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The more I look at this image once magnified the more I think that this "artifact" was hadded to it with photoshop...
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 4:24 am on Mar. 19, 2004
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Quote: from UK Shaga on 5:05 pm on Mar. 19, 2004
I tell you, Independents day, I had high regard for you over the last few days and its all gone in the trash after that. Yes there are some good tit bits in that film like. Why did they send all those pilots into battle to launch missiles that could have been launched from the ground, they could have launched way more power full missiles from the ground as well at the same time they where attacking the main ship at the end, when they where out of missiles on the planes that are getting knocked out of the sky every 3 seconds (and the president survives) why did they not send off one from the ground. WOW Will smith "HUU!! 6 million dollars please no talent) Survives all that krap, and his new girl friend as well and there child and they meet up with who, the first lady and! And! AND! he just happens to land where they all are, avoiding the alien invasion fleet and get back with all of them in one helicopter, HUU!!!! 7 million dollars said Will Smith the talent less knob. Sorry I am a massive film file a bad films just really get me down. See all soon. Peace
I was appalled when Independents Day first came out but it didn't seem so bad on second viewing. Talking of bad films have you noticed Hollywood's latest style. Films that are much the same as 'soap operas' on TV and remakes of old TV series. Hollywood no longer makes films but soaps ? They look like they have run out of ideas ? You are probably not old enough to remember but years ago when one went to the pictures there was most times an 'A' movie and a 'B' movie. I just used to love those 'B' movies. If I ran from school to get to the Odeon, Richmond before 3:15pm it was only 6D (sixpence) to get in. Saturday morning it was the Ritz Cinema. Flash Gordon !! - I once saw all 23 episodes of a Flash Gordon series at the NFT. Four and a half hours ooooooooooohhh bum-ache !
Satuday morning and the lyrics where put up on the screen!
What did Delaware, boys,
What did Delaware?
What did Delaware, boys,
What did Delaware?
What did Delaware, boys,
What did Delaware?
I ask you now as a personal friend,
What did Delaware?
She wore her New Jersey, boys,
She wore her New Jersey
She wore her New Jersey, boys,
She wore her New Jersey
She wore her New Jersey, boys,
She wore her New Jersey
I tell you now as a personal friend,
She wore her New Jersey
What did Idaho, boys,
What did Idaho?
What did Idaho, boys,
What did Idaho?
What did Idaho, boys,
What did Idaho?
I ask you now as a personal friend,
What did Idaho?
She hoed her Maryland, boys,
She hoed her Maryland
She hoed her Maryland, boys,
She hoed her Maryland
She hoed her Maryland, boys,
She hoed her Maryland
I tell you now as a personal friend,
She hoed her Maryland
What did Ioweigh, boys,
What did Ioweigh?
What did Ioweigh, boys,
What did Ioweigh?
What did Ioweigh, boys,
What did Ioweigh?
I ask you now as a personal friend,
What did Ioweigh?
She weighed a Washington, boys,
She weighed a Washington
She weighed a Washington, boys,
She weighed a Washington
She weighed a Washington, boys,
She weighed a Washington
I tell you now as a personal friend,
She weighed a Washington
How did Wiscon-sin, boys,
How did Wiscon-sin?
How did Wiscon-sin, boys,
How did Wiscon-sin?
How did Wiscon-sin, boys,
How did Wiscon-sin?
I ask you now as a personal friend,
How did Wiscon-sin?
She stole a New-brass-key, boys,
She stole a New-brass-key
She stole a New-brass-key, boys,
She stole a New-brass-key
She stole a New-brass-key, boys,
She stole a New-brass-key
I tell you now as a personal friend,
She stole a New-brass-key
What did Tennessee, boys,
What did Tennessee?
What did Tennessee, boys,
What did Tennessee?
What did Tennessee, boys,
What did Tennessee?
I ask you now as a personal friend,
What did Tennessee?
She saw what Arkansaw, boys,
She saw what Arkansaw
She saw what Arkansaw, boys,
She saw what Arkansaw
She saw what Arkansaw, boys,
She saw what Arkansaw
I tell you now as a personal friend,
She saw what Arkansaw
How did Flora-die, boys,
How did Flora-die
How did Flora-die, boys,
How did Flora-die
How did Flora-die, boys,
How did Flora-die
I ask you now as a personal friend,
How did Flora-die?
She died in Missouri, boys,
She died in Missouri
She died in Missouri, boys,
She died in Missouri
She died in Missouri, boys,
She died in Missouri
I tell you now as a personal friend,
She died in Missouri
Where has Oregon, boys,
Where has Oregon?
Where has Oregon, boys,
Where has Oregon?
Where has Oregon, boys,
Where has Oregon?
I ask you now as a personal friend,
Where has Oregon?
