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Quote: from 11bravo on 3:59 pm on June 5, 2005
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Closing factoid: Song "Zombie" by Cranberries, as done by:- band at 1st floor York: good
- band at ground floor York (Music Box) : better - the female backup singers, down on hands and knees, doggie style,...
- band at Seaview: best; not erotic like Music Box, but that female bass player can really play, sing, and put on a show in her own way
Also - Check out the South African band in Rocafellas they do a pretty good rendition, however avoid the band in the small bar the other end of the Imperial from staying alive, there versions was poor (infact avoid that bar all together!)
Will have to get together with you guys sometime, we can't go on not meeting like this.
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 8:11 am on June 5, 2005
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BANGERSnMASH
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Hi Y'all,
Well finally met 11bravo, JSF and Worf....it was indeed a pleasure meeting you guys. Finally. the names have faces to match.
There is so much to write about, and so little time. I'm in an internet cafe across the corner from Regal Plaza, and have to get back to the hotel in about 15 minutes.
Arrived Thursday (early morning), managed to make it to the hotel by 1.45 am. Straight to York, where the guy at reception asked for the usual AED 50. Told him it was 2.00 am, you gotta be kidding....he wasn't. Went to the bar instead and had a couple of drinks, one of the ladies in the bar came sat next to me and tried some marketing, but by this time all I wanted was a drink....it was too late in the night for a quickie or an all-nighter. 11bravo was right, better to start fresh in the morning.
Part of Thursday anf Friday nights were spent with two chinese, one at an MP and the other from the Shoemart car park area. The MP was worth it, wonderful long massage, but the girl from the carpark (Li Li), was basically a wham bang thank you maam affair.
On Saturday managed to log on. Read Worf and JSF's messages about hooking-up for a drink at the York at 9.00 pm. This was one 'meeting' not to be missed, cancelled a prior arrangement with a 'relative' who lives in Dubai and went over to the York. 11bravo and JSF have already mentioned the get-together in their posts, so will not repeat. Spent some time with them till about 10.30 pm, after which I went back to my hotel room to keep an appointment with a CIS lady. She arrived promptly, we sat and chatted for a while and then down to business. Ordered some food from room service and had a second shot at about 2.00 am. By this time, I was totally and absolutel spent....so I offered to let her go early, which she accepted. Although I had booked an all-nighter, somehow with all the activity over the past couple of days, didn't really want her all night just for a final shot in the morning.
The CIS....M, was a really friendly girl, although she has a scar in a rather prominent place, which was a bit off-putting at first....then I thought about the couple of scars on my neck, and decided to work round our mutual shortcomings. What can I say, in 30 years of mongering in several different continents, I have never had a better F**K in my life. Talk about GFE, sweet passionate kissing, bbbj, her movements, her style.......aargh!, I'm still shell-shocked. And JSF told me that there at least 2 or 3 CIS better her!!!!! NOT POSSIBLE.
Anyway, gotta go back to the hotel. More later.
Cheers
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Bangkok Women : Meet Sensual Bangkok Women
Posted on: 10:00 am on June 5, 2005
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Sporadic
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BnM
And JSF told me that there at least 2 or 3 CIS better her!!!!! NOT POSSIBLE.
My good man, have you no faith? Obviously, personal chemistry and preferences will play a part, but there is a real chance that JSF was being quite conservative about only 2 or 3 being better.
Tag Louisa, F and possibly N and then tell me impossible.
I would just love to see your face after a round with L or F.
No BS, no baiting. As our global friends from Nike say, just do it!
Cheers,
Sporadic
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 3:33 pm on June 5, 2005
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FINALLY INTERNET ACCESS. MAN-O-MAN what can I say," Bravo, JSF, Bnd, you guys are the best. Bravo thanks for the short tour around Dubai.
Doing my own exploration two nights hanging around the York,Rockfellas, Rumors, Jockeys, TGIT's all with walking distance. Hanging in the area to 4:00am, playing around with the chinese hookers on the street.
First night heading home Taxi got into an accident,front end was totaled. Sitting in the back seat everything was in slow motion as I saw it coming. Glad I didn't have a working girl with me in the taxi. Police were called and the driver was on his mobile, while the other driver made an illegal U-turn right in front of us.
Not capable yet of tasting the fine beauties still dealing with the 2 girlfriends in the Sharajah area. As a result of not having my own place and going back and forth to their places. Distance, traffic and taxis being a pain in the ass, I will be hitting the MP and that sweet chinese that Bravo introduced me to at the York.
