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I have one as well, boy 5 already a looker (dont take after me ) totally white
with thai eyes.
We live in europe, without him the marriage would probably have dissolved, like has been mentioned it binds but it can get nasty.
I know all the movie star stories, the pros and cons of an upbringing here or there.
For me personally I want his early years to be western
so he has a free mind, my biggest fear is he would end up like her brothers i.e doing nothing.
The only problem is he is now a five year old smart arse with comments on everything, which my thai wife
has difficulty in, everything is related to the thai way - great in thailand - not everywhere else in the world.
I often have to intervene in fights between her and her own child that she cant or wont understand, because instead of being bought up like a house plant he is being taught to be independent already at this age.
He is indeed the most precious thing that has happened in my life, so I want to give him some balance for when hes older, she tries to make him thai - even though he dont look like a thai, luckily he already thinks himself european, but sometimes you see the thai side come out, which is ok as he gets older he will be able to distinguish.
she will never be able to she is Thai, Thailand is the best country in the world, Thatsin is a good man, and everything in thailand is perfect of course.........
Ill admit being a chauvanist if I had a daughter I would not worry quite so much as a son, I also have two step daughters residing in bangkok 9 and 10 years.
Nice kid btw TPE, it seems us Falang are gradually taking over thailand at least with our ofspring
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 5:57 am on Aug. 15, 2005
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issanking
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Me as well i've got a 2 year old boy, damn good looking now, he stays in los because I want him to be thai before european,
I already spend 6 months there and here in 2/3 month blocks, I got another 3 years then I wish to be there all the time,
CC I know thai kids in London about 14/15 years old, I speak about 80% thai they have'nt got a clue about thier language, culture or country,
very sad to see, Having a kid was the best thing I ever done, and i'm glad I did it like this,
there are times when I miss him but he's got a better life than a lot of kids and i'm still around,
registered him and now he has a british passport so when he grows up he is free to go to uk and study,
nice to know how many members have kids with thai's.
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Bangkok Women : Meet Sensual Bangkok Women
Posted on: 7:44 pm on Aug. 15, 2005
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Ballsburstin
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Funny how the kid thing is stablizing. As was pointed out, lots of Western marriages try to save themselves by having a kid, and then it just gets uglier.
But the Thai women really do love kids -- an answer to the question in the Teddy bear thread. They treat the bears just like their kids, as they are brought up to nuture this way. Almost instinct, by the time they grow up. Gave my TGF a stuffed dog with big floppy ears and sad eyes for Valentine's Day, so she named it "Valen." She always absentmindedly hugs it close when talking to me in bed. A sort of kid proxy, lol! Gives her the warm and fuzzies.
My TGF's son (not luk krung) is almost 7 now, I've known him since he was 3. He was terrified of me at first, which turned out to be good, as that evolved into respect and emulation. Emulation in that when we sent him to a better school outside his village for 1st grade this year, he is now scoring #1 in class on his tests, as he tries to emulate what he perceives I think is important. Not sure he'll keep it up, but he's naturally curious and learns fast, so hopefully his future will be brighter than some of the lazy drinkers I see in his village.
When the 3 of us are together upcountry, walking through the fields to the river, it all feels good. This is the thing that the TG's and BG's all have in the back of their minds anyway, when we are screwing them s/t 24/7, as it's their real world. DG's comments of late about the upcountry life have lots of reality, can say that from my own experience now. The clubs create their own realities, that swallow some/many of the ladies, but in the end, most migrate back to the TG/mother thing upcountry, which they see as their role anyway.
I think TPE has a valid point -- the kid thing fullfills a role they feel drawn to, and it represents a stronger and more lasting reality than the bar scene they may have left. Not for the faint hearted or the punting purists amongst us, lol, but certainly and alternative.
- Balls
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 10:49 pm on Aug. 15, 2005
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thaiprivateeye
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Have to admit the odd time doing a BG investigation, I would cart little miss Nat along, - never inside of course, but sometimes chatting to the TG in question outside like in Soi Cowboy, - a good trick, because I could say 'do you have baby? - is it Luk krung ?- and often get the answers YES and NO which was exactly what the client did not want to hear !! - anyway, I diverse - point being, always, all the BGs around, would come over, want to cuddle her, buy her food, etc. and obviously were far more caring about her, than they would be about that nights bar fining farang ! -
Interesting to hear from you CC - yes, can relate to the independant/half smart touch already ! - but I guess with any kids, having them mix with a decent bunch of mates is the answer - and this is probably one avenue where Thailand village life is better, you see all the kids playing together, and having plenty of fun, and not a TV or Video game in sight !
