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Smegma,
Not emotional - just simply caustic - but then you might know something about that? 
And no greater or less expectations in cyberspace than from a straightforward 'first date'/meeting, thank you.
cg,
Never a problem with difference of opinion, but with misinterpretation/misrepresentation and foolhardy ignorance.
But you are spot on - 'nuff time wasted.
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 4:29 am on Sep. 17, 2004
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Hugh Jardon
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So the only agreement that Dr. Love gets from other Bros, is along the lines that these two guys, Ciao Ciao and me doth protest too much, therefore we must both be worried about the feelings that our girls have for us. Really strong argument, eh?
So what do I do to counter that one? Carry on arguing  and reinforce their belief that I must be more seriously worried about my girl than they thought? No. I try to expose the flaws in his reasoning instead, because there are also other guys like Ciao Ciao and Babysnake out there that are having similar experiences. And it is far better to compare notes with them than with some cynical and probably bitter guy who doesn't counter our arguments apparently from personal experience of the dating scene with non BG Thai girls, so his opinions are only conjecture on his part anyway.
I'm glad Dr. Love that your BG's tell you that they love you within 2 minutes of being with you. You must be quite some stud or maybe a "hansum" man or you're paying them too much. Or perhaps it only takes two minutes to shoot your load and that's the moment that she feels she needs to massage your ego by telling you what a great performer you were so that you'll give her a good tip. Now perhaps if you were in daily contact with even that BG for several months and she told you she loved you then, maybe you might start to believe it. But lets not bring BG's and your experiences of them into this. That's a bit like a Vegetarian discussing the merits of meat that they've never tasted.
And yes, of course I asked her why she liked me out of all the 43 guys that wrote to her from the dating site; and was satisfied with her answer. In the same way that she asked me why I liked her and I told her honestly too. You seem to find it hard to grasp that both Ciao Ciao and me have both explained several times the sort of relationships that have developed between us and our girls. I would imagine that Babysnake has also enough information gleaned from his long correspondence to know enough about his girl too and to make a judgement call on her, even before they have met. But this is the crux of the matter. When we meet, the chemistry might not be there. So what? I'll just have to shrug my shoulders and move on. But a cynical guy like you wouldn't even try anything like this for fear of failure.
There is also a thread running on Bangkok Tonight about whether guys who go to Thailand get ribbed by their mates. Well, there ought to be another thread, or this might develop into it, discussing whether guys that go on dating sites looking for love are sad individuals who can't find love any other way. So don't try and label us as such and I won't tell you that the only way that you can get your end away is by paying some BG, as no sensible girl would look at you twice.
So, go out tonight, screw some BG and gloat about it if that makes you feel good. We're not in LOS. When we get there, we can go and see the girls we're writing to or go out screwing BG's. We have choices. You will eventually feel increasingly bitter and cynical, because your relationships are based solely on shallow and superficial carnal desires. Ours are based on hopes of better more substantial things
By the way, just how old are you anyway to mention Brylcream?  Probably older than me. I never use the stuff, it was already out of fashion before I was a teenager. Although you inferred that my girl was too young at 26, you never did say how old you thought she ought to be to have a maximum chance of success with her.
Like Ciao Ciao, unless you have anything constructive to say based on experience of this sort of thing, then there really is no point in going around in circles. 
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Posted on: 6:44 am on Sep. 17, 2004
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again I say whatever the issues are about what HJ wants,he is doing what he wants.
i'm sure he has had his share of BG's in the past but now wants something a bit more permanent.
there are many Members who have met TG's wether they be BG's or not and settled with them.
he may have many problems whenever he goes to meet the Girls and may find out it is not all a bed of roses.
yes the Girls may be stringing him along by having other People write the Mails or sending Pix of other Girls.
but only he can learn from what will happen.
he will soon learn if he has been scammed or if he has met a genuine Girl.
i think this situation should take it's course and whenever he meets the Girls then he can tell us the final story.