Her name aka. Jimmy she Rub my dick at the table in the middle of York. Got my attention, lolol even while she was playing with my little squeeze ball. She kept grabbing my balls and rubbing me at the table.. LOLOL
Damm Bravo is the expert, those Africans ATTACK ME EVERYWHERE I WENT. From trying to stick their finger in my ass as I walk by, to grabbing my monster on the floor.
Very different the clubs in the area, Rockfellas free, York free before 9 ( go in get your hand stamp to return
later on when the action starts), Rumors paid the 50 dhrs only one drink. Jockeys free, it's funny all the bouncers think I am US navy. Damm when I get home have to tell those guys to STOP RUINING THE MARKET. Paying $200--$500 US dollars for A HOUR..... I listened to the a deal with a Navy guy and a Chinese, he looked stave and would paid anything.
Ok I'll let you know how Jimmy is and when I get time. I got to head to Cyclone. 2nd girlfriend wants to hang out dancing ( darn trying not to exaust my funds, like on my last trip). Dubai is nice, but airfare, hotel stay (thank goodness I don't have to worry about that) and mongering, too much runs about $2000.--$3000. us dollars. Maybe I'll consider Bangok next time. I love that oriental taste anyway.....
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Sexy Bangkok Girls
Posted on: 8:20 pm on June 5, 2005
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Quote: from 11bravo on 3:59 pm on June 5, 2005
The death of dxb P4P has been greatly exaggerated
I would agree that Dubai is not a P4P destination in the same way as Bangkok, prices, for everything, are way to high, but it is close for a lot of people in the Gulf region, a weekend trip is possible and for a lot of people time is as valuable. Then there are those of us who's work brings us here. Others may have the opportunity to stop over to break a long east-west journey.
Dubai offers some unique attractions not least the wide ethnic variety of girls available, and for me the club scene. I recently had an evening to kill in London, I had done a little research on the Internet and found a site offering Oriental "escorts" pictures of very attractive girls with professionally written blurb, telephone numbers, in call and out call options - prices around triple that I would expect to spend in Dubai for ST for just an hour. In the end I decided against it, not for the cash but because I did not fancy the method, make a call, travel to the location, then possibly find she's not your type after all. Too much hassle, so much nicer to pick up in the bar, half the fun is in the selection and "chase". Often fun even if you leave alone. And unlike one member who posted recently I quite enjoy the taxi ride, it's the element of anticipation, I accept there is an element of risk. One can mitigate the risk of course by appropriate behaviour.
Accommodation is the killer in Dubai and this issue may the one that will strangle the P4P business in the future. I would like more LT sessions in better environments but add the cost of a hotel and it starts to get very expensive. I have been lucky in so much as I have only once had another couple a couple of curtains away. Most of time other people may have been in the flat but the room was private, in one place I was introduced to a Turkish lady's mother, weird, but it makes a good story. Yes your options are limited if you do not have GF accommodation but possibilities still exist.
For me the MP scene holds less appeal.I am sure there is good service to be had but it seems like a lot of trouble to go through for ME. Also I would be less happy paying anyone but the girl herself. Ok I am not naive enough to think that somebody may not be creaming off something from the money she gets in some way but it at least keeps the transaction at a personnel level, and only the two of us know what was paid.
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 11:20 pm on June 5, 2005
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Quote: from BANGERSnMASH on 10:12 pm on June 5, 2005
And JSF told me that there at least 2 or 3 CIS better her!!!!! NOT POSSIBLE.
To be honest Sporadic is right. I was being a bit conservative. What I like and what the other person likes could be two different things. But with 2 or 3 of the ladies, that I know, there can be no debate. They are the best. L and F are the tops. So far I have not heard one person say that they did not get their money’s worth with either of these two. There are a lot of girls who I would not hesitate to include in my list. N and Sab from F’s place, Jameela, Fatima, Nadia and Irina from E’s place, M and Dar from L’s new hideout (Yes L is back in action and got in touch with me recently). Anyone who has E’s number don’t tell E that you know L is back. Just a request.
Then of course the ladies from the Indian house. Christina the filipina, Layla, Somayaa the turk, and the Iranian babe Amina. All of them were great too. But as I said what I like and what you like maybe completely different things. So I usually only recommend F and L because they are the best.
There are two Chinese at the York who are great too. One I have already been with and the other is going to get a call soon. By the way Marina, the tall blonde CIS with a stacked body, is back. She is one of the itches that I am still trying to scratch. But from reports of the guys who have been with her it seems she has no room of her own and she avoids ST. And she does not budge below 800 dhs for the LT.
