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To me it doesnt matter if they inadvertantly od'd on heroin or it was administered by someone else. It's hard to feel any sympathy for them.
I'm a firm believer in trouble attracting trouble. Some people attract it, in the same way that Tryclops is attracted to the aura of RTB's bright light and those aren't the kind of people that you'd want to know.
If they got drunk and then od-d on crappy drugs, well... good riddance to bad rubbish. It's a shame that such trash brings sorrow to their undeserving families and a stigma on all westerners.
If foul play happened..well, again, tough luck. Nobody gets whacked for no reason. There are very few random and completely unmotivated murders, anwhere in the world.
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Posted on: 2:07 am on Aug. 10, 2005
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I would say very few Farang deaths in Thailand are due to Evil Thai influence -
Many however, are due to upsetting or offending Evil Thais !
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Posted on: 3:18 am on Aug. 10, 2005
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Broken Leg
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Quote: from scobie on 2:19 pm on Aug. 10, 2005
To me it doesnt matter if they inadvertantly od'd on heroin or it was administered by someone else. It's hard to feel any sympathy for them.
I'm a firm believer in trouble attracting trouble. Some people attract it, in the same way that Tryclops is attracted to the aura of RTB's bright light and those aren't the kind of people that you'd want to know.
If they got drunk and then od-d on crappy drugs, well... good riddance to bad rubbish. It's a shame that such trash brings sorrow to their undeserving families and a stigma on all westerners.
If foul play happened..well, again, tough luck. Nobody gets whacked for no reason. There are very few random and completely unmotivated murders, anwhere in the world.
Scobie and Daffy I was just wondering if either of you two ever tire of passing judgement on things you have no knowledge of?
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Posted on: 3:43 am on Aug. 10, 2005
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So the moral is dont use crappy drugs, or get someone else to test them first.
Then why need two guinee pigs ?, on the other hand Thailand is hardly the place you phone emergency
services and say ' hi my boyfriend and I were snorting H
and he o.d is it.
Also handy way to dispose of someone who pissed you off as there are of course never any witnesses.
That one falang od in a whole groep using and they all scarpered I can understand, but two all alone died really.
the bodies are probably already cremated so we'll never know, yes its a big bad world out there.
Meanwhile back on a pussy forum somewhere in the universe something nice was going on....
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Posted on: 5:18 am on Aug. 10, 2005
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Quote: from cheapcharlie on 5:30 pm on Aug. 10, 2005
on the other hand Thailand is hardly the place you phone emergency
services and say ' my boyfriend and I were snorting H
and he o.d is it.
Indeed, one more reason why the anti drug policy here is such a disaster... know of one precise case where an Aussie guy ODd on an explosive cocktail of hard drugs. GF apparently watched him lying unconscious (as well as cleaned up the house as there was a lot of cash and illicit stuff stuffed in there) and when she called a western friend who at last called for emergency, several hours had passed. A couple of months later the guy was still a vegetable in his hospital bed and there was the issue of who would pay the bill than I think he was transported back to Australia in the same state.
It happened during my early years in BKK, used to stay in a cheap guest house in Soi Sri Bumpen, this guy showed up next room after going through several years in a Hong Kong prison, while my other neighbour was a french guy who had just finished a jail sentence in France for heroine trafficking. We'd gone out together a few times, but within a year they were both off the map, as the french guy had died in Brazil... Some areas in Thailand really attract a big share of hardcore looners... glad I upgraded in the meantime...
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Posted on: 5:30 am on Aug. 10, 2005
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scobie
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Scobie and Daffy I was just wondering if either of you two ever tire of passing judgement on things you have no knowledge of?
Ummmmm.. no. Not really.
Do you ever tire of passing judgement on people who pass judgement? I guess I know as much about it as do you or any of the posters jumping to the conclusion it's a hit job.
Fact is, noone knows or likely will ever know what happened to these guys. But to portray them as innocent victims of evil thais just because they're farang doesnt really make sense.
They either died by screwing up some kind of binge fest, or they died by pissing off the wrong people. Either way, they're hardly innocents abroad.
