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Quim
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"Do you deserve a “nice” Thai woman?
I want to give you a little background before I launch myself onto my soapbox. I am a half Thai, half American 28-year-old female. I've grown up in five different countries including Thailand, but was raised primarily western. All of my family reside in Thailand, including my American father. I started reading Stickman’s website when I was researching teaching in Thailand, which is what I will be doing when I move there in two months with my farang boyfriend. I think it’s an informative, well-written site. Of course I’m by no means an expert, with only yearly trips to visit my family; which is the reason I am moving there to live permanently. Having said all that, I was browsing the posts from readers and was quite fascinated by the stories of farang men pathetically living in a self-imposed drama with the prostitution scene. I certainly don’t want to dismiss anyone’s personal pain or lump anyone into a particular category but I just felt like I had say something as I didn’t see any postings from women (I haven’t read the whole site yet Stick). I’ll probably have a lot more to say when I've been living in Thailand for an extensive period.
I think you receive that which you seek and which you aspire to be. If you are slithering around brothels looking for cheap sex or someone to stroke your ego, and you fall in love with a prostitute during the process, you got what you deserved. Men say they can’t find the “good” Thai women while they are on holiday. Well, what good woman wants a whoring, drunk loser? If you have so little self-esteem that you are easily suckered into believing you are a prostitute’s saviour and she pines for you since the night you paid her bar fine, you need to take a look at yourself. Maybe you deserve a whore for a wife. In many of the stories posted on the site, the men are also cheating, even the ones claiming to be in love with their teeruk bargirl. There was one in particular that struck me as interesting. He sought out a new bar girl as soon as he and his steady girl had had an argument. If you can’t keep your pants zipped long enough to get through an argument and make up, you have no business crying over a broken relationship.
Relationships are about commitment, love and trust, regardless of what country the woman is from. Relationships take work and you get what you give. Thai bargirls are not the magical solution to having to work at a commitment. Sure, a 20-year-old prostitute might be able to look at a fat, bald man in his fifties and tell him everything he wants to hear for a few weeks; but that doesn’t mean she’ll be licking his feet and fetching his beers and truly loving him for the next 20 years if he’s not kind or honest or whatever she’s looking for. Some men just want to pay for the prostitute rather than make the effort to clean themselves up on the inside (and in some cases on the outside). To the ones that enjoy what they are doing but still kind in their business transaction and not cheating on a wife or girlfriend from back home, good for you. To the ones that make it work with a prostitute, you’re lucky, few, and far between. To the ones that got screwed: “soam nam na.” To the ones that want more and feel like they deserve more, read on.
There are lots of wonderful Thai women who want farang husbands. Every time I am there on vacation and women find out I have a farang boyfriend and live in the west, they ask me to help them find a husband. These women aren’t hookers nor are they so very high class that you have to be very rich or handsome either. They are sweet everyday women that work in hair salons, restaurants, stores and travel agencies. When my mother is out with my father, she gets the same pleas from women to help them choose a farang husband. Farangs are more attractive to Thai women for a number of reasons, not just money. In general, farangs are better looking to Thai women as they are taller and larger in stature than Thai men. Farangs ensure the birth of a whiter child which is favoured in Thailand. Farangs are (sometimes) more faithful, kinder and gentler, as well as more focused on a career. People of either sex often seek out that which is a bit different from themselves as well. It might also help that Thai men are notoriously known as lazy cheating drunks. Perhaps because they are not expected to be able to control themselves this is an acceptable trend. Either way, this opens the door for a farang to look like a great catch.
If you’re looking for a nice lady, you might take heed of a few tips. First of all, it’s appalling for anyone to go to Thailand and only see Bangkok and/or Pattaya. These are basically known as whore hangouts. Why not take in some of the culture and go to Phuket or Chiangmai (a most excellent and exciting city). There’s prostitutes in those areas too if you absolutely can’t live without one. Get away from cities made popular for prostitution. If you want to meet someone who is not a prostitute, stop hanging out at bars. Although times are changing, “good” women don’t go to bars, don’t drink and don’t smoke. “Good” women are not prancing around in miniskirts and seven layers of makeup. Even though I am half American, I follow this belief when I am in Thailand so as not to dishonour my family. Thai women are not going to sleep with you easily unless they are prostitutes so don’t be aggressive and frighten them.
Thailand has so much to offer. Go scuba diving, trekking to see villages in the north, elephant trekking or rafting. You can even just walk around and meet people. You can meet women everywhere. Hell, even go have your hair washed in a salon, it'll be the best couple bucks you spend, you lay on a bed and they scrub your head for ages. Sure it’s girly, but there's a lot of women hanging out there too. Thai women are shy but very friendly. They enjoy the “good” farang. Dress neatly, run a comb through your hair once or twice, brush your teeth and smile often. Backpackers and sex tourists are disgusting to Thais and to pretty much everyone but themselves. Believe me, women can overlook your beer gut and comb over if you are genuine and kind, you don’t have to pay someone to pretend to like you. Leave Thailand with exciting stories you wont be ashamed to tell your family when you get home.
Anyway, I feel fortunate to be bringing my own farang boyfriend with me, as it doesn’t seem like there will be many nice ones already there.
Stickman says:
Very, very nice. For folks who want a nice girlfriend, this lady says it all."
http://www.stickmanbangkok.com/reader/reader220.html
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 10:16 am on Dec. 17, 2011
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CalEden
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Quim, your half Thai? 555! Interesting article.
