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Thornny
hmmmm. So... Basically I cannot know the truth until meeting, and then ever it is hazy.... Yes, I understand where you are coming from.... What she says means nothing... Do you think I will have problems with this girl then?


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Posted on: 11:03 pm on Oct. 14, 2017
cheapcharlie
So she said the right things exactly what you want to hear ? many are trained in this. On the outside so sweet and demure but actially as cunning as a fox. But maybe yours is the exception.

This is online a dating site in English so I assume aimed at thai women looking for Farang. This will attract the sharks lol. If I join a site like this even without a photo my mail box will be full just because im breathing and farang.


To be honest I dont understand why you make things so complicated for yourself. You have limited time are married but seem determined you wont go whoring but try to get a so called nicer girl into bed.

The whole point of whores is you know what you get and they go away without fuss once your finished. Oh yes its possible to pick up girls on TF or FB but that takes experience like DG says or your entering a hornets nest or wasting your time. A true player filters them out instinctively then sets traps to learn the truth. While pretending to be a newbie.

You seem to trust everything they say as gospel ? Sorry but how you know because she said so? If she said she was a virgin would you believe? You think you have all the angles covered and you wont do this or that. But if they already have you in their sights as prey then you are already dog meat.


Just be careful there are normal ones I have met them but I guess large part are not only whores but diggers for gold be it marriage or whatever mia noi who knows.

Finding a decent f*** buddy or geek if thats what your looking for takes time. You need to meet them online is not enough. I assume you skyped or c 2 c right ?


She sounds too good to be true.So you have to ask yourself why has she not been grabbed. No kids, no money troubles are the standard things that might put a guy off so they will all lie to some degree. You just have to find out to what degree without giving a feeling you dont trust her. As then you will get the tears ' you dont believe me' and it can happen fast.

If there were oscar nominations..... I mean do you beleive Al Pacino is a heavy gangster.


When they want something its often like 3 party removed so she may say she is financially secure or this or that but may one day suddenly have a problem. Told in such a way that its not your worry but before you know it your at WU. Because you put your guard down when you believe her story and she know it. Plan in action the fish took the bait. Or she could be genuine! it happens.


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Posted on: 12:54 am on Oct. 15, 2017
Thornny
Yes I know I am complicating things. Yes we did some chat online face-to-face. But not for very long maybe 20 minutes. She's quite a funny girl. But again like you said maybe it's just what I want to hear.


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Posted on: 1:11 am on Oct. 15, 2017
cheapcharlie

Quote: from Thornny on 7:11 pm on Oct. 15, 2017
Yes we did some chat online face-to-face. But not for very long maybe 20 minutes. She's quite a funny girl. But again like you said maybe it's just what I want to hear.
Its important to chat face to face to know she is real but you can also find out bits of info. Like how she lives. You seem to like her but just remember thats what she wants and it does not have to be bad its just fact.

The way a girl chats to you will tell her experience with foreigners for instance. Like if she says I been on here a week and the chat does not match that.
Had a look at this site and not my cup of tea. There is a bit of information though like when the account was opened.

The problem with being married and meeting a nice one is what you intend to do. I met a women back in 2005 she knew im married but through perseverence I f***ed her at her room after 2nd date. She broke off because im married but we kept contact for many years. We also chat longer than 2 weeks before we met and oh yes there was a click and she never asked for money and would be offended if I gave it. A very proud women but timing is everything and I was married with a young son.

The whores you mainly forget but a nice girl is tougher to let go. Thats why I preferred sex workers when I was still married.It keeps things simple. You only have to worry the price and how well she wil perform.

Thats what I mean by complicated and you have no idea which way it will go. Picking number 301 and deciding price after drinks and chat is far safer and easier. If its companionship you want you can buy that too bg or escort.


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Posted on: 1:28 am on Oct. 15, 2017
Thornny
well she said that she will only meet somebody if it has a good feeling. But that's what she says. I actually have no idea. Like you guys have said whatever they say could be total b*******. She only likes to make jokes. I feel she's a little different than most girls that I've talked to only that she is more open-minded about different people and what they want. Respect everybody. I don't know but again it's what she says so I have no idea. But you are right being married it's very difficult to control the emotion in the feeling. That could cause a problem later.