She's gone to Oklahom, boys,
She's gone to Oklahom
She's gone to Oklahom, boys,
She's gone to Oklahom
She's gone to Oklahom, boys,
She's gone to Oklahom
I tell you now as a personal friend,
She's gone to Oklahom
Why did Califon-ya, boys,
Why did Califon?
Why did Califon-ya, boys,
Why did Califon?
Why did Califon-ya, boys,
Why did Califon?
I ask you now as a personal friend,
Why did Califon?
She phoned to say Hawai-ya, boys,
She phoned to say Hawai-ya
She phoned to say Hawai-ya, boys,
She phoned to say Hawai-ya
She phoned to say Hawai-ya, boys,
She phoned to say Hawai-ya
I tell you now as a personal friend,
That's why Califoned.
What did Mississip, boys,
What did Mississip?
What did Mississip, boys,
What did Mississip?
What did Mississip, boys,
What did Mississip?
I ask you now as a personal friend,
What did Mississip?
She sipped a Minnisota, boys,
She sipped a Minnisota
She sipped a Minnisota, boys,
She sipped a Minnisota
She sipped a Minnisota, boys,
She sipped a Minnisota
I tell you now as a personal friend,
That's what Mississipped.
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Bangkok Women : Meet Sensual Bangkok Women
Posted on: 4:53 am on Mar. 19, 2004
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Hermanolobo
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Quote: from madfrog on 5:24 pm on Mar. 19, 2004
The more I look at this image once magnified the more I think that this "artifact" was hadded to it with photoshop...
Madfrog
Long exposure picture. No meteorite or UFO.
Probably something moving slowly in orbit ?
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 4:56 am on Mar. 19, 2004
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Gentlemen,
good to see there is some life in the UFO - thread again,
thanks to Hermano.
As for the MARS observation - the speculation and quest goes on.
It may be an alien observation of how mankind is doing up there on Mars. Most likely is a meteorite hitting Mars' atmosphere though.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Sexy Bangkok Girls
Posted on: 6:23 am on Mar. 19, 2004
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Quote: from liftoff on 7:23 pm on Mar. 19, 2004
Gentlemen,
good to see there is some life in the UFO - thread again,
thanks to Hermano.
As for the MARS observation - the speculation and quest goes on.
It may be an alien observation of how mankind is doing up there on Mars. Most likely is a meteorite hitting Mars' atmosphere though.
Long exposure camera = a meteor would produce a long line right across the frame ?
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 6:25 am on Mar. 19, 2004
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true enough.
Stephen Greer is briefing any incomming Director of CIA on the FO presence issue.
It has been reported on the news in 2000 with approval of the US military, and failed to capture the attention of most people and most people on this forum, induding Dirty Guru.
I'll send you a PM on the source, there are vectoring exercises several times a year also in UK - quite succesfull if we earthlings can handle the mind-bogling experience.
Ready for take-off, anyone?
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Bangkok Women : Meet Beautiful Thai Girls
Posted on: 7:08 pm on Mar. 19, 2004
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I thought Dirty Guru was a real alien having trouble coping with the translation of his language (whatever they speak on Tau Ceti or Zeta Rediculous) ) and English.
Lost in Translation?
http://www.lost-in-translation.com/
Nice picture of DG in his hotel?
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 7:17 am on Mar. 20, 2004
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I think the Pc of DG has been taken the morning before he had lunch with Candy Sweet, he was reported to have a hang-over, which the pic clearly shows.
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 2:45 pm on Mar. 20, 2004
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Part 1
Inside the Military UFO Underground
By A.J.S. Rayl
In 1969, Project Blue Book--the 16-year U.S. Air Force investigation of
UFOs--came to an end, and so did the government's interest in
extraterrestrial flying discs. Or so the American public has been told. In
recent years, numerous individuals and documents from various agencies have
emerged from behind the veil of government secrecy to tell a different story.
Their spin: that while the government officially abandoned all interest in
UFOs, a secret military underground was hot on the trail of suspicious radar
blips, saucers, and even the aliens themselves. What follows are the stories
of three individuals--two of whom come with impressive military credentials;
they say they have glimpsed what seems like evidence of a decades-old
cover-up cloaked in the guise of national security. The third interviewee, a
propulsion-system engineer, claims he was hired by an independent military
contractor to study the innards of an extraterrestrial spacecraft being
researched and tested on the Nellis Air Range in central Nevada.
Omni cannot endorse the veracity of the stories told below. In fact, we must
emphasize that extraordinary tales like these require extraordinary levels of
proof certainly not furnished in our pages, nor, we feel, anywhere else. That
said, we'll get to the fun part. In the pages that follow, you'll find
strange tales of alien intrigue and UFO woe. Decide for yourself: Are these
the ravings of demented hoaxers and madmen or revelations of truth? Their
stories, delivered in dossier format, have been edited from interviews
conducted by author A. J. S. Rayl during the past year.
