 2009
But if you want to reserve it for "women", that okay, just leave the girls out of it, Okay? Because not one of the TGs that I have met was anything but a sweet, supple, sexy mother-f*cking... sigh... girl.
I'll second that (of course I do).
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Bangkok Women : Meet Sensual Bangkok Women
Posted on: 12:43 am on Aug. 29, 2009
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stickbkkbkk
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quim, your questions assume that life is only about sex.
i go mongering to fulfill the sex life I only dream about at home. but there are many components of my home life that I find very fulfilling such as raising my kids and building my career.
for your second question, again, you seem to assume that women's role is only to provide sex. my wife provides the support that I can not get in any mongering destinations I have visited. but the fact that I monger shouldn't imply that my wife isn't playing her role as a good mother and a good wife otherwise at home.
i respect all views, but these are mine.
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 9:19 am on Aug. 29, 2009
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snpark,
Extending your definition we are all prostitutes. Its not just about dinner and sex. How about I live in another country I hate just because you give me a lot of money? Thats what I am doing. When you decide that every thing is tit for tat so that makes the woman a prostitute than I guess I think that makes us all prostitutes. The bottom line is if you are doing something for money that you wouldn't do for free than in some form you are sellinging yourself. So what?
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Sexy Bangkok Girls
Posted on: 9:47 am on Aug. 29, 2009
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Quim
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To the contrary stickbkkbkk, I am merely responding to your apparent assertion that YOU believe your western life is MORE important than sex.
And yet you seek it out in its most (just MHO) unappetizing forms in tijuana and the like, and thereby risk the very things you say could permit you to die happy. Don't you think there is some contradiction or tension there? After all, why are you willing to risk it all for sex? Especially for mediocre to bad sex.
Now, if you were talking about not being able to give up traveling to LOS, even if it meant your wife finding out one day and taking the kids and moving back to her mother's, well, then I would understand. Because LOS is not a choice we make, once it has its teeth in us. It is a hunger, a craving that cannot be denied or avoided. You ask if it is like crack... you have noooo idea.
On second thoughts, stay away from LOS. It might just undo the happy balance you claim to have struck with your two separate worlds. Because as some other posts on here have intimated, part of what makes LOS so deadly a contagion is that it is very difficult to keep it from seeping into every crack and crevice of your "normal" life.
To the point where you start to contemplate, in the long, dull afternoons spent hunkered over your keyboard, under your florescent lights, with all your dull tasks at hand, just chucking it all in and moving to LOS. There is probably not a foreign member on this forum who has not thought about it at least once or twice, and quite a few who have actually done it.
No disrespect meant, but LOS will only make your life seem, if anything, too comfortable, your wife even less desirable as a sexual partner (how long do you think that will last?), and your impatience for your children to grow up and move out will only get worse. So yes, do stay away from paradise. Because you might just not want to keep your worlds separate any longer.
Just my two satangs. By the way, I've enjoyed the conversation your original comments sparked, and I respect that you have stuck around.
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 12:02 pm on Aug. 29, 2009
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haam sup
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Ya know, in the end, it's all about meeting each others' needs...many of us need some sexual excitement, and variety, and the girls need cash...
What makes Thailand special is that it is not uncommon to enjoy each others' company as well, and to make friends that can transcend the mere cash transaction. This is something that doesn't usually happen with Western prostitutes, at least the way things have become.
True, there is a trend away from the more pleasant interactions, even in Thailand, and especially in the farang-oriented bar areas. But there is a MUCH bigger supply, and less external harassment to deal with in LOS than in Western countries, so it evens out.
I have read many reports of 'mongerers' in the US, and they invariably resort to furtive assignations in some alley, deal with predatory pimps and girls, and/or get busted by the cops. There is something desperate about it, something which doesn't belong, IMO, in Thailand.
I guess if you resort to cruising Lumpini Park in the wee hours, you could approximate the experience of Stateside cruising and taking your life in your hands, but why? You can do that at home, say, on Harbor Bl., or Figueroa, or El Cajon Bl. (popular spots in SoCal).
Anyway, we can avoid having to pidgenhole or characterize the women we pay for sex, by acknowledging that they are not much different than us - we all have needs. No reason to disparage them by calling them whores, any more than we deserve to be disparaged by calling us 'tricks', or 'johns'. No moral superiority in this transaction, says I.
hs
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Bangkok Women : Meet Beautiful Thai Girls
Posted on: 12:33 pm on Aug. 29, 2009
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stickbkkbkk
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didn't mean to insult your decision quim.
bottomline is that everyone has different things that makes him/her happy. I have mine here. it seems you have yours in thailand. they just happen to be very different from mine.
i agree this discussion has took on a tangent. I looked, but couldn't lock the thread down as an OP. it was an interesting read of very very different perspectives in life.
just fyi, I work under 21 halogen lamps.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 12:38 pm on Aug. 29, 2009
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Quim
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And nicely said hs.
Personally, I think that western prostitutes (the relatively high-class sort, the only kind I am familiar with) are trying to protect themselves by, as stickbkkbkk is doing, keeping their two worlds separate. Hence the old "pretty woman" adage, "I don't kiss on the lips" (although truth be told, many western pros do, especially if you are a repeat customer).
They are trying to keep their two worlds separate in order to maintain the pretense, scr*wing for money aside, that they have "normal" lives where sex is supposedly not a commodity.
What I find amusing, or sad, is how they equate keeping the two worlds separate with not having any fun with the customer. They expressly don't want it to feel good because that would be too much like having sex in the other world they are clinging to. In other words, if you are not enjoying it, then you aren't really there.
Most TGs, thank Buddha, have no such hang ups. And that, as has already been stated in this thread, is the big, big difference. But it is also where things get more complicated, of course. The two worlds become one.
If I may digress for a moment, this discussion reminds me of this one Korean American girl in NYC who was a "masseuse" down in the Wall Street area. She was different from the Korean pros straight off the plane, obviously educated, perfect English. I never asked her for FS. But she would provide an excellent, teasing, full body massage, with a long happy ending. What made her unusual, though, was that she actually enjoyed our sessions.
I remember this one hot, lazy Sunday afternoon in August, walking up the stairs to the hidden apartment on a small street near Beaver and Exchange Place (appropriately enough). She was gorgeous hot, even though I could tell she was approaching 30. Towards the end of the "massage" we ended up with me sitting on the edge of the padded table, with her standing between my legs, my one hand in her quim, and my fingers in her ass, deep french kissing as she stroked me for what felt like ages. We were both completely covered in sweat and cum by the end.
When her friend next door knocked on the door (we were running over the one hour) to ask what we were doing, all she said was, with a smile to me, "We are just having some fun."
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Thai Girls : Meet Active Thai Girls
Posted on: 1:11 pm on Aug. 29, 2009
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Quim
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No offense stickbkkbkk, but there you go again. Why do you presume to know the "choice" I have made, and why would you even consider locking down a thread on this forum?
Why so many halogens? Are you a pot grower? That was a joke, you don't have to answer.
Whatever makes you happy stick. Each to their own.
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 1:17 pm on Aug. 29, 2009
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DaffyDuck
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Quote: from stickbkkbkk on 9:19 pm on Aug. 29, 2009
for your second question, again, you seem to assume that women's role is only to provide sex. my wife provides the support that I can not get in any mongering destinations I have visited. but the fact that I monger shouldn't imply that my wife isn't playing her role as a good mother and a good wife otherwise at home.
Good compartmentalizing - I respect that, and I agree.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 2:44 pm on Aug. 29, 2009
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