I don't plan to marry this girl, she knows that, and I don't plan to fall in love with her either. I have no idea why I keep going for the non-WGs.. Guilt about doing prostitutes? I don't know... Maybe I feel safer for sex...

I texted her to make sure she was really not looking for a relationship and now she says we don't need to meet if I am afraid I will hurt her.. I am not sure where this will go now. As much as I appreciate all the knowledge on here sometimes I look at it too deep and end up sending another text to verify something and that results in something not so good. I am not sure if we will meet now or not even though I told her it is ok we can... We'll see. If not, I have plenty of contacts for freelancers plus all the other info on where to pick up girls and the massage places, so... I had planned to go to a massage place first and then meet this girl at night, but if it turns out she no shows or now doesn't want to meet, I'll contact one of the freelance girls for an overnight if we get along well in the first hour.


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Posted on: 2:25 am on Oct. 15, 2017
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Quote: from Thornny on 6:25 pm on Oct. 15, 2017

I don't plan to marry this girl, she knows that, and I don't plan to fall in love with her either. I have no idea why I keep going for the non-WGs.. Guilt
Like CC says its sometimes easier for new guys to stick with whores and f*** them off quick

You might not plan on falling in love....but shit happens.

Experience enoculates against casual "" I think this ones different " syndrome.


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Posted on: 6:17 am on Oct. 15, 2017
Thornny
Yeah I know this one is different syndrome issues, I know... I had feelings for the one last year also, still think about her, but as she has not contacted me I assume she was more interested in having a boyfriend someone to take care of her. She doesn't contact me, so... I gave up. Her FB page seems to indicated she is not back in the adult scene so it seems I was at least 1/2 right about her trying to straighten out her life.

This new one, I have no idea.. And yes, easier for WGs I know. Pay, they leave, no drama. I won't fall in love with this girl. She is easy to talk to, funny, and quite honest about everything, a good friend hopefully even after this meeting. But that is if the meeting goes even close to as planned.

My biggest worry is being robbed or drugged. I will ask her to leave her ID at the desk. But beyond that... lock stuff up and hope for the best.

She is still ok to meet, but she already suspects that I don't want to meet her because I keep asking her if she is ok to meet or not.. Are their certain questions I can ask to try to filter the lies from the truth? All I can see so far is that she gets quite pissed off when someone offers her money for sex. And she keeps saying she is not a setup, perhaps she means a cheater or whatever, that raises some red flags.. She says she also has a foreign friend who has a thai gf that is doing just what you guys are talking about here, the girl is poor and the guy stays with her and gives her money, she knows exactly what is going on, but the guy isn't listening... So, I don't know if it is her ploy to say, you know and I know this shit goes on, but I am not one of those type of girls, but actually I am... She's only been on TF for a month, seems somewhat more educated, always writes long messages, but yeah, I have no idea what sort she is..

I just know I won't be sending money, and if she asks for anything like this I will ask her to leave.


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Posted on: 6:24 am on Oct. 15, 2017
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Quote: from Thornny on 12:24 am on Oct. 16, 2017
Yeah I know this one is different syndrome issues, I know... I had feelings for the one last year also, still think about her, but as she has not contacted me I assume she was more interested in having a boyfriend someone to take care of her. She doesn't contact me, so... I gave up. Her FB page seems to indicated she is not back in the adult scene so it seems I was at least 1/2 right about her trying to straighten out her life.



Why are you so afraid working girls will give you a disease. Where did you get this from ? Based on western prostitution ?propoganda. Actually a working girl needs her pussy clean to earn. Thai girls wash themselves and its fairly easy to check if you are sober. So stop worry about that and guilt ? about what ? drop that forget the feminist propoganda.

So you met one and have ' feelings' and this one you selected with the same criteria but your not 'planning to fall in love'. Are you planning to divorce ? The p4p in Thailand is not like in the west its a fantasy you play your part pay the money she delivers all are happy.

But what you are trying to do is a recepy for disaster. How you know she does not have several FB pages and that this one is especially for you. All you say is assume you assume this or you assume that lol.
She does not contact you no of course not. Her fb page seems to indicate what she wants you to think.

WGs are the way to go for newbie and especially married men.
Why because if you stay away from freelancer stick to barfine at least then you wont get drugged pick up a disease and she will be gone without incident that might get back to your wife.