NATO Meets E.T.
Name: Robert O. Dean, retired Army command sergeant major
Claim: Back in the Sixties, NATO issued a classified report stating that UFOs
were real, of extraterrestrial origin, and had visited the earth. This
extraordinary report was said to come out of NATO's command center, the
Supreme Headquarters Allied Powers, Europe (SHAPE), located then just outside
of Paris, France.
Background: Dean, a highly decorated veteran, served on the front lines in
both Korea and Vietnam. In 1963, while assigned to the Supreme Headquarters
Operations Center (SHOC), SHAPE's war room, headed up by then-supreme allied
commander of Europe, Gen. Lyman Lemnitzer, Dean claims he was able to read
the detailed 12-inch-thick NATO report on UFOs.
The Story: "SHAPE was one of those choice assignments. You had to have a
spotless record and pass security background checks. I applied on a whim and
got it. I was very proud and pleased. At SHAPE, I was put through more
security checks, given a Cosmic Top Secret (yes, this is a real term)
clearance, the highest NATO has, and assigned to the Supreme Headquarters
Operations Center, known as SHOC, the NATO war room. In those days, the
activity would run hot and cold and much of it would depend on how the
Soviets wanted to play it. The most intriguing thing to me was that we were
continually having a problem with large, metallic, circular objects that
would appear over central Europe; these were reported as visual phenomena by
our pilots and appeared on radar as well. Some flew in formation, and most of
the time we spotted them coming out of the Soviet Union, over East Germany,
West Germany, France, and then they would often circle somewhere over the
English Channel and head north, disappearing from NATO radar over the
Norwegian Sea. These objects were very large, moving very fast, at very high
altitudes--higher than we could reach at the time--and they seemed obviously
under intelligent control.
"I was told this had been going on for some time and that in February 1961
there had been quite a scare. Fifty of these objects were spotted on radar
and headed in formation from the Soviet Union toward Europe, flying at about
100,000 feet. The Soviets had closed all borders. Everybody went to red
alert. All hell broke loose. We really thought `The War' had started. We
scrambled. We knew the Russians were scrambling. It was the largest number of
these objects that had been seen. Fortunately--and only by the grace of
God--we didn't start bombing and neither did the Russians. In nine minutes,
they were gone.
"I was told that then-Deputy Supreme Allied Commander of Europe, Sir Thomas
Pike, had been repeatedly requesting information from London and Washington
about these objects, but nothing would ever come. We found out later that the
Columbine-Topaz spy ring in Paris was intercepting everything and forwarding
it to the KGB, which often got intelligence information even before we did.
So Pike decided, I was told, to develop an in-house study to determine
whether these objects were a military threat.
"In the meantime, the UFO matter literally brought about the establishment of
direct communication between the East and West in 1962, which I have always
found interesting and ironic. We had pretty well determined by that time that
these were not Russian craft, and the Russians had determined they were not
ours. So, we came to an understanding, and a direct telephone line was opened
between SHOC and the Warsaw Pact Headquarters Command. Of course, a setup was
always a possibility, so we had backup ways of checking out whether the
Russians were being truthful. But since we were both armed to the teeth and
World War III was just ticking away, it was a logical step in the right
direction. That idea developed into the hotline between the president of the
United States and the soviet premier, following the Cuban Missile Crisis.
"Well, by the time I arrived in 1963, everybody had been talking about the
study, and I had heard the rumors, seen the blips on radar, witnessed the
commotions, and some of us occasionally even talked about the possibilities.
But nothing really prepared me for what I started to read in the early
morning hours one night in January 1964.
"It was about 2:00 a.m. and a relatively quiet night when the SHOC controller
on duty went into the vault and came out with this huge document. `Take a
look at this,' he said. The title was simply Assessment: An Evaluation of a
Possible Military Threat to Allied Forces in Europe. It was numbered, #3,
stamped Cosmic Top Secret, had eight inches worth of appendices, dozens of
photographs, and had been signed into the vault by German colonel Heinz
Berger, SHOC's head of security. I quickly learned that it was based on two
and a half years of research, was funded by NATO money, and that only 15
copies were published--in English, German, and French. Each one was numbered.
All were classified and ordered to be kept under lock and key.
"Every time I got the chance, from then until I left, I would read a section
or two in it. It was the most intriguing document I'd ever read. It was put
together by military representatives of every NATO nation and also included
contributions from some of the greatest scientific minds. These objects were
violating all of our known laws of physics, and the study team had gone to
Cambridge, Oxford, the Sorbonne, MIT, and other major universities for input
on chemistry, physics, atmospheric physics, biology, history, psychology, and
even theology, all of which were separate appendices.
