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rperrin60
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My first "fun" trip to the LOS is coming up, and some of the discussions here of STDs have scared me. I am married and don't know how I would be able to handle it if I caught something and, god forbid, passed it on to my wife. I plan on being covered for everything, but I know I am still at some risk.
I see there are a lot of repeat P4P clients on this board. Can I do a quick poll and ask: 1) approximately how many times have you 'been with' TGs, and 2) how many times have you come back with something. From this maybe I can do a rough calculation of my chances!
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 3:30 am on June 28, 2004
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LivinLOS
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100's... Never...
Also am guilty of more than a few bareback girls !!
Though I have had the odd dose of thrush (jungle balls  ) but that has as much to do with the heat and too much sex as transference from partner. No underwear and baggy shorts helps and a quick rub of canasten clears it in a day or so.
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Bangkok Women : Meet Sensual Bangkok Women
Posted on: 3:39 am on June 28, 2004
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Bangkoksexydotcom
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More then I can count +500 and never ever had something from them
But of course rubber dubber is a must
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 3:40 am on June 28, 2004
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Journeyman2002
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After watching a Panorama programme on BBC TV last night, I visited the website http://www.bbc.co.uk/panorama and have cut and pasted the following and would appreciate any members comments and/or observations;
The best figures we have for condom effectiveness in practice come from what's known as meta-analysis of different individual studies of sero-discordant couples.
Sero-discordant couples are those in which one person is HIV infected and the other isn't.
The meta-analyses are by Steve Pinkerton, and by Weller and Davis (the one quoted in the 2000 Workshop Summary).
One problem is that the length of studies are different. The Saracco study for example was conducted for 2 years. But Weller, Pinkerton and the WHO all agree the studies indicate that over a period of about a year about 99% of the uninfected partners of "always" condom users remained HIV negative.
Out of 867 sero-discordant couples not using condoms, Pinkerton found 171 HIV negative partners became infected. Of 277 couples saying they did use condoms consistently, there were 4 such infections.
Weller and Davis say "always" users became infected at the rate of 1.14 per 100 person-years, while "never" users became infected (or "sero-converted") at the rate of 5.75 per 100 person years.
Although the statistical practice is to give rates for one year, Dr Hitchcock told Panorama, "It is important to stress that each act of condom use is independent. In other words, the risk does not accumulate with each use of a condom. We have good evidence to suggest the opposite is true."
Dr Hitchcock explained, "There are three ways that prevention of HIV infection with use of condoms improves over time: 1) skills for putting the condom on correctly improve - "new" users of condoms will have a slippage and breakage rate of 10-15% per year whereas "practiced" users reduce that rate to 1%.
2) communication skills improve with practice - people get better at talking to their partners about condom use; 3) comfort with condom use increases and it becomes habitual - much like getting used to driving with a seat belt on."
Of course someone having sex with an HIV positive partner for 10 years with a condom will run a greater risk than if they only had sex in the same way for a year.
Some scientists and AIDS control agencies like to give a "risk reduction" figure - generally regarded as 80-90%.
We didn't use this figure on our programme because we think it can be - and has been - too easily misunderstood. Condoms are often described as being '80-90% effective - leading people to think that this means they fail 10% or 20% of the time.
A risk reduction estimate means that condoms can reduce your risk of becoming HIV positive - whatever that risk is - by 80-90%.
It is a figure derived from those 'sero-discordant' studies mentioned above by comparing how many uninfected people get the virus when they use always use condoms - with the number that get infected when they use them inconsistently or never use them at all.
In general what scientists find is that consistent use of condoms can reduce the risk of getting infected to between 10-20% of what it would be for people who never use them or who don't only use them regularly.
In all cases there is enormous protective advantage to using a condom compared to not using the condom - once a decision to have sex has been taken.
Dr Steve Pinkerton told Panorama, "A 10% failure rate doesn't mean the virus is going to be transmitted 10% of the time. Your partner might not be infected, or even if they are infected, the virus quite simply may not be transmitted.
"All it means is that 10% of the time there is a possibility of transmission. The other 90% of the time there is absolutely no possibility of transmission."
So - these figures show condoms offer substantial protection but are not perfect or foolproof.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Sexy Bangkok Girls
Posted on: 8:02 am on June 28, 2004
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LivinLOS
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That 10% seems awfully high..
One thing the piece above fails to mention at all is whether this is Male to Female transmission (very high rate) or Female to Male transmission (surprisingly low rate)...
I know someone in Europe living in a couple of whom the female is HIV and he is not.. They were together having unprotected sex for 4.5 years before she was diagnosed. She had it the whole time and they had frequent regular sex including anal. He is negative !!
A doc told him that the transfer rate for 'straight' and 'non violent' sex (where no skin is broken) from female to male is as low as 0.002% !!
I am beggining to believe that female to male transfer of HIV during regular sex is much lower than many people think. I know someone who has been out here for years... >800 girls (always bareback if they let him) during the late 80's and early 90's when HIV was supposed to be at epidemic proportions in the working girls.. He is still clean and free..
Of course with a wife and family back home forget about it.
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 8:24 am on June 28, 2004
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expatchuck
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rperrin60:
If you are so worried about it, just don't do it. Play golf, swim a lot and go on Temple tours.
I personally have had literally millions of ladies and have had crabs twice. Kind of fun to pick the scabs off and watch them walk away though.
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Bangkok Women : Meet Beautiful Thai Girls
Posted on: 9:01 am on June 28, 2004
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Mr Alan
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You can purchase antibiotics in Thailand such as Cipro, which is used to treat some sexually transmitted diseases such as gonorrhea. Genuine Bayer Cipro is relatively expensive, but the dosage for STD's is fairly short in duration. I believe that Watson's pharmacy sells them by the tablet.
Be sure to read the dosage and warnings for this drug (or any drug you take). Check out this website:
http://www.healthsquare.com/pdrfg/pd/monos/cipro.htm
Check out the section on drug interactions (including vitamins) carefully.
There are also several other antibiotics that can be used. Make sure you get a copy of the instructions for each drug you purchase. Information is also available on the web.
I am not a physician, so take that into consideration when reading the above information. Many people have warned against taking antibiotics as a precaution without a positive diagnosis, but I doubt it would cause a problem if only done once per year.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 9:13 am on June 28, 2004
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LocalYokul
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i've had plenty of BBBJs with no worries, as well as heaps of my friends.
I do however NOT recommend a FJ without a rubber...
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Thai Girls : Meet Active Thai Girls
Posted on: 9:18 am on June 28, 2004
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samthedog
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Dear reggie
I am married and don't know how I would be able to handle it if I caught something and, god forbid, passed it on to my wife.
she would at worst, cut your bollocks off, at best take you to the cleaners, or if not, never trust you again!
I plan on being covered for everything, but I know I am still at some risk.
yes! Bring a huge collection of reliable, tried and tested UK condoms, of the right size and flavour.
Sounds like you will be sh_tting yourself for about 6 months after the first aids test!
hehehehehe
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 9:44 am on June 28, 2004
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aircrest
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40 years of punting in asia. Never covered until 98. Only one case of epadamitus from cambodia and not sure that is considered an STD. BJ are still not covered.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 10:06 am on June 28, 2004
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