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magnum
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The subject of Thai behaviors -- what they are thinking, what they are capable of doing, what they are likely to do -- frequently surfaces throughout the forum.
I am as guilty as anyone of stomping all over a thread, to wade into this confounding subject... probably more so than most, since I really have a need to understand Thais.
Perhaps amidst this dedicated thread, forum members who are all twisted-up by a Thai might find a pearl that helps; or, maybe a bit of accidental clarity found here might help a member avoid an evening of annoyance, or total abject fear... or, a lifetime of same.
None of us might know the pathology of the Thai mind, but amongst us collectively, we can probably figure out some of it.
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 10:46 pm on April 24, 2012
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magnum
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... Thais are not generally vocal about critisizing their own... there was a day not long ago when writers, as the BKK Post's op-ed social commentator Voranai were threatened for expressing uncomfortable truths about Thais.
... the Thai writer below is a new entry to that group... what differentiates him from Voranai, is that he writes exclusively for Thais in Thai... hope more will follow in both of their footsteps.
... while I do not argue his conclusion, he seems to select the least compelling of evidence out there... they will do, and I guess there are scores of scores of examples currently in the news at most anytime he could cite that carry the argument.
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Heading Towards Lawless Society?
Thai-ASEAN News Network
Editorial, Kom Chad Luek, April 23rd, 2012
Translated and rewritten by Wacharapol Isaranont
http://www.tannetwork.tv/tan/ViewData.aspx?DataID=1054398
On the past weekend, two separate murders took place late Saturday night and early Sunday morning (April 21-22), killing five people. In the first incident, a teenage motorcycle street racing gang threw a bomb at a group of people who complained about their behavior, causing two deaths. In the other incident, a man and two female club singers were shot dead in a drive-by shooting. There are stories about murders everyday in the news, most of which are caused by personal disputes and love affairs. These stories are often ignored or soon forgotten by the public.
The fact that arms and war weapons were used in many murder cases leads to the question of how can ordinary people gain access to heavy weaponry so easily as if Thailand was a lawless country.
It is commonly known that underground businesses such as drugs, arms trafficking and other illegal trades are all interconnected. The spread of war weapons among the ordinary people could be a result of growing drug dealing networks. As illicit drugs have become more accessible today than before, the same could happen in the case of arms. In today's society where people seem to value money more than moral principles, those shady businesses have expanded more rapidly because some people could do just anything to accumulate their wealth.
Meanwhile, a surprise raid on the Nakhon Si Thammarat Central Prison early Sunday morning (April 22) yielded a large haul of prohibited items including mobile phones, tablet computers and drugs. Drug and arms trade could never flourish without corruption by public officials. It might not be an exaggeration to say that they are partly funded by corrupt officials.
Corruption is a major factor that helps drugs and arms networks to germinate, take deep roots in and rapidly weaken Thai society. There is no quick fix to this problem. But if the government really intends to solve it, it must tackle the problem at its root cause, which is corruption.
Hopefully, we will hear less in the news about vicious killings involving the use of war weapons by ordinary people.
Please note that the views expressed in our "Analysis" segment are translated from local newspaper articles and do not reflect the views of the Thai-ASEAN News Network.
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Bangkok Women : Meet Sensual Bangkok Women
Posted on: 10:56 pm on April 24, 2012
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dirty guru
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Again another very interesting thread that raises the standards here.
I look forward to reading this one.
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 11:10 pm on April 24, 2012
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Kaymanx
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Quote: from magnum on 10:56 am on April 25, 2012
Re: that piece about "Heading Towards Lawless Society," frankly I don't see any difference between those murders, underground businesses and arms trafficking cited in Thailand and similar crimes in many countries round the world. Why would those incidents be reflective of decaying Thai cultural values alone ? A lot of people wonder at the USA's fierce protection of its gun laws in the face of insane and repeated killings on campuses and shopping malls. Now that's some "cultural value" to worry about. Motor cycle gang wars and club shootings happen in many countries. They reflect not any particular country's declining cultural values, rather a general decadence of human values worldwide.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Sexy Bangkok Girls
Posted on: 12:41 pm on April 25, 2012
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thailife
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Thai cultural values?
You mean like Thia's making their duaghters sell their pussy so the family can buy gold?
Yes, that is a value that is good... nothing like f***ing up a poor girls head so that mother can walk around with a 4 Baht gold necklace.....
But then again, since most Thais are mentally retarded form all the inbreeding I guess it doesn't matter.
I can say that I have f***ed at least 50 mentally retarded girls in my life.... and 12 mentally retarded ladyboys.
