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Huh? Multiregion players these days no longer merely 'hint', but come right out to claim multi-regional and multi-zone support.
In fact, what you want to look for:
- multi-region support settings that are global (do not require settings for each time you play).
- Support for RCE, which is a hack to defeat multi-region support. The hack defeats the hack from the studios.
- Standards system conversion - no use being able to play your NTSC or PAL discs, if you TV can't support the format. Standards conversion will ALWASY output video in the format of your TV, and take care of the conversion within the player.
- There is a scaling issue with the above, that needs to be considered.
Most low-end players support these features, through a simple remote control override. Many high-end players also have hidden features to enable multi-region support - still, paying over $50 US for a DVD player these days is foolish.
Oh, and it has nothing to do with 'expensive' or 'cheap' players, as Mr. Finix insinuates in his ignorance, but rather with an aspect of the player known as the 'loader' (essentially, the DVD reader mechanism), and the loader's ability to read from anything BUT a regularly pressed DVD.
If your loader can read DVD-R or DVD-RW disks, it will be able to handle pirated DVDs. Older loaders could not, and thus if you have an older player, you might have issues.
Most newer players claim -R and -RW support in their literature.
Regardless, Mr. Finix is nearly 100% wrong in every aspect of his responses.
Hope this helps.
Harry
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Posted on: 12:33 am on Sep. 8, 2004
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LocalYokul
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Quote: from DrLove on 11:05 am on Sep. 8, 2004
Oh, yeh, another smart ass. LY.... do you really think these pirated DVDs are copied from the original DVDs?
No, these are ripped, copy protection removed and then burned region free. Also porn DVDs are ripped and are not DVD 1s! Perhaps you could take a day off from the board (appreciated by many of us) and make a field trip to Pantip or Fortune Town.
speaking of smartarse..! !
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I don't need to make any field trips to Pantip, and the discs that I buy are NOT burned, as in NOT DVD-R.
You can tell just by looking at it that it's been manufactured (pumped) and not burned. 
hmm, maybe you should take a break and do an field trip to Rayong and buy some better quality discs if you're gettin' burned copies in Pantip & Fortune. 
and my DVD-Rom in my PC will report zone conflicts, thank you very much, while the DVD player software I use will allow any region to be played and also has a shiny little 1 / 2 / 3 label to show you which reqion you're playing...
Quote: from hzink on 12:33 pm on Sep. 8, 2004
Most low-end players support these features, through a simple remote control override. Many high-end players also have hidden features to enable multi-region support - still, paying over $50 US for a DVD player these days is foolish.
yes, the remote hack is what I was trying to tell MN about, and damn I paid $450 for my kit, but it's HTib, including the speakers, subwoofer, DTS, et al
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Posted on: 1:30 am on Sep. 8, 2004
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I would like to add my own amount of expert advice... I can barely put a disc in a slot but a couple of observations:
a) why not buy original DVD? A lot less likely to fail in any player.
b) the pirates love to 'market' DVD 9 but I was told 9 vs. 5 is all about capacity as opposed to quality. Also I was told you can't tell 9 vs. 5 by just looking at it.
c) The fastest way to tell the source of a DVD is (1) when it hits the streets and (2) full screen vs. widescreen.
If the movie is just in the theatres in the US and it is simultaneously available at Pantip, it is being generated from a handycam used in the theatre. Also, if the picture takes up the whole screen and you hear an 'audience' coughing, laughing, etc. it is from a handycam.
If the movie has a black area above and below the picture (wide screen) it is usually copied from another DVD. Also if there is a lot of extra footage and features it comes from another DVD.
Why am I so smart? I just read an article in the Asia Wall St Journal (Fri Aug 27) about this piracy crap.
Also, a pirate DVD will cost about BT 120 - 180 while a original VCD costs the same.
Don't buy a new machine, The pirate crap fails most of the time. An original DVD now is usually less than a barfine.
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Posted on: 4:40 am on Sep. 8, 2004
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LocalYokul
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original VCDs don't interest me anymore.
They don't have 5.1 surround sound or DTS like a DVD can.
most of the time (maybe always) the DVD 9s are NOT the handycam type, but the ones you mention with extra features, languages etc.
this is mainly due to the fact that DVD 9 has two layers of data whereas the DVD 5 only has one layer.
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Posted on: 4:56 am on Sep. 8, 2004
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fastmover
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Quote: from jack attack on 4:40 pm on Sep. 8, 2004
c) The fastest way to tell the source of a DVD is (1) when it hits the streets and (2) full screen vs. widescreen.
If the movie is just in the theatres in the US and it is simultaneously available at Pantip, it is being generated from a handycam used in the theatre.
