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latitude
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I have a good friend working in a MP in Bangkok that has decided to go to Switzerland to work for three months. A friend at the MP told her that it was a good way to make a lot of money and she would return with a million Baht. So, she has given an agent 50,000 Baht to make the arrangements and then she has to come up with money for the air ticket.
It seems very shady to me. I understand she is desperate for cash and does not want to work the MP forever. But being shipped to a foreign land with no escape, language barriers, and potentially the inability to even leave the brothel during her stay there seems unsafe. She has no idea where she will even work or what the conditions are.
It seems like human trafficking to me. If something goes wrong or if she is put in a bad situation she will have no recourse. They could even feasibly keep her there for as long as they want.
Has anyone heard of any experiences with this kind of arrangement?
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Posted on: 12:04 am on Jan. 15, 2005
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james bond
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latitude,
it's happening in london to, the mafia are bringing them over to work, they will not be able to leave the premises, not just thai girls but russian aswell, sadly these ladys do not know what there getting them selves into.
take care,
bond, james bond.
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Posted on: 2:26 am on Jan. 15, 2005
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thaiaficionado
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I knew a girl who's room mate was doing that, she worked in an MP also, but I didn't hear about the final outcome. I know there are some bars in Zurich where girls could make lots of money. Could be a good summer gig, before it gets cold. I don't think it's necessarily shady, since prostitution is open and legal there, it could be entirely legit. I would be more suspicious for countries where prostitution is illegal and girls have no legal protection without the fear of deportation. Not sure of Swiss immigration laws however, just know they let me in, so they can't be too particular 
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Posted on: 3:10 am on Jan. 15, 2005
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latitude
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In Switzerland (like many other European countries) it is illegal to engage in prostitution if you are not a Swiss citizen. So the girls do face the risk of deportation and potentially other penalties. This is one thing that makes their situation precarious and dangerous. They are afraid to go to the authorities if there is a problem because what they are doing is illegal. The business owners know this and can use it to their advantage. My friend told me that they will not let her leave the place of business, making her a prisoner in my book.
I have yet to hear of an experience from someone who has done this -- except for the recruiters, and I don't really trust their reports.
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Posted on: 11:48 am on Jan. 15, 2005
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expatchuck
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I know a girl that went to Switzerland several times and ended up with a house in BKK, a house for her mother up-country and a BMW.
She worked out of an escort agency and was most attractive. I know nothing about her visa or how she went about getting it.
I have basically told you all I know.
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Posted on: 5:18 am on Jan. 16, 2005
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Frank La Rue
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Quote: from latitude on 12:42 am on Jan. 16, 2005
In Switzerland (like many other European countries) it is illegal to engage in prostitution if you are not a Swiss citizen. So the girls do face the risk of deportation and potentially other penalties. This is one thing that makes their situation precarious and dangerous. They are afraid to go to the authorities if there is a problem because what they are doing is illegal. The business owners know this and can use it to their advantage. My friend told me that they will not let her leave the place of business, making her a prisoner in my book.
I have yet to hear of an experience from someone who has done this -- except for the recruiters, and I don't really trust their reports.
If the organiszers will NOT let your friend leave the premisses, it probably means they will insist on having her passport as a guarantee for the money she owe them for transfer and ticket etc. THAT sounds very dodgy to me.
Yes, escorts can make good money, but an arrangement with a brothel where they eat, sleep and work with no escape? Not good.
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Posted on: 6:13 am on Jan. 16, 2005
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griffin
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many tg's there and most of them are either working in establishments or do freelancing! or settle with a local swiss, which will be the ultimate lottery win!
i do know some who did it, half of them did make very decent money others soso! none of them had any bad experiences!
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Posted on: 9:28 am on Jan. 16, 2005
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nokna
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18 Months ago I posted a series of FR's about when I visited an ex-member of this Board.
he lived in Basle and was friends with some of the Thai'Madams'.
there is an area in the Town which was full of Thai 'Brothels' and we visited a couple of times and I had a good 3some session on my B/Day.
VERY EXPENSIVE for an Hour.
the Girls were not available for take out as the apartments were open for 24 Hours and if a punter turned up and the Girl was asleep,she was simply woken up.
they seemed to be free to go out and about for Daily things and seemed to go home often.
i don't recall what their cut was to the Madam,but she was the one who was paid.
the Girls never asked me for any money and did'nt seem to expect me to give them any.
my friend did explain the whole set-up to me but time had eroded my memory.
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Posted on: 2:18 am on Jan. 17, 2005
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latitude
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One of the things that concerns me about this situation is the unknown element. At least in my friend's case, she has no idea where she will be working or what the environment is. She did mention the 24 hr job duty.
When I have taken a job, whether it was driving a truck or writing software, I knew who I would work for, and if it didn't work out I could leave. "The man" took his cut one way or another -- that's what working at a job entails. But this idea of holding a passport (which is what my friend said they will do) reeks of imprisonment.
Also, if a girl works in Thailand and gets roughed up, you can be sure that her friends (and their friends) will take care of business and the crime will not go unpunished. Thousands of miles away, there is minimal protection, and no escape.
In the nineties, with the fall of the Soviet Union, the level of human trafficking was enormous. Many Eastern European girls were brought over to Western Europe and some met some unpleasant fates. The contrived debt bondage alone is quite bad. The Russian mob is not a group to mess around with. I'm not sure what the level of abuse is now.
If someone does something through their own free will, than more power to them. Losing freedom at the hands of others, however, is a sorry state to be in.
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Posted on: 3:39 am on Jan. 17, 2005
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mrniceguy70
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I would hope that the Swiss officials are onto this, the simple solution would be to deny them a Schengen visa. The Swiss aren't dummies, and I bet it would look suspicious for a TG to apply for a visa for a 3-month tour. Is your friend getting some help or is she responsible for getting a visa on her own?
MRNG70
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 9:52 am on Jan. 17, 2005
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