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farangman4

Quote: from onera on 1:13 pm on Aug. 26, 2009
It may well be an American Police sting operation.



Do you think so? What crime? I heard that there was debate about whether to make going abroad with intent to pay for sex was to be made a crime in the US (as going abroad with the intent to have sex with minors, a very different thing in my opinion, already is), but has that actually become law?


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Posted on: 3:23 am on Aug. 26, 2009
DaffyDuck

Quote: from farangman4 on 3:23 pm on Aug. 26, 2009

Do you think so? What crime? I heard that there was debate about whether to make going abroad with intent to pay for sex was to be made a crime in the US (as going abroad with the intent to have sex with minors, a very different thing in my opinion, already is), but has that actually become law?
Yes, it has been signed into law, as far as I understand, as of January of last year (2008).

Partaking in commercial sex offerings in other countries (even if they were legal in those other countries) is now verboten for Americans - I was always curious how they could push that through, seeing as how prostitution is allowed in many States - maybe it's a protectionist measure

...and then they wonder why I maintain my non-US passport, and refuse US citizenship.


Quote: from Buai on 8:34 am on Aug. 26, 2009

Especially the bit where certain BTF members catch up with you...
Yeah, you're right - would be fun to document with them sitting around on a far away table doing absolutely nothing by use taunting language, while the sip the free beers I buy them... Maybe I could intercut the castle of French men from Monty Python's Holy Grail...


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Posted on: 9:34 am on Aug. 26, 2009
farangman4

Quote: from DaffyDuck on 9:34 pm on Aug. 26, 2009
Yes, it has been signed into law, as far as I understand, as of January of last year (2008).

Partaking in commercial sex offerings in other countries (even if they were legal in those other countries) is now verboten for Americans - I was always curious how they could push that through, seeing as how prostitution is allowed in many States - maybe it's a protectionist measure



Do you have a link for that, I've just spent 10 mins googling it and found lots about child prostitution and none about the states criminalising engaging a prostitute abroad (although this is apparently against the law for Norwegians, something I did not know before)


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Posted on: 12:06 pm on Aug. 26, 2009
cheapcharlie
This sounds more like a tv show than anything else

The Norwegian law is just a token law drawn up by feminists, it cannot be enforced. Im not Norwegian though otherwise I would change countries


The world is slowly moving toward s legalised prostitution and drugs with an opt out clause for those involved,which is much more civilised.

If it was a sting it would be for child prostitution which is a good thing, but that would never be advertised, so it can't be.

Also many countries dont allow the american way of commiting a crime to catch criminals so its impossible to prove without breaking the laws in that country.

prostitution is illegal in Thailand thats why the girls work as hostesses and any money exchange is between them and the punters.
Same goes for massage parlours you just had a massage right, and that free lancer she is your umpteenth mia noi.;)


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Posted on: 1:21 pm on Aug. 26, 2009
sai tai

Quote: from DaffyDuck on 9:34 am on Aug. 26, 2009
Partaking in commercial sex offerings in other countries (even if they were legal in those other countries) is now verboten for Americans


With the passage of the Protect Act in 2003 (part of the Patriot Act) it seems to have been clarified that sex with persons under 18 is the intent of the law.

US Dept of Justice Trafficking and Sex Tourism FAQs

http://www.usdoj.gov/criminal/ceos/trafficking_faqs.html


Title 18 Section 2423 contains the wording that makes it illegal to travel for the purpose of engaging in illicit sex...

(c) Engaging in Illicit Sexual Conduct in Foreign Places. - Any
United States citizen or alien admitted for permanent residence who
travels in foreign commerce, and engages in any illicit sexual
conduct with another person shall be fined under this title or
imprisoned not more than 30 years, or both



But Section 2423 spcifically deals with minors as defined...

(f) Definition. - As used in this section, the term "illicit
sexual conduct" means (1) a sexual act (as defined in section 2246)
with a person under 18 years of age that would be in violation of
chapter 109A if the sexual act occurred in the special maritime and
territorial jurisdiction of the United States; or (2) any
commercial sex act (as defined in section 1591) with a person under
18 years of age.

http://trac.syr.edu/laws/18/18USC02423.html



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Posted on: 8:12 pm on Aug. 26, 2009
koolbreez
In the USA prostitution is only legal in ONE state, Nevada.


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Posted on: 1:22 am on Aug. 27, 2009
StrayGypsy
enforcing criminal penalties on human trafficing and especially under age issues... rightly so!

but cracking down on consensual sex between adults free, or fee by tip or taxi money paid for while traveling/tourist/expat resident etc... I say BS !

its the rightious Femi-Nazi's wanting the punishments !

coming back home through USA customs...SFO, LAX, SEA, VNC etc.... I always choose the lines with the Men customs officers...they never ask have I been on the P4P in Thailand or want to know what I have on camera, video, or laptop... the men ask whats best about Thailand, clothing shopping buys, nature and sports recreation
.... a diferent story with the Women officiers... 1st question out of their mouths, is "do you like to party and jump many Thai girls " or "do I have many Thai ladies to see" or do you " like many pleasurable Thai lady massages"
.... my normal response is I go back and forth to Thailand for RnR to get the hell away from work, sports recreate, and party a bit....Thailand is like a cheaper CA FLA to me.... bitches ! what I really mean is
I dont like fatso American women anymore, cause its not just their pussys that STINK !
.... then I get... and "please let me see your camera, mobile, laptop, and open up your picture video files for me to scroll through" just scenery and friends here ?. never will catch xx good photos cause thier on usb thumb drive and bag searched for toys, xxx dvd's as well

PIA ! customs bee-itches !




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Posted on: 1:59 am on Aug. 27, 2009
DaffyDuck
Well, I sure am glad that there's no prostitution in Thailand, and that my girlfriends are always glad to see me.

Yeah, I know what you mean about the customs bitches -- I just made a point of telling the last one that harassed me that I enjoy vacations in countries where I don't have to deal with obese bitches with attitude - I save and savor that for my return back home. Her supervisor standing next to her nearly lost it cracking up.

Yeah, I don't deal with attitude when I'm tired, and IRL as well.

She just handed me my passport, and I sa-miled.



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Posted on: 3:08 am on Aug. 27, 2009
jumpinjack
The US Statute applies to travelling abroad for such activities with underage. Does not by statute apply to of legal age.


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Posted on: 6:23 am on Aug. 27, 2009
Loung Steeb
it looks like all the lawyers are arriving in September..(most certainly wearing their baby doll night gowns...)


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Posted on: 3:15 pm on Aug. 27, 2009
     

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