The other ones I would not call 'mentally retarded"... I would say they were 'touched'.....
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Bangkok Women : Meet Beautiful Thai Girls
Posted on: 8:03 pm on April 25, 2012
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dirty guru
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Well I have done ones that talk in the mirror....have pretend friends....watch cartoons that are very basic like "Thomas The Tanker " ( on Australia channel)
But 50 ?
Nope you win that one...unless I get bonus points for some of them also having an additional handicap like being Mute or dwarf....partially blind...missing fingers etc.
But back on thread.....
This thing about parents selling their daughters....
Well in the village I lived over a year I knew of maybe 15 girls that went off for the first time.
In the lead up to them leaving they were in some cases kept out of the sun and given some decent clothes and cash from a cow being sold.
Some were just as keen to go.
Its pretty boring upcountry.
Pretty girls were though pressured its true.
I did stay long enough to see the visiting ones and a few of the above return with gifts.
Two westerners brought to parade.
Some get lucky.
But point taken its a bit tough seeing a Family forced into greeting a 60 year old german who has been arse raping their daughter a third that age.
Still when the mother gets Gold and the Father gets his New Trial bike...they couldn't give a f*** and the neighbours come for the feast and free booze. *(including me)
I stuck 1000 baht in her little sisters hands and get her to swallow my load out the back near the wash house at 10pm.
Thai culture suits me just fine
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 8:20 pm on April 25, 2012
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snoops
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god bless mangum..........but he is preaching to the wrong choir. We all love thailand becoz its all screwed up!
Hot babes who are good at what they do.
Mr M would do better spending his time at the orpahnage rather then trying to save guys here.............lol! We are beyond saving. AND NO NOT ALL OF US WANT TO MARRY A VILLAGE ISSAN GIRL!
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Thai Girls : Meet Active Thai Girls
Posted on: 9:11 pm on April 25, 2012
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dirty guru
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Ok in fairness to Magnum let's list some values here.
I recall a school day when potential novice monks of the future would each kneel at his mothers feet wash them and then hug and show great out pouring of devotion and love.
It can be said Thais respect their parents a lot more than western children.
Thai people respect or hold to Buddhism, but it is worthy of note that in the cities of Thailand people very rarely go to the temple or make merit by tak bat. On special days temple attendance and merit making increase. The respect Thai people have for Buddhism is more one of words (NOMINAL) than one of actions (PRACTICE).
Money is the most important item and is the, desire of all Thai people. Honor and honesty used to be more important than money but today money and the resulting materialism are emphasized much more.
Money brings POWER, POSITION, STATUS (EYES AND FACE), LOVE, RESPECT, ETC.
Money is seen as honor and those who possess it are lifted up and praised. The value of a person is not measured by personal attributes or goodness but by his money.
"If you have money they call you younger brother; if you have gold they call you older brother."
"The poor have neither money nor friends (brothers)."
"Money is God."
Sucking up
Thai society 1ifts up those with power. No one is concerned about those who have no power. As a result, power becomes the goal of not a few people who want power over others.
Status is generally connected with government positions Thai people would rather work as a government employee than as businessman as it is easier to become a man with status (chao nai) this way. Becoming a "Chao Nai" is the popular pursuit of all Thai people as it is easy work, brings honor, gives power, and elevates one to a position where others give respect and homage. Parents encourage children to join government service in hopes they will get status.
Those with seniority refers to those with a high position who generally are older as well. They can also be those who have compiled much experience in which case they would tend to be older. Such people are always, catered to. One who is a lesser person should know his place and not disagree with the senior or even express an opinion in his presence. Certainly one should not argue ever with a superior!
They may appear pathetically to westerners.
Thai people believe educated people (those who have degrees) are those who know all things and are worthy of belief. Those who are educated have jobs which bring honor and have good status.
Thai people do not like to disagree because they "Krengchai" (are afraid of offending). As a result Thai people respond to requests by agreeing, but they agree many times only to relieve themselves of the immediate problem of responding in honesty. Whether they will actually do what they have agreed to is another matter.
Thai people are not inclined to taking risks. For example Thai people like stable jobs (government jobs) and do not like business jobs which demand risk. They do not like risking anything that does not give immediate results. This way of thinking comes from teaching given by parents who counsel children to became government workers. As a result most businessmen in Thailand are foreigners (Chinese and Japanese) because they have been taught to strive and be aggressive and not give up patience, whereas Thai people have not.
Thai people want to be rich but do not want to work and so gamble in order to make it rich with the 1east possible effort.
