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Quote: from cannibal on 10:55 pm on April 13, 2005
But the prices that the girls charge are OUTRAGEOUS if you compare them to prices in other markets, or to what they would expect to earn in their home countries.... --or more than most of them could earn in a month in their native countries.
(I know....just wishful thinking). 200 ST or 400 LT is more than enough to earn a living for these girls-- and adds up to WAY more than most white-collar employees earn in Dubai.
You're comparing apples to oranges, to use the ole cliche. It's what the market price is HERE, regardless of how much it costs you elsewhere. Hell, if I buy a box of Frosty flakes at Spineys, then compare it to the home price, I'd be sick. So, I don't. I just decide that it's important to me to have some Frosty flakes for breakfast, so indulge. They might be cheaper in BKK, or elsewhere, but, I'm HERE NOW.
As to what one can earn in their home country: I've not met an expat YET who came here for a cut in salary. Certainly I know if I COULD get an increase in salary, I would NOT say, "No thank you, what you pay me now is enough." You expect the wg's to be different?
As to what a white collar employee earns in Dubai, or
Quote: from elgator on 1:47 pm on April 21, 2005
... and she sports fancy jewellery on top of diamond studded Omega watch among other accesories + sending money home on regular basis.... I begun to find it a lil odd when they complain about not making enough in DXB while mosta them are way better off than most professionals.
You ever seen their barracks living arrangements? Certainly some do have nice apartments shared with one or two, but a majority do not. I know I wouldn't live like that. You have health care? Job security? How many working years do you have? Working on a non-working visa, subject to police arrest and deportation at any time? Working in a criminal enterprise? How much did you pay for your work visa? What are your working conditions like? What are your legal rights if your employer doesn't pay? Having troubles with someone - can you go to the police for help? Is your family here or back home, and is that by choice or necessity?
And, so she spends some money on jewellery... at least that's permanent, and the watch does tell time. How many times have you gone out and bought something you REALLY didn't need when you were feeling a bit down? What do you get for your disposable income when you indulge in P4P? Couple hours of pleasure and make-believe? Now THAT'S frivolous.
Now, I'm not saying accept any price increase. I just say "No thank you", and move on. But I certainly don't slam them for trying to extract as much as possible from the market.
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Posted on: 6:22 am on April 21, 2005
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elgator
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Quote: from jisman on 9:35 pm on April 7, 2005
Elgator,I was in the regular commercial wing of the Millenium.
Thxs mate.... thot you were too. As expected, I finally learnt it the hard way 2 nites ago. We (me and my latest oriental regular) were so close..... already at the elevator when the stern looking Central Asian security guard approached and brought down the bad tidings. I was more or less prepared for it somehow hence plan B. Later ended up in one grotty hotel in Deira as I was too tired n beat to hunt for GF hotel at 2 am.
So, Millinium aiport hotel (the EK wing) is NoT GF. You could be lucky in the day time though....
-Elgator
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Posted on: 6:41 am on April 21, 2005
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Quote: from cannibal on 10:55 pm on April 13, 2005
But the prices that the girls charge are OUTRAGEOUS
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I agree with 11Bravo's detailed reply on this one.
Other things to consider are, how much does she pocket and how much goes to shady persons in the back ground. Some CIS can be here for months paying off their "Ballance" before they start making for their selves.
Plus it's dangerous, arrest, imprisonment and deportation are possible and not all punters are going to be nice guys.
So in conclusion, don't pay inflated prices but don't assume it's easy money for the girls either.
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Posted on: 6:49 am on April 21, 2005
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elgator
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11B, slamming was the last thing on my mind. I'm more or less aware about the living conditions n consequences that you mentioned but I was merely trying to make some kind of comparison between Cyclone class ladies who whine etc. alot and those of the lesser gods who don't. That's all.
Btw, she gladly accepted my cheap Charlie appareciation fees knowing I'd see her again next time around.
Elgator
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Posted on: 6:57 am on April 21, 2005
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11bravo
JSF, you did not miss anything.