Regarding Worf. The guy is awesome. Loved the way he handles himself. The Africans were falling all over him. One of them even took up his dare and danced with him just to show him she was good. And she was a lovely young lady who, if she were not an African, (I have nothing against Africans but the ones in dubai seem to have got a reputation for ripping guys off) would be on my to-do-list. By the way I have a number of another African who Chris611 thought is great. Haven’t seen her for a couple of weeks but if I do I might just ask her if she has a place of her own.
BangersnMash: Tried your hotel room today to see if you would like to hook up later tonight. Was told you have checked out. Wasn’t sure of your itinerary and I probably got the dates mixed up. Anyway look forward to seeing you again the next time you are in town.
Tonight planning to hook up with Superman at one of the clubs. Been a while since I saw him. Always enjoy an outing with him. He has an eye for the good lookers and his BFE technique has most of the ladies fawning over him after they have been with him.
Will post about tonight's outing. Not going to York tonight as both of us looking for a change of pace. So might pop in to the Staying alive or the Rockefellas. Let's see how it goes.
Justfun
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Bangkok Women : Meet Beautiful Thai Girls
Posted on: 8:41 am on June 6, 2005
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Quote: from BANGERSnMASH on 6:12 pm on June 5, 2005
... and the other from the Shoemart car park area.... but the girl from the carpark... was basically a wham bang thank you maam affair.
You didn't specify what you paid...
The car park girls are geared toward quick service, given their usual clientele, and the environment where they operate. I've found 200 dhs for 2 shots, massage in between, 1.5-2 hours, reasonable, especially if it's early. If it's prime time, they are hesitant to travel outside immediate area, preferring their "house" (closer) as they want minimal travel time, and they are very aware of security, again given their normal clientele. Most street girls are those who do not want to invest the 50 dhs entrance fee for a bar as they're not sure of a customer and so covering that business cost. It USED TO BE (not so sure now) that you could, depending on the hour, find some girls who would later be/had been seen in York or Imperial. For after hours, like myself at the end of the day, I'm thinking they just want to finish up the job at hand and go home.
I've had some very nice experiences with street ladies, but you do have to be careful. I'd be especially careful with LT: Pay Before is the norm, and there is little hope/experience with generating repeat business. Of my last 2 cases of LT becomes ST, 1 was from Cyclone, 1 from the street. If interested in LT, I'd suggest the "Pay Before ST, with LT option Pay After" approach. And, as you mentioned, negotiations between you and the girl are almost always guaranteed to create a circle of lookie lous.
Quote: from WORF1972 on 4:32 am on June 6, 2005
...Sharajah area. As a result of not having my own place and going back and forth to their places. Distance, traffic and taxis being a pain in the ass
Like I said, having your own, centrally located place makes for a much different experience, better but more expensive (though being able to eliminate the "long range" taxi fares can subsidize the hotel price). Traffic can eat up a lot of time these days. Decent, GF, central, cheap locations difficult/impossible? to find.
...York free before 9 ( go in get your hand stamp to return later on when the action starts)...,
Good strategy. Myself, once I pick a bar, that's about it. Very rarely will I jump to another as I can just about always find someone of interest in any of the main P4P bars. I like to get there early and pull early, so LT really is LT. And more relaxing, with much cheaper drinks, at my place.
Exception is Jockey's; I'll stop there for a drink, 8:00, 8:30, just to scout out the early talent, before heading to York or Imperial after 9. As posted before, like us, girls, especially CIS, will find this place convenient to rendezvous before sortieing to the same bars. (This is getting more and more difficult with the traffic... roads still full before 9)
...it's funny all the bouncers think I am US navy. Damm when I get home have to tell those guys to STOP RUINING THE MARKET. Paying $200--$500 US dollars for A HOUR..... I listened to the a deal with a Navy guy and a Chinese, he looked stave and would paid anything.
Another good place to observe this is afternoon TGIT. I'm sure it's a gold rush for the WG's. I have mixed feelings. Sometimes, I'll give a guy a head's up, but if he's already in negotiations... I say more power TO HER. He's guaranteed a paycheck, plus benefits; she's not.
Dubai is nice, but airfare, hotel stay (thank goodness I don't have to worry about that) and mongering, too much runs about $2000.--$3000. us dollars. Maybe I'll consider Bangok next time. I love that oriental taste anyway.....