Cards etc
Thai people not only like to have fun during free time but also during work. As one saying goes: "Make work play and play work." This desire results in an attitude toward work which does not give work much importance. It also results in playing at work and not really working hard (aow ching aow chung). Thai people like to put money or effort in work that is fun rather than in work that may not be fun but is basic.
Pretending to have more than they do
Even the lowest Thai person feels he is as good as the next person. Thus everyone must prove he is as good as the next person by doing big things or by dressing up to fashion. Much money is spent on clothing to show one is as good as the next. The fear is that someone may look down on (doo took) them and this is not acceptable to the average Thai.
Ceremonies are needed for honor. They give position and help lift their organizers up so others can see them and give them recognition. The pursuit of "face and eyes" (mee na mee taa) is the reason for most ceremonies. If one does not have enough money one borrows to throw a ceremony.
Magic is another f***ed up trait
Shows lack of faith in selves because they place trust in spirits, thevadas, magical items, etc. Uncertainty and fear produce the need to find help elsewhere against bad luck
Thai people do not like doing things for the group but rather do things for self and the satisfaction of self. There is no concept of disciplining oneself for the sake of the majority. This can be seen in the way they drive cars - whatever is most convenient for oneself is OK, or in the conduct at parties or ceremonies -
As a saying goes, "Two tigers cannot live in the same cave." So in Thai society no one likes to admit anyone is as good or better. Criticism or fault finding is engaged upon by the people in an attempt to weaken others and do them in. This often leads to irrational attempts to discredit the threatening person.
Keeping face
This is an important part of Thai society. The Thai person will not allow anyone to look down on him. He would rather die (run away or quit) than to suffer loss of face in society. What others think is more important than anything else and one would willingly go into debt to "keep face."
GRATITUDE To mother/ family why they sell pussy
""Pay debt of mother’s milk"). The parents receive merit from the act of their son entering the priesthood (vicariously) and the son is considered a good person because he has responded to their goodness.
Thai people are naturally curious about the affairs of others. This is seen in questions asked when meeting other people, "Where are you going?", "Where have you been?". "How much did you pay for it?", etc. This interest is a lot to do with rural living.
Thais can be forgiving more than westerners
This value is taught by Thai Buddhism, "Have a heart of mercy toward each other." It is taught from childhood up and accounts for the "mai pen rai" responses to situations involving conflicts. For example, when two cars crash the person in the wrong apologizes and the offended person responds, "mai pen rai." "Mai pen rai" (it does not matter) as a result has become a byword for Thai people. I have had this forgiveness a lot myself
So basically money is paramount these days
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 10:04 pm on April 25, 2012
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magnum
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Quote: from snoops on 9:11 am on April 26, 2012
god bless mangum..........but he is preaching to the wrong choir. We all love thailand becoz its all screwed up!
Hot babes who are good at what they do.
Mr M would do better spending his time at the orpahnage rather then trying to save guys here.............lol! We are beyond saving. AND NO NOT ALL OF US WANT TO MARRY A VILLAGE ISSAN GIRL!
... I will aquit myself but once with you snoops, and then be done with you as I did with Blonks, who formerly wore the unflattering Forum Village Idiot hat... (looks pretty good on you, though).
... because you appear to me either immature well short of your few years, or are of age but simply retarded, you seem incapable of holding two complex thoughts in your simple mind at the same time... so, I'll keep this simple.
... I just couldn't care less about 'saving guys', as you misinterpret (once again, predictably wide of the mark)... with few exceptions (maybe even you), most of us here have a limit to the depths to which we will stoop... sex between consenting adults is one thing, but true soulless animal behaviors are something quite different.
... while some of those base behaviors are acted out in Thailand's sex scene, most of what happens there is between consenting adults... far more disturbing behaviors are perpetrated in day-to-day life here... against people who are either children, or not consenting... true victims of soulless animals.
... that sort of stuff pisses me off... badly... as it does quite a high percentage of forum members here... and we do share at times very spirited discussion about these behaviors, by farang and Thais... outside the view of this forum, I do choose to do something about it... I am no armchair slacktivist.
... above simple noun-verb, noun-verb, noun-verb, this appears lost to you... again, that bothersome problem you have with grasping two complex concepts simultaneously... incapable of 'getting it', you can offer little more than to blurt out "Ah, hypocrisy!................. hahahahahah!"... Jah-he-sus Christ, pul-leaze!
... with that, I'll ignore any further of your unimaginative inanities, as I decided with the previous Forum Village Idiot, Blonk... you really got no game, snoops, and are simply not the kind of guy with whom I want to share a table, or a forum thread... I just don't abide people as you.
... so... am I getting through to you?.. snoops?
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 11:56 pm on April 25, 2012
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