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Sexy Bangkok Girls
Posted on: 12:00 am on Aug. 16, 2005
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cheapcharlie
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Interesting points from everyone, it seems everyone has their own ideas about whats best for their kids
which is as it should be, it also has to do with our situations to some extent.
My current work is in europe so its normal to want my wife and son to be with me, on the other hand those already living in los who become a father, its logical to continue the life you have in thailand.
The other way is those lucky or rich enough to be able to spend longer than a few weeks per year in thailand and travel back and forth but decide to leave their child (ren) with mum in Thailand.
all of these are options occur, Issanking interesting you say Thai kids, do you mean with falang fathers.
Im from London but live in holland for years due to my job, my son has british nationality as well.
He speaks dutch but is well aware he is not, in fluent dutch he talks to the other kids at school he is English.
I did not teach him this, so have no idea where this came from. It could come from my parents who come over now and then with stacks of toys and spoil him rotten.
His mother never taught him thai, she speaks to him in english. Its up to her to teach him about thailand, but it will not help him now where he is, and vise versa.
For children education is paramount, it makes me sad trying to explain world politics to my wife or geography because she hasn't a clue, yesterday I tried to explain what jews are and whats going on in isreal, she still does not understand.
I do have some nice pictures of my son with the kids at my step daughters birthday party in april (will try to find one on the labtop), the thai kids treat him like a king, look at him like royalty and treat him as such. He can do literally anything, slaps them on the head, calls them pompoie, its all ok cause hes the little falang prins with all the toys and blond hair and white skin.
Its different here its the other way around, here he is too sweet and has to learn to be tough in the multicultural european society of now,otherwise he wont survive. In this point I worry about him with a mother relativating everything to thailand but he will be ok, even though by thai standards he is big mouthed he is still one of the sweetest kids in his class.
Basically I dont want him growing up thai, but european first, my choice, what he knows about thailand is going to lotus, carffour, buddah, taxi metre, some swear words, and bloody big roaches.
TPE my wife is from Bangkok, ive never even been to a thai village in my life, it sounds nice but even if as I consider to do, get my company to transfer me to bangkok, it is bangkok we would live and im not sure if bangkok is so good for a child, its something im considering very carefully at the moment.
So we're all in different situations as I see it, but all have in common our offspring have thai blood in their veins togeather with falang blood.
so they should get the best of both worlds.
not queing for a visa and not paying for wat po 
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 6:26 am on Aug. 16, 2005
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shark68
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Actually I think each of you has made valuable statements.
I am a 'look krueng' myself, my mother came to Germany 42 years ago to study.
In the same way your ideas of bringing up your kids may differ, you will not be able to predict, how this will work out in the end. Go according to your hearts, because you want to do the best for your kids and I am convinced it will be good like that.
My parents split up when I was 10 and I stayed with my father. I went to Thailand the 1st time when I was 20 yrs old and could not speak a single word of Thai 
But I already felt even as a young lad that I had an attraction for the girls that I did not have back in Germany. If I only still wanted like I once could 
Now 18 yrs later I am (almost) fluent, planning to marry and will move to LOS by the end of next year... 
shark68
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Bangkok Women : Meet Beautiful Thai Girls
Posted on: 9:06 am on Aug. 16, 2005
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thaiprivateeye
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Good to hear from you Shark.. interesting to get a Luk-Krung's perspective, and to learn that even tho your parents split, you retain an affinity with Thailand - Trust all goes well with you and your TG in LOS !
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 4:12 am on Aug. 17, 2005
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shark68
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Thanks for your wishes.
Yes, I strongly believe all goes well.
I will know when I will be there... 
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Thai Girls : Meet Active Thai Girls
Posted on: 4:36 am on Aug. 17, 2005
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HarryParatestes
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Speaking of luuk kreung... I and my TG have a baby boy on the way... due in mid-October. He'll be born in BKK and probably schooled in the USA.
Maybe he'll be cute and smart; I just hope he's healthy.
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 1:25 am on Aug. 29, 2005
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dagul
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I once witnessed a close TG friend of mine give her baby to the father (a man she despised for good reason) who lived in Rome. She was devastated, but she felt it was best for the baby. The father was a complete ass for multiple reasons, but one thing she knew was that he dearly loved their daughter. She knew her meager income could not provide the life and education she wanted for her daughter. She put the baby first above all else. I really felt bad for her. Now all she has is a tattered picture and a few old toys.
Before this happened my friend would constantly tell me stories of raising her daughter. When she told me these stories I remembered thinking I hope the mother of my son or daughter will be like her. Now she can't even talk about it and the father is not allowed back in Thailand for whatever reason.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 2:27 am on Aug. 29, 2005
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