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fastmover
This is a particular problem in less developed countries.
Also where the male has predominence in the family circle.

But I cannot help wondering if the notion of prostitution
was first a business concept, and a logical career choice,
made viable by a change in social status and perception, it would at least give girls an educated approach to the profession they find themselves in.

What they learn now is second hand and often the word of others who only perpetuate the same mistakes in younger girls. Often a trial by error.

Would it be so vile to consider getting a degree at the University of Prostitution before you enter the trade?


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Posted on: 9:26 am on Sep. 17, 2004
nokna
pushing aside all the insults which have arisen and back to the original post.
a difficult thing for Mr.A to resolve.
i feel sorry for him in trying to do the right thing for such a young child.
i wish him all the luck in this situation.....


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Posted on: 10:33 am on Sep. 17, 2004
bkkz
Arramsey, here is a suggestion. Take all the money, that you'd ever spend on P4P, and use that money to send all the poor girls to school so that they get the necessary education to avoid getting into this situation. Will you be willing to do that? There would be two results here, the girls will get their education, and you won't have any more money to feed the P4P industry.


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Posted on: 5:58 pm on Sep. 17, 2004
mokewen
I wonder how many of the tg's we enthusiastically chase came from a similar background?

If we save them all, we will have nothing to chase in BKK and might all have to meet up in Tiajuana!

Perish the thought.............

moke


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Posted on: 9:36 pm on Sep. 17, 2004
Arramsey

Quote: from bkkz on 6:13 am on Sep. 18, 2004
Arramsey, here is a suggestion. Take all the money, that you'd ever spend on P4P, and use that money to send all the poor girls to school so that they get the necessary education to avoid getting into this situation. Will you be willing to do that? There would be two results here, the girls will get their education, and you won't have any more money to feed the P4P industry.




BK,
From the emoticon at the end of your post I get the impression that your post was tongue-in-cheek or in jest.
But to reply to your question - YES, If I could get a guarantee that ALL EXPLOITATION OF CHILDREN would be stopped then I would gladly give up all the money I have spent or will spend on P4P.
However - a few points :-
- I am not at all against P4P - Anyone who has read my FRs, Threads and posts will know this. As I have said many times before, sex in any manifestation is great as long as it is between consenting adults.
- I do not think that having an education will prevent a girl from going into P4P - take for example the recent news from Phrae ( a district in Northern Thailand ) where the authorities busted a sex ring run by school girls selling their bodies to local businessmen.

What saddened me is the fact that this girl has not been given the opportunity to develop her own thinking and then make the decision for herself.


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Posted on: 11:43 pm on Sep. 17, 2004
MaximusNaughtinus
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Posted on: 11:55 pm on Sep. 17, 2004
Smegma
Easy.

Arramsey as we know you cannot guarantee that all explotation of children will stop.

But you may be able to guarantee that the explotation of this one you are concerned about does. Just tell the mother you will pay her if she sends the girl to school and do not send her into P4P. Give her a bonus for good grades (this will incentivize the mother to help the daughter). Tell her that you want her to keep the girl for you for when when she gets of age (a lie of course - or maybe not).

Then a few years from now, when the girl has had the chance to go to school you sit down and talk to her and ask her what she wants. If she still wants to go into p4p, then there is nothing she can do. By now she is not a child and she would be making her own decission. And anyway you will be feeling good all this time for having helped her. if she doesn't, by now hopefully with the education she got thanks to you, she should be able to get a job and the mother would also be happy as the daughter would be able to generate some income.

And if she still wants to go into p4p, then by then you will not have any qualms on being her first customer, as we know you do not have anything against p4p.

This way all the parties are happy regardless of the outcome (p4p or no p4p for the girl). The girl gets her education. You feel good about your good deeds. The mother is happy because one way or the other the girl makes money. And who knows, you as the perverted uncle may get a first crack or a few freebies if the girl goes into p4p.

You cannot help all, but you can help this one. I am always of the opinion of helping FIRST those closer to one than those further away (e.g. charities).


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Posted on: 12:08 am on Sep. 18, 2004
Arramsey
For those who are interested - here is the up-date.
Yesterday evening I met separately with 2 Social Service Agencies ( one Thai & one Farang ).
Suprisingly the Thai Agency had a more humane and pragmatic approach so I decided to work with them.
Through my Chinese mainlander the Thai Agency will come into casual contact with this family and after building up a rapport and trust with them, the Agency will somehow entice the mother to allow the daughter to visit the Agency everyday to learn dancing, singing, art, etc. From there they will gradually try to impart an education to this girl.
This is going to be a very long process - BUT the Agency is willing to spend the time and effort, and I guess this will be a process that will not rock any boats but will still achieve the desired result to some extent.


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Posted on: 1:35 am on Sep. 19, 2004
fastmover

Quote: from fastmover on 5:04 pm on Sep. 17, 2004

May I suggest that you sponser the young girl. Pay the mother now to send the girl to school. If it is money the mother wants, then she might be happy to get it now.


Quote: from Smegma on 12:23 pm on Sep. 18, 2004
Just tell the mother you will pay her if she sends the girl to school and do not send her into P4P.


I still think quicker results are to be had by appealing to the pocketbook of the mother. But then that is a financial outlay perhaps you are not willing to make on a continuous basis.

Quote: from Arramsey on 1:50 pm on Sep. 19, 2004
to learn dancing, singing, art, etc........
My immediate thought was that geisha's receive the same kind of training, and that without real education, only the girls ability to entertain will be enhanced. Nothing like the 3 R's for real change.

Sounds like the race for her soul is on.
I must say Arramsey, at least thanks
to you, there will be a race.



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Posted on: 2:24 am on Sep. 19, 2004
Loung Steeb
Arramsey: Okay, looks like you did what you had to do and I hope things work out for the best. I recommend you now let this thing go since you can do no more and what happens-happens. I applaud your efforts and think you should sleep well tonight. Chok Dee......LS


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Posted on: 3:43 am on Sep. 19, 2004
     

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