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Minder
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Quack Quack,
Good post and I'll give you my Psych 101 on "Why" do some punters want to "rescue" a woman in the first place.
Some research shows that males raised by a single parent, which is usually the mother, tend to gravitate toward "rescue" orientated professions - emergency services, Police, Ambulance, Fire Brigade and the military. Sub-consciously drawn to that role by wanting to "rescue" a woman - their "mother" - from a less than fortunate life - aka the life that they saw she had raising them alone.
I didn't think much of the research at the time of reading it as it was hardlly in what I'd have called a credible journal - however 20 years on and most emergency service and military types I have gotten to know well enough to know details of their childhood do, broadly, fit the bill. In some cases where the father was not absent, he was a negative influence and abusive to the mother - which again has been shown to instill the "rescue fixation".
Plenty of punters you meet in bars and through reading posts here that detail the backgrounds of various members you do notice a high percentage of what I guess you could call the "rescue orientated career stereotype". The handful of sponsors I have known also fit the bill.
The average BG, usually a single mother does offer a chance to fulfill that unconscious desire.
Of course, other factors play a part in career selection, single parent families might not have the resources to send their children on to higher education, so military service and emergency services, etc could be the next best alternative.
Just some two cents and hardly conclusive but it offers food for thought about whether you are witnessing a white knight on a majestic stead rescuing unknown damsels or a little boy with a stick wanting to protect his mother.
Enjoy.
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 10:59 pm on Dec. 18, 2006
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ThaidUp
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Quote: from Minder on 1:23 pm on Dec. 19, 2006
The average BG, usually a single mother does offer a chance to fulfill that unconscious desire.
Thanks Minder, I always wanted to know the origins of Mother f***er.
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Bangkok Women : Meet Sensual Bangkok Women
Posted on: 11:45 pm on Dec. 18, 2006
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Oz
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Shit, and I thought it was all about sex. Guess I just looked too deeply into it!
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 11:50 pm on Dec. 18, 2006
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MickTheKick
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Quote: from quack quack on 11:58 am on Dec. 19, 2006
Just a question to all you guys; is it an illusion of love, or, does 'love' come about because you tend to feel sorry for these ladies?
I guess it's all this and even more... Yes, there's some point in what you say and you're probably right about some classical sponsors mindset.
But do you think there is no psycho drive involved in the hardened "I-never-fall-in-love" strategy ??? LOL Talk about fears, hehe. Ever heard of good ol' Oedipus?
I'm too old to fall for the stupid egoistic concept of "rescuing someone", and I'm too old to fall for illusions any more... I learned to face the facts of life and therefore I think that I truly love my few regulars in a certain way... A way different from the way I love my wife, but nevertheless a way of true love...
Don't try to make love a brain thing - it doesn't work. There's no love besides the loving heart... You just have to smart up your feelings and your loving heart, but this is what comes with personal growth anyway...
For all who want to analyze and explain love I quote a poem from German poet Erich Fried which I have posted already years ago in one of my first postings on the forum when I faced love for a bargirl for the first time: The bro's help in the threads discussion those days was more than helpful for me...
The poem is a good answer to these problems but no help at all:
What it is
It is nonsense, says reason
It is what it is, says love
It is misfortune, says expedience
It is nothing but pain, says fear
It is hopeless, says comprehension
It is what it is, says love
It is ridiculous, says pride
It is careless, says carefulness
It is impossible, says experience
It is what it is, says love
Since this is just my amateur translation here's the original:
Was es ist
Es ist Unsinn, sagt die Vernunft
Es ist was es ist, sagt die Liebe
Es ist Unglück, sagt die Berechnung
Es ist nichts als Schmerz, sagt die Angst
Es ist aussichtslos, sagt die Einsicht
Es ist was es ist, sagt die Liebe
Es ist lächerlich, sagt der Stolz
Es ist leichtsinnig, sagt die Vorsicht
Es ist unmöglich, sagt die Erfahrung
Es ist was es ist, sagt die Liebe
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Posted on: 12:12 am on Dec. 19, 2006
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DaffyDuck
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Quote: from quack quack on 11:58 am on Dec. 19, 2006
Just a question to all you guys; is it an illusion of love, or, does ‘love’ come about because you tend to feel sorry for these ladies?