Trouble begets trouble. The vast majority of people manage to avoid it in life through a combination of intelligence, street savvy and a self-preservation instinct. Others - and it seems these guys fall into that category - don't. Dog eat dog.
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Posted on: 7:26 am on Aug. 10, 2005
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Quote: from scobie on 7:38 pm on Aug. 10, 2005
Ummmmm.. no. Not really.
Do you ever tire of passing judgement on people who pass judgement? I guess I know as much about it as do you or any of the posters jumping to the conclusion it's a hit job.
I'll let you know if I ever start doing it, anyway I am glad you don't tire I actually enjoy your musings although I normally find myself laughing at you rather than with you.
Fact is, noone knows or likely will ever know what happened to these guys.
Exactly. 
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Posted on: 10:16 am on Aug. 10, 2005
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Sorry, I wasnt saying I know that this for sure was foul play, just offering an alternative to two guys getting together and snorting herion and overdosing in a bar north.
The owner of the bar would be no naieve soul living in the north.
Alot of herion passes in traffic through Chang Rai, and Chang Mai, where the Australian owed a Bar.
I know relations of my girlfriend who have reliable stories of farangs ""getting too close"" to sources and information. Who have mysteriously died the same way.
Often these guys are not even dishovelled farangs, as
writers here are quick to dismiss them as.
Wheather these guys are as is accounted for in the media or not I dont know.
One thing is certain if "'he knew alittle"" and American friends started visiting, the people who he was entrusted with silence might percieve a security threat.
Even the sister of the Australian in the next village owns a remarkable house which was built on drug money just before the crackdown.
There is a well known high ranking army officer connected to the family, and he escaped the purge.
Herion passes sometimes through the road blocks of near MAE SAI, from the Golden triangle, after money is paid, and/or a decoy sacarfice is made, usually an amount like a few kilos, set up on a mule (a carrier of low intelligence) a much bigger amount is then passed through and deverted pass Chang rai highway across to Chang mai, avoiding the usual Bangkok route.
This is information that is with long time people who are in the ""know"" common.
Farangs often open bars and drink alot "'learn alot""
I myself wouldnt disclose in person "'things that I knew""
But some do.
They also sometimes use themselves (farangs) but its unlikely our boy north would snort the stuff.
Herion isnt snorted as a rule, as unlike cocaine it can quickly stop the heart doing it that way as a massive affect. The other consideration would be its purity being high.
But lets assume they were stupid enough to do so.
The odds are still that one would observe immediately that the dose was going to be fatal in the first persons attempt. And withdraw his actions.
The guy would be well aware of the herions potentency.
He indeed might have tried to get some ""action"' and made connections nervous.
This has happened with Farangs alot over 20 years in these parts.
Police who are sometimes given ""large amounts of blind eye money"" are quick to protect the trade.
Its relatively easy to make it look like a binge and overdose them on herion, remove the threat of talk.
We and the world in a shallow little square goes in this hole mentality by large conclude the media coverage is as discribed.
But to me its sounding all to suspect, and I reserve my judgement,
But if I were forced to decide, I would easily lean towards foul play.
Its not as Jingo says as safe as many think in Thailand (this applies more so in the north, especially away from the masses )
There are so many accounts from long term farang residents that speak of the need to not getting ""involved "' in activities with many individuals.
Remember when there is a kilo of herion bought for $300 US dollars 3 hours drive away in the GOLDEN TRIANGLE region, and can be resold to a ''farang bar owner (especially if he knows the police wont act and are involved) for $ 10,000 US "" who then distributes it to dealers and again makes $5000 profit. The temptation is there.
But worse ""learning about a big movement"
And then having a friend from the states fly in, can be lethal.
Go for it, believe as you will.
But only an extremely naieve person would discount the above possibilities when we already know the Golden triangle is up the road, corruption, and the very fact herion (not usually snorted ) stopped these guys mouths from moving further.
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Posted on: 6:19 pm on Aug. 10, 2005
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DaffyDuck
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Quote: from Finchy on 1:09 pm on Aug. 10, 2005
Not all farang deaths are due to evil Thai influences.
Right --- but most farang deaths can probably be attributed to dumb farangs. (read: 'most' not 'all')
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Posted on: 7:47 pm on Aug. 10, 2005
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