As I said in a previous post. York has become sort of hit and miss nowadays. Pity it was a great place to go to, especially since it is still one of the places which allows you in without an entrance charge provided you come in early enough (before 8:30 pm)
I have not been to any of the pubs for nearly two weeks now. Was thinking of going over on Sunday, dropped the idea because did not have any company and I hate to drink alone.
Might just pop in later tonight, though not yet sure whether I go to the York or perhaps to the Rockefellas. The last time I went to the Rockefellas was with Sporadic more than a month back. Enjoyed that outing and the talent was definitely better then the York.
Sporadic
JSF,
Being the complete hard-ass that I am (;) ) I doubt F has any complaints about what I pay her ladies.
For that matter, neither do I.
I am sure F has no complaints. In fact she was asking me yesterday when you would be back in town. 
Looking forward to hooking up with a couple of fellow forum members who are both arriving on Saturday. Should be fun. When fellow forum members are around I indulge a little more then usual. Can’t explain it but I guess their enthusiasm gets to me.
Justfun
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Posted on: 7:34 am on April 21, 2005
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11bravo
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Quote: from elgator on 2:51 pm on April 21, 2005
I was merely trying to make some kind of comparison between Cyclone class ladies who whine etc. alot and those of the lesser gods who don't.
Btw, she gladly accepted my cheap Charlie appareciation fees knowing I'd see her again next time around.
Maybe I've been lucky, but I've never had a girl really whine to me (that's for sure a guarantee of a 1-time) ; certainly they might complain about "no good customers...", but then, they are free to accept my offer or not.
Repeat business is certainly a parameter in the go/no-go decision. But even then...
I'm VERY aware of the impact of increased prices. I just lost a regular who I pulled EVERY week for 4/5 months. 500 dhs, all profit (I reimbursed her for the taxi, she didn't have to pay any entrance fee). But then the excuses "period, meet friend at airport", etc. I prefer the honest approach: "I can do better". Which is the case. Girl builds up a clientele; only so many weekend nights in a week.
For me, just means there's a new opening in the pitching rotation. That's what I like about a free market. And what I like about Dubai and the bars: always the promise of an enchanting evening whether it comes to fruition or not. The search is half the fun.
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Posted on: 8:09 am on April 21, 2005
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Quote: from 11bravo on 8:03 pm on April 21, 2005
".... meet friend at the airport",
Deja Vu...LOL!!
well you're right.... it's free market force. Its only logical for them to go for sailors who would pay Dhs 700 for 10 mins. ST and hurry back to the bars to hit the bottles instead of you and me. Mongers' fair share n taste of capitalism. so, take it or leave it.
-Elgator
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Posted on: 8:36 am on April 21, 2005
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Elgator
and she sports fancy jewellery on top of diamond studded Omega watch among other accesories
Ever been to Al Karama mate? I can get you a "gold Patek Phillipe" for 100dhs!
About the pricing, all of you make good points.
Bravo, you are tainted by your Asian studies specialty. I have never heard a CIS talk about "no good customers." Just not done. You have been spoiled by Chinese pragmatism my friend. Do not expect straight answers from any other demographic.
Our friend the A-list provided me with a serious post-grad education into how things work, CIS girls in the same league would never, NEVER open up like this. Man, I miss her.
Something is worth exactly what someone will pay you for it. In my case, if I find a 200dh ST girl, and pay her (after, obviously) a considerable sum above that amount, it was of my own choice.
I also reap the benefits.
Eg. When I first met "L", she thought I was a generous man, and treated me accordingly (actually, she was probably nice from the beginning thanks to JSF!) but this last visit, I did not bother to call. She would not have been impressed with my offer, nor I hers. She (and E) might have responded out of a sense of loyalty, but she is now out of my pricing window.
Such is life.
At the end of the day, we are not talking about the staples of life here gents, but extras.
Cheers,
Sporadic
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Posted on: 10:15 am on April 21, 2005
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Thursday Night Madness
I had drinking night last night with a couple of mates. Started out at Jockeys, just before 9 it was very lively with some good talent in amongst the old faces. Smiler stopped by and was disappointed I didn’t want to go with her then.