We agree, when you add in the overhead costs, if the company's not paying hotel/airfare/food...
Suggestion: If possible, go flat rate (if high), not actuals, for meals on your ER. Yes, dxb has some fantastic restaurants (with corresponding prices), and it is fun to visit them once or twice. But, for me, I'd rather have the shwarama lunch, mall's food court dinner, with the remainder of my meal allowance subsidizing my late night chinese take-away.
MY experience: BKK hotels are much cheaper, straightforward to get a very nice hotel at a decent rate ($35-$50 USD). Food cheaper/better. And P4P cheaper; figure 1 dhs = 10 baht; considering any kind of decent LT is 400 dhs here; at 4000 baht, you'd be beating them off with a stick. My approximation: dxb ST = bkk LT (200 dhs = 2000 baht).
What dxb does have going for it is the variety of selection of nationalities, shapes, sizes, colors. Great deal if you're on the company's credit card, not so good if it's your own card.
Quote: from Barcrawler on 7:32 am on June 6, 2005
I would agree that Dubai is not a P4P destination in the same way as Bangkok, prices, for everything, are way to high, but it is close for a lot of people in the Gulf region, a weekend trip is possible and for a lot of people time is as valuable. Then there are those of us who's work brings us here. Others may have the opportunity to stop over to break a long east-west journey. Dubai offers some unique attractions not least the wide ethnic variety of girls available, and for me the club scene.
All valid reasons for making a stop here.
Too much hassle, so much nicer to pick up in the bar, half the fun is in the selection and "chase". Often fun even if you leave alone. And unlike one member who posted recently I quite enjoy the taxi ride, it's the element of anticipation, I accept there is an element of risk. One can mitigate the risk of course by appropriate behaviour.
My sentiments exactly. The only sure thing is "Mother thumb and her 4 daughters". I do like the chase, and the anticipation. Half the fun is imagining what that body WILL look like [  ], and what the experience will actually be . As I've posted before, even if a bad experience, makes a good story the next week.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 8:56 am on June 6, 2005
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II have followed this board for the past 5 months and here's my Tupence worth of comments regarding p4p in Dubai.
Cost of a holiday in Dubai has gone up considerably in the past 5 years since I have been coming here. When I first came to Dubai in 2001, a typical holiday package for a 3* hotel, incl. Breakfast, was GBP£250. Today, this figure is GBP£449! According to the tour operators, the main reason for this is that Dubai is becoming more popular, esp. since the Tsunami. Whilst the costs of the flights have been stable, it is the accommodation costs that have spiralled upwards. Even with new hotels cropping up each year (majority of which sadly are 4 and 5 stars), there are not enough rooms to satisfy the tourists and depending on how you see it, either the hotels get greedy or they take advantage of excess demand and put up their rates.
Lack of Accom also means the rates the WGs, as well as other migrant workers, pay for their accom would be expected to go up (as pointed out regularly by the girls). This in turn has led to the girls increasing their charge-out rates.
Sadly in the UK, Dubai is losing out to resorts in the Med/Egypt, where costs have remained at the same level for the past few years.
Turning back to Dubai, it is therefore not surprising to note that the costs for seeing the girls have gone up considerably in the past few years.
This in itself does not spell the end of mongering in Dubai. Depending on where you come from, you may still find Dubai cheap. Coming from the UK, I still find Dubai relatively cheaper. Typical hourly rate charged by girls in the UK are £100~£150 (Dhs650~Dhs975).
When I first came to Dubai, I paid Dhs400 for a ST (**stani girl / Russian girl from Cyclone). When I returned in Jan 05, JSF introduced us to E and her Russia House. I was amazed to be quoted Dhs300 ST, to the extent I insisted on giving Nat a tip of 100. ST rates at Ramada Night Club/Cyclone were Dhs800.
For LT rates, in 2001 I paid Dhs 600. In 2005, I was quoted Dhs1,000+. Whilst the rate may have gone up, it is still cheaper than the UK, where overnights are rarely less than £500 (Dhs3,250), typically £700+.
Whilst there are cheaper destinations than Dubai (India and BKK being the main ones), I have not ventured further east than Dubai. Consequently, I always find myself comparing Dubai to the UK and Dubai always wins. Even if the ST/LT rates were to increase, say, to Dhs1,000/Dhs2,000, I would still come to Dubai for the p4p scene. There are few good reasons for this, IMHO:
1 The ethnic Variety in Dubai cannot be matched by any other place in the world. Having said that, I still fall for the Russian Girls or the **stanis girls. In five years, I have only taken a Chinese girl once.