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Bangkok Women : Meet Sensual Bangkok Women
Posted on: 11:08 am on Dec. 17, 2011
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kenneth
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There is a thread running on Thai Visa in response to this bird's rant. General consensus is that even though she is half Thai, she is still a typical clueless western woman.
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 5:43 pm on Dec. 17, 2011
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Quim
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Actually, I think she makes a couple of good points, even if she is naive and young. I don't think her perspective is so much a western woman's perspective, as it is a woman's.
One of the odd things is that she almost made me start to feel bad for "nice" girls in LOS. She makes some of them sound almost desperate to meet falangs. Ones that comb their hair back that is. Those poor girls. I say this since there are apparently so few good falangs in LOS. 
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Sexy Bangkok Girls
Posted on: 5:58 pm on Dec. 17, 2011
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bkkz
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Quote: from Quim on 11:16 pm on Dec. 17, 2011
Anyway, I feel fortunate to be bringing my own farang boyfriend with me, as it doesn’t seem like there will be many nice ones already there.
That will be her biggest mistake as she will soon discover.
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 8:02 pm on Dec. 17, 2011
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kenneth
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The old HR lady in my previous job was forever telling me to find nice farang men for the numerous girls in my office. I worked there for 5 years and eventually the more switched on girls married quite well off Thai men. None of them ever dated a farang guy. So many of these 'nice' Thai girls like the notion of a life with a farang man living in Thailand or abroad, but when it comes down to it, the reality is just too foreign for them and their families and they end up getting stitched up with some Thai bloke they hardly know, to avoid being told they are an old maid.
A couple of the Chinese-Thai girls in my current office state emphatically that they would never, ever marry a farang. One of these girls married a very effeminate Chinese-Thai boy that she basically bitch slaps around and is likely using a strap on and bending him over every night.
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Bangkok Women : Meet Beautiful Thai Girls
Posted on: 8:23 pm on Dec. 17, 2011
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The Machine
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She is not half Thai in her attitudes and upbringing she is 100 percent westernised.
So many western guys are so pussy whipped these days by western women it is just downright sad.
Why wouldnt a man want to shag young sexy women?
Personally I dont want to get into a relationship with a young women but I sure do want to shag them and why not?
Wait til her boyfriend sees what pussy is available in Thailand and see if he can keep his dick in his pants.
This one could turn out very interesting.
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Thai Girls : Meet Active Thai Girls
Posted on: 10:23 pm on Dec. 17, 2011
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Quim
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The following is a rant of my own that I posted on pattayatalk.com because of what I felt was a particularly negative, defensive reaction to her post. I wanted to strike a little more balance. Take it with a grain of salt.
"What she doesn't understand yet about the P$P scene in LOS is that most of the hard core mongers have accepted their lot as ugly, socially unacceptable chasers of whores, women who only care about our money, not the size of our gut. We mongers have no illusions about the low regard with which we are held by regular Thais and regular people everywhere in the world. But it is our choice. We chose to live the fantasy, because reality is so much less fulfilling.
She doesn't understand that mongers are NOT looking for "nice" girls. If we were, we certainly wouldn't be spending all our time in PTY/SC/Nana, etc. looking for temporary sexual fulfillment. We are addicts, who care only about having as much sex and fantasy GFE with as many P4P TGs as we have time and money for. We know we could never live this fantasy life with a "good" girl, in LOS or anywhere.
She speaks as if there is hope for most of us of breaking free from the intoxicating allure that is P4P in LOS. She seems to think that having once made the choice to become mongers, we still have a choice to leave and return to the light. Perhaps some of us do, and perhaps that is to whom she is speaking. But for most of us, we have no choice left. She doesn't understand this because she is still on the outside looking in. She is naive. She is young. She is a "nice" girl, uncorrupted by the P4P scene (for make no mistake, the TGs who participate become as corrupted as we are).
Most of us who have spent any time in LOS have been to the places she mentions. Most of us have even spent some time with "nice" TGs girls we have met, intentionally or accidentally. Many of us have been married to a nice girl, and some of us still are. But none of it makes any difference, because the addiction is too strong. That's what she doesn't get.
But we shouldn't be offended by or defensive about her description of us. Because what she is describing is the view of 99% of the world around us (including in LOS). And to be honest for a moment, it is pretty accurate. We ARE vile, despicable creatures slithering around in the fetid fluids of nasty sex (cum, sweat, saliva, blood, shit, and tears), and perfectly happy doing so. We are blatantly insulting to societal norms that suggest we should be working towards a meaningful, faithful relationship with one woman, whom we respect and who respects us regardless of how much money we pay her after having cum in her mouth or ass.
I suppose what is disturbing to some of us about what she says is that it reminds us, especially those of us in our middle ages, that there may come a day when chasing whores is no longer as fulfilling or realistic. And we may find ourselves all alone, having invested nothing in a "normal" life. But for most of us, it is still hard to imagine that day, and so we are still content to bypass the "nice" girls on the street as we head for our favorite bar or gogo or brothel to act out the fantasy all over again with a new temporary TGF/W."
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 1:48 am on Dec. 18, 2011
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Oz
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"I think it’s an informative, well-written site."
As as I read this line, you know she really has not got much idea!
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 6:57 pm on Dec. 18, 2011
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