“Blue Top”, the Kazakh who normally frequents the York came in with a guy in tow. She was the subject of a couple of favorable FR’s about a month ago from me & Badass and there were some appreciative remarks for JSF. She was looking very sexy in tight but elegant black dress as opposed to the very raunchy boots, mini, cleavage ensemble that attracted me last time. (Mental note made to call her next week)
Next stop Rockefellers (50 Dhs – 1 drink). There was certainly plenty of quality on offer. I had a short chat with a new girl from Uzbekistan, very pretty but poor English. Plenty of possibles if I had been looking to pull.
By about 1 AM it’s was too crowded to be comfortable, drink fueled we decided to check out the York, Outside it is madness with around 30 SW hanging around out side. No charge including my Indian mate. He says he never gets charged anyway.
Inside it’s packed, very high male to female ratio. Saw last weeks disaster walking around, did not say hello. An Arfo claiming to be half Belgian and half Mauritius latched onto me and was only shaken off by being down right rude. Even then she still kept coming back. This left me in a bad mood and I was a bit off handed with another African who tried to talk to me, a bit later she came up an reminded me we had had a chat and drink about a week ago. I then recognised her (she looked quite different with a different hair style) I made my apologies. I felt quite bad about this because she was a very pleasant girl, so different to the stereotypical African hooker. (not on my to do list however)
I went home alone around 2 AM, SW by the dozen outside the York but the Shoe Market and Al Ain car parks were quiet.
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Posted on: 1:43 am on April 22, 2005
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Last night went out around 8 pm, debating on the merits of popping into the York for a drink or two or calling up a non forum friend, a punter who has not yet joined this forum, and passing the time of the day with him. The thought of having drinks in the York alone put me off so called up my friend. He was doing absolutely nothing. Went over and picked him up. We drove around for a bit then decided to have a drink. Renaissance hotel loomed just ahead and I deftly pulled my car into an open parking spot. Went to the Harry’s place and ordered my bitter.
Not too much p4p talent available at this place at that time, around 9 pm. There was this older CIS sitting alone sipping beer through a straw, a sure sign she was a WG. Not a bad looker, nice shape although the face did nothing for me. Maybe around 30 years old in the dim light.
Sat talking with my buddy and then he asked me if we could go over to F’s place. I was not actually planning on going there but thought why the heck not? Called F and told her we were on the way. She was out shopping or something but the 3 ladies were home. Natasha latched on to me and she is so sweet that I did not have a heart to tell her that I was rather thinking of taking Sab. But when we entered Sab came out of the bathroom completely naked and ran into one of the bedrooms to put some clothes on. That means she had been entertaining and I hate sloppy seconds. I grabbed Sab playfully and she giggled and rushed into the bedroom. Came out after a couple of minutes in hot pants and a t-shirt and gave me a kiss and sat down next to me.
Natasha clung to me a bit tighter after that Anyway no fear of her losing out. As I mentioned I hate sloppy seconds. Although in a working house maybe all the girls had finished entertaining just before we arrived. But at least I did not see any evidence of that on the other girls. That is good enough for me.
Went with Natasha and it was wonderful as usual. She gets better and better and her BBBJ has me gritting my teeth in ecstasy every time. This makes her very happy. She loves to make me squirm. Sadist!!! I give back as good as I get and make her squirm with DATY. She finally pleaded with me to stop. She was breathless and claimed she came twice and could not take anymore. The finger in the right spot confirmed what she said.
Came out and sat next to Sab and talked with her for a while. Asked her when she was going to take me. She laughed at that. She was game and wanted to take me immediately but I promised her I would coming running some other day when she called. Maybe she will call me tomorrow. Fridays are no good for me she knows that.
A couple of forum buddies arriving tomorrow so I should have a couple of busy days. Looking forward to it.
Just fun
11bravo. Thanks for the sms and the pm. Unfortunately did not see the pm until now and was already at F's house when the sms arrived.
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Posted on: 5:00 am on April 22, 2005
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