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 10:25 am on Sep. 17, 2004
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TJ
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Quote: from Hugh Jardon on 5:42 am on Sep. 16, 2004
...The girl that I really like the best is gorgeous, quite the prettiest Thai girl that I've ever seen and she's just 26. The other two are also stunners and both 32, well educated and good jobs. I'm 55. Both of the 32 year olds love Cyber sex, neither having done it before. I'm pretty sure that one would even do it with her webcam on.
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I asked if she liked French kissing and it went on from there to a conclusion about an hour later, including everything that I've ever done with a bargirl! Once started, this shy, modest girl was totally uninhibited.
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during that first session she'd given herself 2 orgasms! Since then, she has initiated further sessions twice since. The soapy massage in the shower was a particularly memorable one!
This cracks me up. Not that it was done, but how seriously it's taken.
1. What makes you so sure this is even a female? Showing you photos of a female does not mean that the person you're talking to is a female. (use of a webcam can ameliorate this issue to some extent ) Which leads me to
2. If it is a female, why is it necessarily the female shown in the pictures, and not some 200lb girl addicted to Kentucky Fried Chicken and Pizza Hut?
Roleplaying is fun. It might be fun for them because they're genuinely getting off on your sexual commentary (ignoring for now whether or not they would actually ever meet you ). Or it may be fun because they and their friends gather around the terminal and string you along, laughing at all your sex talk, and thinking up new and entertaining things to throw your way: "including everything that I've ever done with a bargirl!"
Imagine that.
Enjoy yourself - but to take this seriously is (at the least ) questionable, up to the point that you actually do meet them in person.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Sexy Bangkok Girls
Posted on: 12:55 pm on Sep. 17, 2004
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DrLove
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I'm glad Dr. Love that your BG's tell you that they love you within 2 minutes of being with you. You must be quite some stud or maybe a "hansum" man or you're paying them too much
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Dear Hugh,
You made another misjudgement and assumption. I don't sleep with bargirls.
I have a longtime girlfriend, who does all her chorus with a smile without being paid for it.
As a 22 year Thailand veteran I speak the language fluently and know Thai society inside out.
And yes, I had my experience with cybergirls too.
BTW Chickengeorge, another thumbs up from me. Nicely said. Also TJ, heads up!
And no, I am much younger than you. But my father used Brylcream.... so that explains my knowledge. Did you have a father?
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 2:22 pm on Sep. 17, 2004
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Smegma
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I remember being once in an internet cafe and seeing a girl carrying a chat session with a webcam. While the cam was on her, the one typing was another girl next to her.
There is an internet cafe frequented by BGs from Nana, where there is a group of female staff that are always there helping the BGs that do not speak english with all their email and their chat sessions.
When I was living in the USA and I first started to chat in the net, I got so frustrated that there were about 10 guys for each woman wanting to chat, and thus so difficult to engage one, that I decided to play the role of a woman for the fun of it. I would send pics of tv starlets (from countries they would not recognize). I got a copuple of guys ready to jump on a plane to go see me. I always had a big laugh when at the end I would open the mic connection (I always used to say I was shy or that I didn't have a mic) and they heard my voice.
I am not saying that it is going to happen to you guys. But just that, again, keep your expectations in check. The odds are against you.
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Bangkok Women : Meet Beautiful Thai Girls
Posted on: 8:19 pm on Sep. 17, 2004
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caronte
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" I always had a big laugh when at the end I would open the mic connection (I always used to say I was shy or that I didn't have a mic) and they heard my voice. "
Smegma, you are sick bastard, but a funny one!
I know the feeling cuz I was once with a friend who was engaged in a very hot chat just to realise at the end that the "girl" was actually a guy fooling ppl around (was that you perhaps???)....the look on his face was one of those things Iwill never forget!
