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LocalYokul

wow, must suck to have to carry around a driver's license AND an ID card

hmm, that contradicts what my Dutch friends tell me about NL, that they would NEVER suffice to having to carry ID cards, ever since WWII

but they live here in LOS since before 1994, hmm


I'd still feel comfortable carrying just a photocopy of the face page of passport, visa page, entry stamp page, & departure card, even in NL, FR, BE, Lux


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Posted on: 9:47 pm on Nov. 3, 2004
French Goat

Quote: from LocalYokul on 9:41 am on Nov. 4, 2004

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hmm, that contradicts what my Dutch friends tell me about NL, that they would NEVER suffice to having to carry ID cards, ever since WWII

but they live here in LOS since before 1994, hmm

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LY,

The following information is in french, but I am sure that you are able to find a good translation software online...

http://www.senat.fr/lc/lc118/lc1185.html

It clearly explains that since June 1994, the Dutch people must detain an ID document...



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Posted on: 10:14 pm on Nov. 3, 2004
mm3
Here's a question and answer from the Phuket Gazette on the subject of carrying your passport with you at all times in the LOS. The answer is provided by the Superintendent of Phuket Tourist Police.


Passport worry

It was reported in newspapers recently that on August 16 the police raided a nightclub popular with foreigners, testing more than 300 people there for drugs, and then fining many for not carrying their passports.

They prevented customers from leaving the venue and administered urine tests on 373 people. After failing to find anyone testing positive, the police rounded up 104 “criminals” and took them to the police station for not having their passports with them.

In most countries police advise tourists to keep their valuables and passports in the hotel safe and not to leave them on the beach while swimming. But not having your passport with you at all times is a criminal offence in Thailand, so what should I do when I go to the beach for a swim?

Do the Thai Tourist Police recommend that visitors to Thailand leave their passports on the beach while swimming? Or take the passport for a swim as well? Or perhaps not swim at all when in Thailand?

Wednesday, September 22, 2004 Thomas Jefferson


“The law here is that all foreign tourist must have their passports to hand when the police ask for them. Tourists being in possession of their passports is similar to Thai people having identity cards – they must keep their ID cards with them for when police want to check their identify.

However, if you are worried about losing your passport you can make a photocopy and carry that instead. At present we have problems in this country with international criminals, so inspection of passports is essential for safety and security reasons.

When urine tests are conducted in Bangkok it is normal to check passports. I believe that many foreigners are happy to cooperate because they understand that we are serious about prevention of drug use.

When police check for passports and people don’t have them, they must pay a fine. ”

Wednesday, September 22, 2004
Pol Lt Col Panudej Sookwong, Superintendent of Phuket Tourist Police.


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Posted on: 10:51 pm on Nov. 3, 2004
Finchy
In the UK there is no requirement to carry ID, unless you are driving, in which case you are, technically, supposed to carry your driving licence. If you dont have it though, you generally get 7 days to produce it at a police station.

If you are walking down the street, and you haven't broken any law, and the police stop you, you do not even have to tell them what your name is, just laugh and walk away.

See how far that gets you in Thailand!!!


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Posted on: 10:53 pm on Nov. 3, 2004
DrLove
As a 10 year resident of Bangkok I never have my passport with me. Never been asked for it too.

Don't say it can happen, but the risk is not so big if you look caucasian.

When I make a visa run to Aranyaprathet, all Thai people in the train are checked for their ID card. Those not carrying one will be moved to a seperate apartment..

Police has never asked me (or any fellow frang travellers) to see my passport.


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Posted on: 11:18 pm on Nov. 3, 2004
wimster2507
As per January 1st 2005 there's a ID carrying obligation in the Netherlands (for Dutch people also). Depending on situation it can be passport or drivers license.


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Posted on: 11:32 pm on Nov. 3, 2004
DrLove
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As per January 1st 2005 there's a ID carrying obligation in the Netherlands (for Dutch people also). Depending on situation it can be passport or drivers license.
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Another reason not to go back! 555!

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It clearly explains that since June 1994, the Dutch people must detain an ID document...
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I left August 1994. At that time there was talk about compulsary identification. But certainly not in place at that time...

Knowing that these sort of things in Holland take a very long time, the date January 2005 seems acceptable to me.


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Posted on: 11:37 pm on Nov. 3, 2004
Smegma

Quote: from DrLove on 11:12 am on Nov. 4, 2004
As a 10 year resident of Bangkok I never have my passport with me. Never been asked for it too.

But of course, you never go out and always stay home.

Ok, just kidding. But in three years, I have been asked for it twice. Both times I was in a taxi with other farangs. Once was during the APEC meeting last year and another time was late at night on a roadblock set near the Korean embassy. A photocopy of the passport was enough.


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Posted on: 11:42 pm on Nov. 3, 2004
MarkC

Quote: from Finchy on 10:47 am on Nov. 4, 2004
In the UK there is no requirement to carry ID, unless you are driving, in which case you are, technically, supposed to carry your driving licence. If you dont have it though, you generally get 7 days to produce it at a police station.

If you are walking down the street, and you haven't broken any law, and the police stop you, you do not even have to tell them what your name is, just laugh and walk away.

See how far that gets you in Thailand!!!




Or in London, actually. If you're stopped by a police officer in the UK you have the right to know the officer's name and the police station where they work. You also have the right to know why you've been stopped. And legally, you're right, you don't have to answer the police officer's questions. But (there's always a but) if the police officer tells you that they think you have committed or are about to commit a crime that you can be arrested for, you must give your name and address. And if you don't you will be arrested.

And a friend of mine was arrested for 'drinking without a passport' and spent the night in a cell. He now carries a photocopy of his passport at all times.


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Posted on: 12:15 am on Nov. 4, 2004
LocalYokul

they scan the barcode with a handheld device and all your details show up on their device.


who is going to fund all these new electronic devices ??



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Posted on: 12:18 am on Nov. 4, 2004
     

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