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chateaujade
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Most marriages in the US fail. More than 50%. So the simple fact is that marriage is a risky station of life.
Complicating it by marrying outside of your own culture, and outside of your own race, is never going to make things easier.
My present happy 15 year marriage followed a terribly unhappy 4 year one with a Japanese woman in northern Virginia. She was a bookeeper at the Japanese Embassy. Not a bar girl. And we were miserable.
I'll take my ex BG Thai wife over her any time. We live in harmony. This is a house filled with laughter as the brothers who have been here can attest. Even the sessions are filled with laughter and fun because the Dommes and the subs are having FUN -- although most of you will never understand that.
Actually there is no better way to make a hit with the BGs than to learn how to make them laugh. Manage that and you will never be referred to as a 'tua' a thing, an animal, behind your back.
Anyway the Thai word for 'you' in the intimate case, is also tua, there is a slight difference in the sound, and the spelling in Thai but for practical pupurposes the two are so hard to tell apart that it isn't funny. That is one of the reasons why new students of Thai should avoid these pronouns! Because, as in the case of eating pussy, or being in the Mafia -- one slip of the tongue and you can be in deep shit.
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 6:34 pm on Oct. 1, 2002
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chateaujade
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My point, which got sidetracked, is that men who marry straight Thai women or straight Asian women, or straight Latin American women, often have 98% of the same problems as do men who marry Thai BGs.
Very high divorce rates.
And it isn't because those women are bad.
It's because the deck is stacked against all marriages, and crosscultural marriages even more so, in spades.
So tossing the extra baggage of a Thai BG as a spouse on top of almost certain disaster, is just rat poison in the cyanide. It ain't good but the odds are against success anyway.
I'll give a free tip to anyone who wants to deft the odds. STAY HERE. Do NOT bring your TG to the US or wherever. BIG MISTAKE and that's a fact.
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Bangkok Women : Meet Sensual Bangkok Women
Posted on: 6:41 pm on Oct. 1, 2002
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hooomyy
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Bravo for clearing the air from bar girl centric relationship problems to the much greater-scale of local ones. Hitting it off is complicated enough without cultural and social intricacies.
Your explanation of laughter makes perfect sense, as it is true in every culture that I can envision - a human quality we all appreciate.
Thank you for your explanation of the Thai word 'tua'. I shall definitely heed your advice and avoid using, or listening for, this word. I hope that my ear, with time, will learn the subtleties that yours has, Chateaujade.
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 6:45 pm on Oct. 1, 2002
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Chompoo
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Actually the stat is that about 50% of american marriages end in divorce. I would reckon even a far higher number could be considered to have "failed."
;)
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Sexy Bangkok Girls
Posted on: 6:54 pm on Oct. 1, 2002
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chateaujade
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Really true, C. There are a lot of couples living in misery for the sake of kids, or religion, or whatever, rather than divorcing, or who put off divorce way too long.
Glad we can see eye to eye on something anyway.
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 7:15 pm on Oct. 1, 2002
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MrJoe
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The bad news: I have heard BGs refer to falangs as "mun" ( "it" ). Hate it.
The good new: I have heard many TGs (educated/polite and otherwise) refer to their close freinds, and thier brothers and sisters as "mun" (it). Don't much like that either but...
It's just another one of the many, many ways in which Thai language AND thought processses are at times simply not able to be translated or even comprehended if we apply "falang thinking " to it. And of course to a great extent, we can't help doing that, no matter how long we spend here or how much we study.
There are some things here that are unpalatable or even unacceptable by our standards but our standards are neither applicable or relevant--except to us.
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Bangkok Women : Meet Beautiful Thai Girls
Posted on: 8:59 pm on Oct. 1, 2002
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chateaujade
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Isn't that mung, sometimes munga or munguh?
Very impolite worker-class pronound 2nd person but also used as you said to address immediate family, esp when pissed off.) To use this to anyone but immediate family is to invite a brawl, esp as in Yet Meh munguh! (Motherf_cker, literally f_ck Your Mother.)
I know a lot of very dirty Thai. should I be proud?
I get a lot of laughs by changing the trite standard I Love You from Phom Lac Tur to Gaw Lac Munguh, which means exactly the same thing only it's drenched in insult. Don't say this to a Thai girl unless you know her very well and there is no deadly weapon or heavy object nearby.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 9:15 pm on Oct. 1, 2002
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chateaujade
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Mahn (is also a bad form of pronoun, only 3rd person not second.
A lot of these laborer (gammagawn) class pronouns derive from Lao and are really former slave class (taht) pronouns, hence the insult, I suspect.
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Thai Girls : Meet Active Thai Girls
Posted on: 9:20 pm on Oct. 1, 2002
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MrJoe
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No, not mungh. (Which of course I know, though funnily enough in olden times it wasn't considered rude.)
I'm talking about mun (it). My point is that it may not be polite, but it is not necessarily malevolent and it's not the same as if we were to use "it" to refer to a person in English; It's an informal colloquialism.
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 9:20 pm on Oct. 1, 2002
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MrJoe
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BTW mungh can be used only as a form of address from one to another. Mun (as I am describing) is sometimes used to refer to a 3rd person.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 9:22 pm on Oct. 1, 2002
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