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mm3
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The first letter is from an Australian female and the 2nd letter is a response, both printed in the Nation. IMO, the response is really spot on.
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Charm goes a lot further than money with women
Published on November 01, 2004
Just to add fuel to the preposterous dialogue on the “purchase of a woman’s beauty” as postulated by some letter writers, I would like to include an excerpt from an email sent from a beautiful female friend after a visit to Pattaya. Cheers fellas:
“It was then time for the drive around the streets of Pattaya – imagine a King’s Cross by the beach that is the size of Parramatta! I found myself ashamedly jabbering on to my Thai hosts about the fact that all Westerners are not like those found on the streets of this place. At least there are few Western women among them, it’s all men, the ugliest, oldest, most socially ungracious toads of men you will find, with the audacity to swagger along with a beautiful prostitute as if they were somehow the preferred and chosen company of that woman and not the disgusting specimen of a penis with a wallet that they are.
“We left just in time as I already had my window down ready to give one of these cockroaches (no, a cockroach has too much dignity for this comparison) a carefully worded vial of poisonous language. I tried to curb my judgmental nature by reminding myself that these men are so entirely unblessed with charm that they have no choice but to pay for the company of women but it didn’t work, a machine-gun could not have done the job I wanted to do quickly enough.”
PS I am an Australian model and would like to say that I have had boyfriends from a range of socio-economic levels, as has the friend of mine who wrote the above observation. What too many men don’t understand is that there are men of charm in this world who don’t require money to enjoy the company of beautiful women.
Anne
Bangkok
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Why was alleged Aussie model so angry at Pattaya cockroaches’?
Published on November 03, 2004
As an amateur anthropologist, I found the letter “Charm goes a lot further than money with woman” (Letters, November 1) of interest for what it says about the attitudes of Western women towards prostitution in Thailand.
What is noteworthy is not the author’s commentary on the men who visit prostitutes (which is certainly neither new nor original), but rather the anger that she directs towards them. The violent level of that anger can be seen, for example, in her stated desire to shout vulgarities at these men (whom she calls “cockroaches” for good measure) in a manner in which “a machine-gun could not have done the job I wanted to do quickly enough”.
The real question that I had in reading the letter is: “What is she so angry about?”. I came up with the answer with the aid of a few rather basic research methods. The major clue is the emphasis that she places on the great physical beauty of herself (a self-described Australian model) and her “beautiful female friend”, who is equally incensed by Western cockroach-like men.
I would venture that what this Australian model is so angry about is the altered relationship in power between males and females that she has witnessed in Pattaya. Being a model (if she is really not some middle-aged Australian housewife in disguise, as I rather suspect), she is no doubt accustomed to the power that comes with her looks, in which worthy males must prove themselves to be “men of charm”, by her definition, in order to be granted the privilege of her company. In a situation like Pattaya, however, for the price perhaps of a sushi and a cup of cappuccino at Narita airport, a man can have the company of a woman of equal beauty (and for the price of two sushis, perhaps double the beauty) of an Australian model. If the letter writer’s social opportunities (and indeed, as a model, her very livelihood) are based upon her appearance, it is little wonder that she should be infuriated that in Pattaya, looks like hers come at so cheap a price. (Were – by way of example – this a case of cheaply sold pirated DVDs, a legal case would have been brought a long time ago.) What she does not seem to understand (or rather chooses not to express) is that the word “charm” in her letter is really a polite word for either money or good looks. She states that she has had boyfriends of differing levels of socio-economic status. One wonders how many of them were ugly. The truth is that if a guy is too fat or too short or too ugly, with all the charm in the world, he would not be going out with an Australian model or her “beautiful female friend”, although he may well be able to afford a plate of sushi and a cup of cappuccino at Narita airport. Therefore, it is neither surprising that the author and her “beautiful female friend” want to hold on to their privileges nor that the men in Pattaya – like cockroaches the world round--- do what they can in order to survive and further their species.
Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Insects
Chiang Mai
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 11:53 pm on Nov. 2, 2004
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thaiaficionado
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She's just being vindictive because she came to Pattaya and couldn't get laid, not even by cockroaches.
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Bangkok Women : Meet Sensual Bangkok Women
Posted on: 12:52 am on Nov. 3, 2004
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hzink
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Seems like a pretty accurate illustration, and explanation, of western women's attitudes about the Thailand 'scene'.
On the other hand, I know plenty of women that absolutely LOVE Thailand and vacationing there (though I don't know how little or much they know about the nightlife)
Harry
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 1:04 am on Nov. 3, 2004
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Big W
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GOLD!!
absoloutly fantastic reply
W
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Sexy Bangkok Girls
Posted on: 2:16 am on Nov. 3, 2004
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French Goat
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http://www.thaibugs.com/Articles/roach.html
Male cockroaches transfer sperm to females in a "gift-wrapped" package called a spermatophore. Some males cover the package in a protein-rich wrapping that the female can eat to obtain nutrients to raise her young. Delicious!
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Female cockroaches prefer males at the bottom of the social pecking order, and dominant males try and stop them from having their way.
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Scientists claim some female cockroaches prefer weaker partners because they like gentle sex.
A University of Manchester team has concluded stronger male cockroaches are too aggressive and often injure their partners.
My guess is that the "Australian model" didn't find a gentle cockroach willing to feed her appropriately. In the LOS, cockroaches are all of the dominant type!
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 2:33 am on Nov. 3, 2004
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French Goat
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Quote: from mm3 on 1:17 pm on Nov. 3, 2004
... and not the disgusting specimen of a penis with a wallet that they are.
In french, the word "bourse" can mean "purse", but is also the place where testicles are "stored" (scrotum)... so, it's really a penis' wallet, in a way!
PS: "Bourse" is also the stock exchange's name in Paris, amazing, isn't it!?
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Bangkok Women : Meet Beautiful Thai Girls
Posted on: 2:56 am on Nov. 3, 2004
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ThaidUp
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I agree. The response could have not been better. I hope she was able to read it. That should really piss her off.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 3:10 am on Nov. 3, 2004
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Abrak
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This thread reminds me of a letter that was sent to Mangosauce:
You guys are all sick f***s. The only reason you are lucky with Thai ladies is because they want nothing more than your money. They don’t care how ugly you are they only think in the dollar bills that are heading their way once you touch them. You are considered lucky here because you have more money than they do but guess what don’t expect to be leaving the country without a baby, a Thai woman their family and shit loadz of STD's. Have fun guys. f*** all you can but don’t you f***ing dare to put us FARANG girls down!!!!!
I forgot to mention I love living here in Thailand and every day I think about those poor Thai girls that are forced to be prostitutes cause they need to support their family by f***ing all these ugly horrible farang men (I am a happy farang girl in a happy relationship with a nice farang man). Oh and by the way how come I do get lots of stares by white man seems like they do miss the whites – Claire.
And the editor's reply:
We don’t want to put you down, Claire. It’s just that most of us prefer a different kind of woman. Even if you were naked and covered in baby oil, most fellas would climb over 10 foul-mouthed girls like you just for the chance to meet one polite fully-clothed Thai woman.
Incidentally, good luck with your "happy relationship" and the admiring glances – with an attitude like that, you’ll certainly need it.
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Thai Girls : Meet Active Thai Girls
Posted on: 3:43 am on Nov. 3, 2004
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buxeda
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and her husband in her "happy relationship"goes to a mp twice a week... 55555
well, it is not me giving admiring glances to farang girls in bkk. you know, I only scored 425 on the kinky test, so that might be the explanation.
best regards,
el gringo loco
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 4:55 am on Nov. 3, 2004
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DrLove
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I rather pay for something I want than get something for free I don't want.... But then again...
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 4:59 am on Nov. 3, 2004
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