"I read about theories on Einstein's sought-after unified-field theory, the
high radiation at various landing sites, and UFO reports that dated back to
the Roman era and up to our own F105 pilots' sightings and encounters, and on
and on. I had always been a skeptic, but this report, well...it concluded
that this stuff was not science fiction.
"I read about contact encounters. One incident that had just happened in 1963
involved a landing on a Danish farm. According to the report, the farmer went
aboard with the two little beings and two more human-looking men who spoke to
him in Danish. The report included parts of his interrogation by government
authorities and their conclusions that he was telling the truth. In another
incident, according to the reports, a craft landed on an Italian airfield and
offered to take an Italian sergeant for a ride. He wet his pants--that's what
it said--and was so scared, he didn't go.
"The appendix that really got to me was titled `Autopsies.' I saw pictures of
a 30-meter disc that had crashed in Timmensdorfer, Germany, near the Baltic
Sea in 1961. The British Army, according to the report, got there first and
put up a perimeter. The craft had landed in very soft, loamy soil near the
Russian border and so hadn't destructed, but one-third of it was buried in.
We and the Russians, who also quickly showed up, had both tracked it.
"Inside, there were 12 small bodies, all dead. There were pictures of the
bodies, which looked like the beings known as the `grays,' being laid out and
then put on stretchers and loaded into jeeps, and autopsy photos, too. Some
of the little grays appeared to not be a reproductive-capable species. The
autopsy guys concluded, according to the report, that it looked as if they
had been cut out of a cookie cutter--clones with no alimentary tract. They
did not ingest or process food as we know it, nor did it appear that they had
any system for elimination.
"The craft itself was cut up like a pie into six pieces, put on lowboys and
hauled off. Scuttlebutt was that it was given to the Americans and flown to
Wright-Patterson Air Force base in Ohio. I looked at these pictures and
couldn't believe it. My skin got cold and I thought, My God. I had never
really believed we were all alone in the universe, but this was hard to
swallow.
"The major conclusions in the NATO report blew me away. There were five: 1)
The planet and human race had been the subject of a detailed survey of some
kind by several different extraterrestrial civilizations, four of which they
had identified visually. One race looked almost indistinguishable from us.
Another resembled humans in height, stature, and structure, but with a very
gray, pasty skin tone. The third race is now popularly known as the grays,
and the fourth was described as reptilian, with vertical pupils and
lizardlike skin. 2) These alien visitations had been going on for a very long
time, at least 200 years--perhaps longer. 3) The extraterrestrials did not
appear hostile since if that were their intent they would have already
demonstrated their malevolence. 4) UFO appearances and quick disappearances
as well as the flybys were demonstrations conducted on purpose to show us
some of their capabilities. 5) A process or program of some sort seemed to be
underway since flybys progressed to landings and eventually contact.
"I wanted so badly to copy this thing. I did take a photograph of the cover
sheet, which wasn't in and of itself classified. But I didn't want to wind up
in Fort Leavenworth. So instead I would go to the bathroom and take
notes--surreptitiously, very carefully.
"I have been through an awful lot in my life, but I've never been able to
just walk away from that report. I know that I'm taking a chance by violating
my oaths. But this is the most important issue of our times--so damn
important that I can't think of anything more important, and the public has
been deceived and completely kept in the dark about all of this for all these
years. It's the biggest scientific, political scandal ever. Besides, what
have I got to lose? I'm 64 years old now. Are they going to bump me off? I
have told the truth. My integrity and credibility stand. When is our
government going to tell the truth?"
Update: After 27 years of military service, Dean retired and began another
14-year career with the Pima County Sheriff's Department Emergency Services
in Tucson, Arizona. In 1990, he gave a lecture at the University of Arizona
in which he talked about UFOs. The talk garnered local media coverage.
Afterward, he was denied a promotion at the Sheriff's Department, because, he
alleged, he believed in UFOs. Dean filed suit and won an out-of-court
settlement in March 1992. Now retired, Dean has become a member of several
UFO organizations and has begun giving occasional lectures. He is working
through "any and all legitimate channels" to uncover a copy of the NATO
document and to gather witnesses for an open Congressional hearing on the
subject of UFOs.
Official Response: "Our list of classified documents generated by SHAPE at
that time does not include any with titles similar to that cited by Mr.
Dean," says Lt. Col. Rainer Otte, German Air Force, deputy chief, media
section of the public-information office at SHAPE. "Files on military
personnel are in all circumstances kept under national control. Information
on the security clearance that Mr. Dean held may--if ever--only be released
by U.S. authorities."
The Critics' Corner: "This is a fascinating story, but fantastic claims like
these need more than one man's testimony to be credible," says Jerome Clark
(I was on the piss with him during Unconvention '95 at London University-Hermanolobo)
of the Center for UFO Studies. "Unless independent verification comes forth,
this remains only an intriguing anecdote, not unlike many others that have
circulated since the early UFO era."
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
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