Not always true, here in China we get DVD's copied from promotional tapes/DVD's...they are the ones that go from colour to B/W every 15 minutes or so....and/or they have a "If are you watching this tape, call this 800#", or 'This tape is the property of.."message for good samaritans.
I have seen films (like Man. Candidate...Washington) prior to US release.
If the movie has a black area above and below the picture (wide screen) it is usually copied from another DVD.
There are a lot of faked letterbox DVDs out now, because the sound and digital camera copies are much better than a few years ago, so a direct copy can be faked easier. Sort of faked fakes.
Also if there is a lot of extra footage and features it comes from another DVD.
This is generally true it seems.
Articles about the illegal DVD trade are generally behind what is actually happening because of the fact that any illegal business has to keep ahead of the law, and if some reporter guy finds it out, it is already old news.
Funny but the press here gives mega coverage to the destruction and crack down on the illegal DVD trade.
But couple times a week I go and get the newest DVD's from my dealer who has his shop right across the street from a police station.
Everybody loves the movies.
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Posted on: 5:02 am on Sep. 8, 2004
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I have over 250 pirate crap....only ever had about 3 bad ones....easy to buy the 'non cinema' DVD's...just ask the vendor, always seem to get a truthful answer, the one time I didn't it was changed with a smile and an apology.
The difference between DVD 9 and 5, often it is only about quantity and not quality. If a DVD can hold the full movie at full quality then a DVD 9 will provide nothing more than extra storage space. In the case of a 3 hour film, then you cannot fit that onto a 5 at full quality, so you will have a lower standard version if bought on a 5.
You can tell a DVD 9 from a 5. In the centre on a 9 there will be a sort of glue mark, something to do with the fusion of the layers. If you look at a 9 with a program such as DVD DEcryptor you will se how much info is on the dick, if it hold more than 4.5Gb it is a genuine 9. Witha program such as DVD Shrink you can take a 9, reduce the quality (or remove some features (eg language tracks) ) and put it on a 5.
A movie that is in the cinemas can be a full digital master, so that statement from the Wall Street Journal is incorrect. I have a full digital master of Man On Fire (130B) which is just in the cinema now I believe. I had Finding Nemo in full digital form some months before it hit the cinames in the UK. It's all about how a studio distibutes review copies...if the distibute on DVD, someone will sell it on and 'voila'
Another reason to buy fakes...the range of films available on pirate DVD in Thailand is far greater than legal copies. Very few films are distibuted in Thailand on genuine DVD at the price of 259B. Most are imports and retail much higher 600-700B. Kill Bill is available in Thailand on locally distributed DVD and it sells at 259B...if given that option I will buy 'genuine' every time.
Hoever recently in Thailand I have bourght 'Assault on Precinct 13', 'City Of God', 'Madame Sata', 'Farewell My Concubine', 'Scarface' and many other films, the likes of which would be very difficult to find as genuine copies and certainly not a locally distributed copy.
Don't take all your info from articles with an obvious agenda.
point c by the way is incorrect, it all depends how the film was taken to DVD by the makers. I would say only 25% of the genuine masters I have have the black at the top and bottom.
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Posted on: 5:09 am on Sep. 8, 2004
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Yurune
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As for you Maximus, you wanna come with me to buy DVD's, seems your friend don't know sh_t!
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Posted on: 5:14 am on Sep. 8, 2004
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Quote: from LocalYokul on 10:56 pm on Sep. 8, 2004
original VCDs don't interest me anymore.
They don't have 5.1 surround sound or DTS like a DVD can.
most of the time (maybe always) the DVD 9s are NOT the handycam type, but the ones you mention with extra features, languages etc.
this is mainly due to the fact that DVD 9 has two layers of data whereas the DVD 5 only has one layer.
Dont you guys have computers, every type of DVD should be able to play on a computer with a DVD player attached, it is much easier to download software if it will not play.
I get VCDs regularly from BKK for my son and they play no problem, sometimes I get stuff from Kazza lite, which will not play 9 times out of ten I can solve it on the WWW. I have 5.1 suround sound on my computer as well.
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Posted on: 5:19 am on Sep. 8, 2004
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cheapcharlie
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Quote: from DrLove on 5:05 pm on Sep. 8, 2004
Dumb ass.... Even the clever ones like ManuelBKK and myself know Philips is a Korean brand! We're from Philips country ourselves!
Netherlands - bedoel je Philips is a Dutch company  .
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Posted on: 5:27 am on Sep. 8, 2004
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Ronnie Raygun
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Since Dr. Love is not Korean, I do believe he was pulling your leg.
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Posted on: 5:37 am on Sep. 8, 2004
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