But it seems you are tell yourself all this because secretly you are looking for more than just f***. THe WG s are no good so I will hook up with a 'normal' girl ? So what does she want ? to meet you for what to not get involved ? She is onTF and more site and your the only guy she chat to. She is selective and only sees guys she like even married and can lead nowhere oh yer right.

If she is really what she says she is then she is looking for a relationship because that age no marry kids is already old in los. Thai men want young or never married. The older never married and divorced with kids market themselves for farang.

I noticed in few minutes on TF that a lot of women are say never married no kids and are member for years. It means their criteria are to high or they are fake.

I have pick up girls online I just go to skype and show my cock then I want f*** im direct and they often want sex.But they are also look for something more or at least some. Do you want that same the one you dont contact but cannot forget her ?

My god man drop all this afraidness the girls will smell that at 200 metres and see you coming. Forget all the things you were taught in the west.You are in charge and you take control. If you dont better stay at home.

You can chat this girl if that float your boat but please look up some bar or masage or escort or Agogo or something and just do it.
You wont get robbed or catch a disease. But you need to loose the im afraid lark, drop it man up and enjoy yourself.

You seem to be telling yourself this because you want an emotional connection. But be carefull what you wish for. How will you do manage that when married ? A whore is far less complicated and discreet. She wont send pics or stuff to your wife for instance. Although I found many accepting I was married and looking for the mia noi position.

Oh yes totally acceptable and the goal for many be the minor wife.
Maybe thats why she never married maybe she was someones mia noi you never know.
Oh but maybe she is a closet virgin waiting for you to come along.
Dont be so naieve and stop being afraid, man up.


She has only been on TF a month ? did you check ? she like talk about other lady on TF but where she get the idea in the first place to join ? Already she talk of money and you will never do that no !!. Famous last words you are already being played. Nothing wrong with that my girlfriends try with me. Just be a better player take another girl its what I do.


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Posted on: 9:35 am on Oct. 15, 2017
cheapcharlie

Quote: from Thornny on 12:24 am on Oct. 16, 2017
She says she also has a foreign friend who has a thai gf that is doing just what you guys are talking about here, the girl is poor and the guy stays with her and gives her money, she knows exactly what is going on, but the guy isn't listening... So, I don't know if it is her ploy to say, you know and I know this shit goes on, but I am not one of those type of girls, but actually I am...



Read this back again what do you really think ? Come on your not that naieve. The other thai girl is poor ? and she told you she is not has many jobs and well off. Welcome to the Thailand class system looking down and saving face. Roughly translated means this girl is poor but she is not because she is hi so...She will just get her hand in your pocket later on and for far more than basic living costs lol.

She has a foreign friend roughly translates to another john who is send money to a poor thai girl when she really wants he send to her.

You come across as naieve and interesting enough to meet,married so must have wealth. Game on. Oh yes chat is good laugh with her but your basically confirming she agree all the things you believe which is not hard. I imagine you told her straight up. These women are trained in this whether WG or not. Of course your girl may be different.
But I may also be rich if all the numbers come up next week.


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Posted on: 10:00 am on Oct. 15, 2017
Thornny
Not that afraid. And yes I like the emotional connection, but I know it can lead to a lot of problems.. Holiday girl friend things. Yeah I know.. I am being stupid...

And actually the more I sleep with prostitutes I also understand that they have to be clean or they lose their job. At least for most.

I have gone to fishbowls before, it is fun, also had girls come to my room, but not for the whole night. I guess for me I do like the company at night. But as you said, bar fine them maybe less risk. I have found multiple freelancers on TF. Some are quite good looking if their profiles are accurate. Some don't allow DATY though.

And yeah I know the picture problem, best not to let them take photos at all if can avoid.

The first girl has 3 FB accounts that I am aware of, and only updates one. She has no idea that I am looking at any of them. Yeah I do miss her, but I know it is best not to see her again. You're probably right, secretly telling myself I want more, but I know I can't...

Ok, so what do you suggest I tell this one in Bangkok? I don't want to lose her as a friend as I do think she could be kinda cool, but perhaps I need to chat with her longer before meeting. If she is a player like you said then she already can smell my fear. She already knows my hotel and time... Should I just tell her I have second thoughts? Based on our discussions already I predict she might get mad... If she is really a normal girl that is...

I had planned to go to 1O2 when I arrive and then do some other things and then try to get another girl at night.


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Posted on: 10:04 am on Oct. 15, 2017
     

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