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 10:20 pm on Sep. 17, 2004
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Hugh Jardon
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I was going to let this thing drop, as you will have seen from my saying that unless anybody had something constructive to say from experience of the dating scene then there was no point in continuing. But Dr. Love's last post deserves a response, because of the last line, which was totally uncalled for.
You Sir, are obviously a c_nt.
Yes, I did know my father. Are you sure that the guy with the Brylcreamed hair was indeed your Daddy?
Apologies if I jumped to the wrong conclusion about you going with BG's. But it was an easy assumption to make based on what you said before.
Dr. Love
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That's what some girls said to me within 2 minutes... and then even when we really met!
CG, are you on the RT tonight. Afterwards we might experience some real flesh instead of CC's and HJ's cyberflesh...
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So either your memories of what BG's said is well in the past and you are also talking about screwing your long time G/f after the RT meeting, or else you do indulge in a bit on the side with BG's. I'm sure that other Bros who go on these RT binges with you can verify whether the good Doc is well behaved in that respect, or a hypocrite.
He has also had Cyber too, but I actually asked whether he had experienced the internet dating scene. This is the trouble with the good Doc. His comprehension skills are somewhat poor.
I'm grateful for the concern expressed by other Bros and their points are well made and based on their own experience. But it needs to be stressed once again that I am talking about an internet dating situation stretching to over 6 months by the time I meet these girls. This is not the same as cyber sex on a chat site. I'll take on board what has been said, but I'm a big boy and do take things with a pinch of salt. I had indicated that I've done this same thing before and the two girls that I visited before were both exactly what I perceived them to be and what they said that they were.
So unless there is anybody with experience of the dating scene with constructive help to offer, then I think that this has gone on long enough. I don't want to end up labelled a pedant, as chickengeorge describes Dr. Love. Smegma obviously has nothing much good to say about him either and if the Doc's standard ploy is to question the parenthood of anybody that has a difference of opinion with him, then that would hardly be an endearing personality trait, would it?
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Thai Girls : Meet Active Thai Girls
Posted on: 4:18 am on Sep. 18, 2004
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DrLove
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I guess I am not invited to the wedding of Hugh and his cybercutie.... 
Hugh, perhaps you might read CG and Smegs posts again. They were in line with my initial remark and not against me.... Plus you shouldn't believe everything Smegs write, because actually he loves me too much. But as you're so naive... don't stop worrying about the feelings which these girls have for you two pathetic wursts.
And I didn't ask if you know your daddy. I asked if you had one. And yes, I am sure it was my dad. He had the same handsome looks as me...
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 7:10 am on Sep. 18, 2004
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DrLove
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I received an PM from dear Hugh in which he complains about some of his unanswered questions and his continued confidence that I am a hyprocrite who bullsh_ts on his girlfriend...
I could handle this by PM, but this is much more enjoyable.....:
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Message title: Your last inane post
I'm not going to continue this online. It is just getting too absurd. But just to put you in order, what I meant about CG and Smegs posts, was that one said that you took the term pedantic to new previously unchartered territories and the other said that he usually disagreed with and disliked your posts. Whether there is any validity in your arguments or not, you seem to have this gift of getting right up peoples' noses, don't you?
As for being naive, I did say that I was going into this with my eyes wide open and have had experience of the dating scene before with Thai girls. For all your claim to know the Thai people inside out, you don't even seem to be able to carry on a discourse with your own race very well.
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I think you drifted a little from my original observation, as noted correctly by ChickenGeorge, Smegma and some other members who sent me PMs.
It's not a matter of not being able to carry on a discourse with my own race very well, it's just a simple matter of opinion.
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I assure you that I am not in the slightest bit worried about either of these girls. If it all works out, then I'm quids in. If not, then what have I lost? Internet dating and the correspondence with these lovely girls is actually fun. It's going to be hard enough choosing between them as it is. If one of them turns out to be not what she claims to be, then it will simplify things greatly, won't it? As to which of us is pathetic, don't you think that you cut a pathetic figure going out to these RT meetings when you have a long term G/F?