2 The rates for a decent Indian girl in the UK range at £150~£250 ph. This is because there are not that many Western Asian girls working in the UK. Coming to Dubai gives you a wider choice, when compared to the UK, as well as cheaper.
3 Having made contacts with a few people on this board and the wsg forum, it is now possible to spend your entire trip in Dubai having a good time, rarely disappointing.
4 (My favourite) Dubai, when compared to such resorts as UK, as well as India and BKK, is relatively safer, form a punters point of view. In the UK, it is difficult to avoid pimps or drug dealing/taking girls.
On my first visit to Cyclone etc., I was amazed to find that none of the WGs had any pimps hovering over them (or at least not visible), there was no such thing as a Red Light District Area (commonly associated with high crimes, pimps, drug-lords etc). Even the Law enforcement is of low profile in Dubai, when compared to elsewhere.
In addition, when you left the premises with the girl, you could walk safely to your car, back to your hotel etc. without being bombarded by ANYONE. Even the girls, who themselves are on restricted/limited Visas, would rarely take the money off you and do a runner!!
In short, the chances of being ripped off / stripped and left naked in a park are very rare in Dubai (or at least I'm led to believe, lol).
5 With most of the WGs coming from poorer countries, the common belief (at least at most times with most punters) that if you provide a good service, you are likely to be rewarded with extras or repeat business, leads to most girls at least making an attempt to provide a decent service. Compare this to places like Amsterdam where most punters are treated as cash mugs. the chances of having a great GFE are much higher in Dubai than compared to some Western resorts such as London.
6 Finally, for someone whose visit to Dubai may consist of a few days, having the contacts of like minded people means that certain, if not all, pitfalls can be avoided, thereby making your short stay an enjoyable one. Each one of my visit has ended up better than the previous one, with the last one being the best as by then, I had made a few contacts. Sadly, due to time pressure, I was only able to buy JSF that promised drink.
From what I recall, 11B and Sporadic were out of town. Hopefully, by next visit, this circle of friends should expand considerably.
It is for these reasons that I still find Dubai attractive. Although I only come there once, maybe twice, a year, I still follow the forums for them with great interest. Being of British Asian Descendant, having spent my entire life in the UK and never having ventured further east than Dubai, perhaps I have been mesmerised by Dubai and its bright lights, lol. Until I venture further a field or Dubai Law changes drastically, I shall always have a soft spot for Dubai.
Ps Apologies for my rare posts. I find it incredibly difficult to write up reports, comments etc. when ones working life amounts to 80+ hours per week.
Enough ranting for now.
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Thai Girls : Meet Active Thai Girls
Posted on: 2:22 pm on June 6, 2005
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Quote: from BANGERSnMASH on 10:12 pm on June 5, 2005
And JSF told me that there at least 2 or 3 CIS better her!!!!! NOT POSSIBLE.
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I also agree with JSF and Sporadic.
I am one of the lucky club members which tried both of them (L one time and F five time...).
Difficult for me to believe that somebody better in bed than F exists.
This is my personal experience.
A question for those who tried F: do you agree?
If we had to make a Hit Parade, would you put her in pole position?
Red
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 4:19 am on June 7, 2005
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Quote: from Cool Tiger on 10:34 pm on June 6, 2005
in 2001, a typical holiday package for a 3* hotel, incl. Breakfast, was GBP£250. Today, this figure is GBP£449!
Even the Law enforcement is of low profile in Dubai, when compared to elsewhere.
When you look at the package prices from the UK and compare them to the cost of picking up a hotel locally they are good value, I have seen 4* hotels for UK 500 for 5 days and even 3 nights at the Burj Al Arab for UK 900, both prices including flights.
The Law enforcement may seem low key BUT when it does kick in it is anything but and you would want to be around if it goes wrong.
Certainly the SW outside the Al Ain Centre and the Shoe Mart mingling with the shoppers and their families would not be tolerated in most countries of the world. But you can get arrested for kissing in public.
There is tolerance but overstep the mark and you are in trouble. Descertion is the key. For ME the SW's are too public and too much of a risk, particularly in the early evening.
While on the subject of SW I noticed a group of 4 CIS patrolling the area around Golden Sands 3/5 last night, something I have not seen for a while. There were also several cars curb crawling. I saw them propositioned 3 times as I walked from the Ramada to GS
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 6:15 am on June 7, 2005
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