If your motivation is 'feeling sorry for the ladies', then you're not experiencing 'love'.
Why no 'love' from non-western punters? Because 'love' as you know and think to experience it, is uniquely a western concept, and one borne from, precisely, an illusion (or rather, delusion) - a recently-invented abstraction, dating back to courtly Europe during or after the middle ages. (Mind you, I am talking about the concept of Romantic 'love' that you're all familiar with - different concepts of 'love' have existed for millenia prior to western middle-ages, obviously).
Essentially, our culture has been sold a bill of goods, that most of us have willingly absorbed without questioning, while at the same time not comprehending our agonies over it when the reality doesn't live up to the delusion, or when a different culture differs from our concept.
MickTheKick, our eternal romantic, proposes a poem as the answer: "It is what it is, says love" - this rings like the usual teenage girl response when told about the foolishness of some or another course of action: "Well, I won't know, unless I do it. I need to make my own mistakes" (this is usually quickly followed by anguish).
In the end, it comes down to an issue of Emotional Maturity - if you have the maturity of a 12-year old teenage girl, you'll tend to 'fall in love' (and you will undoubtedly defend it as a good thing) with anything that doesn't kick you continuously; those with the needed emotional maturity to deal with 'love' will do just fine.
Quote: from Minder on 1:23 pm on Dec. 19, 2006
or a little boy with a stick wanting to protect his mother
Minder pretty much summarized it.
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 2:52 am on Dec. 19, 2006
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MickTheKick
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Quote: from DaffyDuck on 5:16 pm on Dec. 19, 2006
MickTheKick, our eternal romantic
I like that 
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Posted on: 3:23 am on Dec. 19, 2006
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Sporadic
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I will cop to a certain desire to at least be "decent" with the ladies. Not judging them, but enjoying them.
I think everyone enjoys being appreciated if not "loved" and I am sure that has something to do with it.
The pure "rescue" types are probably as rare as the pure "love" types, but we all probably have little bits of those emotions one time or another.
I also find myself appreciating a lady who is making a real effort to make me happy (remembering her prime motivation, of course) and I suppose some could confuse fondness and appreciation with love.
I had a WG GF for over a year, and finally discovered/remembered that she had a strong resemblance to a girl I liked 30 years before.
Purely a physical reaction on my part, but quite real.
I have also met some WG´s that I really admire. Work ethic, trying to improve their lot, supporting a family etc. in the best way they can, under difficult circumstances, yet never losing their humanity.
Love? No.
Admiration, gratitude and fondness? Yes.
YMMV.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 4:30 am on Dec. 19, 2006
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thailife
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this is all crap. we do it because we are in our 40's and 50's and we can get a 20 year old girl that is pretty and actually pays attention to us. that's it.
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Thai Girls : Meet Active Thai Girls
Posted on: 6:30 am on Dec. 19, 2006
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Sporadic
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Good for you, but please do not speak for me.
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 9:17 am on Dec. 19, 2006
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seajohn
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Quote: from Sporadic on 6:54 pm on Dec. 19, 2006
and finally discovered/remembered that she had a strong resemblance to a girl I liked 30 years before.
Did that have an effect on the relationship, or in what way? Sorry to probe. I comprehend that it's no longer happening with you and that one. Was that a major expression of realizing its demise?
Sorry, I just thought that was an interesting comment. In love relationships I often perceive what I believe to be simularities to qualities or opposites from the past in current lovers, or extensions thereof. Especially in moments of stress 555....... Something totally new probably wouldn't exist unless it had been my very first relationship--the mind never stops its tricks.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 9:47 am on Dec. 19, 2006
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