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I just, like some other members, had the feeling you felt very proud to have hooked up with a very pretty 26 year old while actually you have nothing (even after exchanging email, pictures and the likes).
And I am also at a loss with your last remark. Do I cut a pathetic figure by meeting up with other members even if I have a longtime G/F? What a bull...... This proofs to me that your brain cells are gradually losing their grip... even at 55.
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And what is this ludicrous stuff about did I have a father? Let's examine the alternatives shall we? It is biologically impossible for me to exist without having a father, unless I am the second Christ from a virgin birth, or unless I was a test tube baby and even then technically I would have a biological father. So which one is it, or are you unable to explain yourself in plain concise English? No, your comment was nasty and vindictive and everybody that read it knows precisely what you meant.
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The first remark was just loose.... your father probably also used it.... But, again, you got emotional and yes, I have a talent of getting up in people's noses especially yours.
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And so to the questions that you either ignored, forgot to answer. or couldn't answer for fear of incrimination, plus an additional one that might have some bearing on your attitudes.
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No, none of these reasons. I just think there is no real value to the board to answer them.
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So what age do you consider a Thai girl should be for a relationship with a 55 year old guy?
Do you really believe that no nice, decent woman should indulge in cyber sex, even if a relationship has developed to that stage between the couple over a reasonable period of time?
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Thai girls are by nature quite shy and don't liked to be touched (expect for a 'couple' of p4p girls and loose students). That probably explains why there are still millions of 30 year old virgins in Thailand. Girls on dating sites, MSN and the likes are either bargirls trying to hook up with naive twats like you, ladyboys or girls who still have the idea that farangs are all rich and are their passport to an easy life with unlimited supplies for their parents and other vultures.
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So you've admitted cybering yourself. Did you consider the girl that you cybered with to be nice and decent? If not, then what do you think that it says about you and about your niceness and decency?
What experience do you have of internet dating with Thai girls?
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I installed MSN (which also used with communicating with a very dear member) and Windows Messenger.
Within no time I had around 10 or more new contacts (per day) with my profile 'succesful business man living in Bangkok....)
I won't bother you with a lot of descriptions but give you
a few:
- Girl A - 'I am sitting here in a cybercafe. My friend has thrown me out of the apartment and I have no money'.
Do you know some way to earn me some money?'
- Girl B - 'I am a lonely girl and look for a nice guy like you. Do you want my picture? Then we can meet sometimes for dinner? I am always hungry. Tomorrow?
(After receiving her picture, it seemed she was a big ugly fat girl. At least she was honest)
-Girl C 'I am a lonely sexy pretty girl from Penang'. Can you send me some pictures of your cock and I will send you some pictures of my pussy?'
(Well, you guessed it, this relation didn't last long).
-Girl D 'I run a dating agency here in Bangkok. Maybe you can help me in setting up my business'.
(I actually met this girl because she was quite funny and her picture was ok. We had dinner and went to see a movie '2 Fast, 2 Furious'. Any comment is superfluous).
I removed these programs from my hard disk. It seemed the cybercuties also came though my monitor even if my status was offline. Also a few girls told me why they were online.... the reasons I've given in earlier posts.
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So you go out with the RT lot, but never indulge in P4P, eh? You're totally faithful to your G/F, eh?
Is she, or has she ever been involved in the sex industry?
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Another of your fabulous questions? (Can you imagine why I don't answer all your questions). So I can
not go out with the gang without being faithful to my G/F? Perhaps some members can testify that I never indulge in kissing or fondling girls. Perhaps you can call me jaded. I have enough humour and language skills to entertain myself in other ways.
Also, I don't see the second question related to the threat. So do you mind if I don't answer that one too?
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I await your replies with bated breath. I'm sure that they will make illuminating reading to such a naive individual as myself.
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As you're confident that these answers make illuminating reading, I decided to answer them out in the open.
Regards,
DrLove
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
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