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bkkz
You have to watch out for the girls on Sukhumvit sometimes, I have had my ass grabbed several times.


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Posted on: 9:52 pm on Nov. 20, 2005
Minder
From Abrak
Your wife's GFs dont sound exactly respectable. (That's what her family have said about them to!!)

90% of Thai girls that I know wouldnt be seen dead in Gulliver's or the Hard Rocks. Those sort of girls are treading the thin line between 'good time girl' and 'freelancer'.
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You are not wrong Abrak. The last thing any normal Thai girl wants is to be labelled an "easy girl". These girls "cop a lot of flak" over their "behaviour", especially from older work colleagues who see it as their duty to point out to them exactly what you are saying. The pressure to conform in Thai society is enormous.

As an aside, do you think those girls you know would "want" to go to these places but are afraid to simply for fear of irreparable reputation damage?


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Posted on: 10:04 pm on Nov. 20, 2005
kenneth
In 10+ years here I have never heard of a 'nice girl' being groped on the street, anywhere along sukhumvit, let alone a bar girl.
However, I have heard complaints from office girls of being felt up by expats at networking events at foreign chambers, in 5 star hotels in Bangkok so it must be going on.
I live on soi 10 and regularly walk with the missus to buy dvds and things along sukhumvit at all hours, so clearly there are not that many groping sex tourists hanging around.
Reckon you just ran into the wrong pervert at the wrong time Jojje.



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Posted on: 10:05 pm on Nov. 20, 2005
DaffyDuck

Quote: from Isee on 8:11 am on Nov. 21, 2005
but just because you now have regressed anger, no need to shoot the messenger because of the truth of what has been said and the good advice...


He's not 'shooting' the messenger because of what he said, but rather because he admitted to the same thing, and rationalizing it away as 'if she's close to a p4p spot, it's okay to grab her ass'... Sorry, but that makes him, in my view, pretty much pond scum.

The point that Jojje was trying to make, amongst others, is that *ANY* woman should be treated with respect - and grabbing her ass, or her pussy, is certainly not 'respect' in my book -- last I checked. That kind of behavior is uncalled for, and the sign of a boor, no matter which part of town they hapen to be in.

I'd have to agree with Yurune, that it's certainly not anyone's position to tell Thai people where they can, and cannot go... and rightfully that p4p should not be assumed, unless it is being quite clearly broadcast (like, *her* grabbing your ass is an obvious indication; her *standing* in the street, is not). Anyone else to assume the contrary just labels you as a total idiot.

Lastly, it is EXACTLY this kind of behavior (obviously rationalized by some animals) that is motivating and encouraging the Thai authorities to crack down on the farang frequented p4p spots, with early closing times, alcohol restrictions, etc... Yet, apparently, it's those same guys complaining about that.

Well, 'cause and effect', my friends... If you are the cause, then don't complain about the effects (unfortunately, many of us have to carry the burden of these morons' irresponsible behavior).


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Posted on: 11:10 pm on Nov. 20, 2005
DaffyDuck

Quote: from ItaliaThug on 9:48 am on Nov. 21, 2005
...with asses that are calling to be grabbed among other things. (...) The Thug will be back in BK grabbing asses in April.


I guess you act the same way in your home country, then, I take it?


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Posted on: 11:18 pm on Nov. 20, 2005
Abrak

Quote: from Minder on 11:42 am on Nov. 21, 2005

As an aside, do you think those girls you know would "want" to go to these places but are afraid to simply for fear of irreparable reputation damage?



The girls I know dont like the type of girls who go to these places and they dont really like the of farang who go to these places either.


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Posted on: 11:59 pm on Nov. 20, 2005
Isee

Quote: from DaffyDuck on 12:48 pm on Nov. 21, 2005
Lastly, it is EXACTLY this kind of behavior (obviously rationalized by some animals) that is motivating and encouraging the Thai authorities to crack down on the farang frequented p4p spots, with early closing times, alcohol restrictions, etc... Yet, apparently, it's those same guys complaining about that.



Yeah I suppose thats the reason for the crackdown (???) the odd *foreigner* groping some girl on the street....nothing to do with sex tourists taking thai girls up to their hotel room and f***ing them for 1000 baht...... or an expat at 500 baht because they are in the know on where to save a few baht...


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Posted on: 12:04 am on Nov. 21, 2005
Barcrawler
A few comments from an outsider, not familiar with LOS.

What Jojje describing is a sexual assault, in the West it could very well land you in court. It was not a bottom pinching or a mistaken approach and I am not surprised the girl was upset. Regardless of her status or occupation she should not have been subjected to this on a public street, a working girl may have been more resilient and been able to treat it more philosophically but that would not make it right. I can not see any excuse for this behaviour anywhere in the world.


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Posted on: 12:17 am on Nov. 21, 2005
manowar

Quote: from ItaliaThug on 3:40 pm on Nov. 20, 2005
Dude, keep legit non working girls out of Nana and Soi Cowboy. I have grabbed a few asses myself in the P4P territories. THUG

It's called "cheap thrill" and it's usually associated with "Cheap Charlie", "Cheap Shithead" and "Cheap Dickhead". The last 3 usually hang together and act like horny, drunk jungle monkeys.


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Posted on: 12:44 am on Nov. 21, 2005
Minder
Bar Crawler - Well said.

Abrak Posted on 2:37 pm on Nov. 21, 2005
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The girls I know dont like the type of girls who go to these places and they dont really like the of farang who go to these places either.
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Bingo - Abrak - and their attitude to what happened to this girl would be in the vein of "she was asking for it"!

This thread really highlights the dangers to a Thai girl in having anything to do with a visiting farang. Pick the wrong guy and when he moves on you have damaged your reputation for all time in local Thai society.

Go to a farang frequented venue and you are regarded as "treading the thin line between 'good time girl' and 'freelancer'.

And if you marry the guy.... as Abrak Posted on 10:50 am on Nov. 21, 2005
"many farang simply believe that virtually all Thais are hookers. This partly reflects their own country where a high percentage of TGs are actually ex-BGs. I know of a number of TGs who live abroad who constantly complain they are treated like hookers by both farang men and women. The media portrayal of Thais doesnt exactly help. Finally, as we know from this board, many farangs experience of Thailand is solely restrictied to p4p and they judge every TG as a BG."
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I can imagine that this girl felt that part of the reason for this "attack" was that she was with a farang and therefore "deserved" to be treated this way.

And guys wonder why they never meet any non-P4P girls when they visit Thailand. Enjoy.


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Posted on: 12:52 am on Nov. 21, 2005
     

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