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Come one...come all....bring your sons and daughters to LOS so they can expierence the sexual freedom so abundant in the surroundings of BKK. Apparently, some members do not have children and speak freely and wholly and would allow the remainder of their family to join in on the festivities...mom and dad are welcome.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 1:08 pm on July 29, 2005
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Golden Star
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I personally find myself in agreement with Changover. While it is true that members of this board do not have the right to moralize or preach, I think that what they are trying to say is that it is parents' duty to shield their children from harm and negative influence.
While I enjoy the P4P scene of Bangkok, this is not something I am particularly proud of and it is about the last thing I would want to throw my child into. Should my son follow in my footsteps and travel to Thailand for some sanuk, fine - it is his personal life and none of my business. I won't dare preach as that indeed would fall under 'double standards'. But to take him along, esp. at a young age of 18 is pretty damn irresponsible. What if he gets AIDS? How will you live with that as a father?
Not to mention that at 18, he might not be quite ready for this mentally. Even if he is tall and has a moustache, he still has yet to embrace life's responsibilites and discover new things. I made my first trip to Thailand when I was 20 and when you have to pay for sex in a foreign land at the age of 20, that's pretty damn sad. To take your 18-year-old son with you and expose him to this is even sadder.
A much better idea would be to help your son develop the social skills necessary to meet young women so he can have a fulfilling life and happy relationships, not drag him to sleazy bars in SE Asia so you can show him "the ropes".
IMO.
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Bangkok Women : Meet Sensual Bangkok Women
Posted on: 1:49 pm on July 29, 2005
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Golden Star
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P.S. Also, Daffy mentioned Western puritanism. But do you think it's any different in Asia? Do you think an Asian man would take his son on a joint visit to the mia noi? From what I read about the Asian culture, I doubt it. If anything, things are far more discreet there than in the West and these topics are not discussed in households at all.
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 2:08 pm on July 29, 2005
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China Sailor
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Quote: from Golden Star on 3:01 am on July 30, 2005
...While I enjoy the P4P scene of Bangkok, this is not something I am particularly proud of and it is about the last thing I would want to throw my child into...
Golden Star,
Then why are you still doing this? Have you no control over your urges?
Pittiful, IMHO.....
Steeb,
I have children and I will not demand from them any higher moral standard then I would impose on myself.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Sexy Bangkok Girls
Posted on: 3:06 pm on July 29, 2005
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cenctm
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Quote: from China Sailor on 12:34 am on July 30, 2005
I find the statements by cenctm and by Changover to be the apex of hyprocracy.
You can think whatever you like. After reading your reply, it scares me for a childs sake but, as far as I'm concerned, I couldn't care less.
So it is ok for you to go to LOS and chase pussy but god forbid that you let your son do the same. "Do as I say son, not as I do." Yes??
Absolutely. Let's expand on that a little further. I, myself, would drink and drive, as stupid as it was, when I was younger. I guess I'm a hypocrite if I tell my son that he shouldn't do it.
I've experimented with certain illicit substances when I was younger. I guess I'm a hypocrite if I tell my son that he shouldn't do it.
I could go on with a lot of stupid shit I did that I wouldn't want my children to go through but I think the point is made. For those that don't get it, yes, I am a hypocrite. That's what good parents do. Notice I said "good". Those of you who feel that turning your child into a whore monger is beneficial to him, under the guise of "educating" him, are clueless and can be considered just average parents.
You're f***ing up his ability to engage in a normal man/woman relationship (I'd love to hear the reasoning to argue with that). So, yes it can be harmful to him. Maybe not in the exact same way as drinking/driving or drugs (for those who earlier said that it's not the same) but harmful is harmful.
Why would you want to do that to a child? Your 40 year old son is differant. He has experienced life, good or bad, and can make decisions using good cognitive reasoning. An 18 year old can't.
Bullshit! As long as you are on the board and you are a punter, you have no right to preach sexual morality to any one, including your daughters and sons.
That is, without a doubt, one of the dumbest things I've ever read ANYWHERE. With that reasoning if your 18 year old daughter wanted to have a 40 year old "punter" come over so she could earn a few hundred Baht while he sat on your couch, ala Star of Light, you would say it was okay. Would you allow it or would you be a hypocrite and start preaching sexual morality? (This is certainly a hypothetical scenario and, of course, NOTHING personal is being directed at anyones daughter)
After all, you probably let someones 18 year old daughter do it to you while in BKK. I know I have. But I AM a hypocrite who would want my children to grow up in a normal environment. I'd be proud of that. The monger scene is not a normal environment.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 3:08 pm on July 29, 2005
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Golden Star
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"Golden Star,
Then why are you still doing this? Have you no control over your urges?
Pittiful, IMHO....."
It's not only about self-control. I P4P in Bangkok because Bangkok can offer me something that I don't get back home. As do most of the people that pay for sex in Thailand. We all have our reasons.
Centcm is right - a monger's environment is not a normal one for an 18-year-old. Your comment about "hypocrisy" is moot. Just like the other guy said, just because you pay other women to sleep with you, I sincerely doubt that you'd look approvingly as your own daughter decides to walk down the street and gobble a few yummies for some extra cash.
IMO.
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Bangkok Women : Meet Beautiful Thai Girls
Posted on: 3:24 pm on July 29, 2005
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cenctm
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Quote: from silentbob1234 on 3:55 am on July 29, 2005
Ok...
Who let Ward Cleaver in here???
I would love to have been Ward Cleaver. Even as a small child in the late 60's I found June Cleaver to be hot. It's a little known fact that "June" used to go to "Wards" dressing room in between scenes where "Eddie Haskell" and "Lumpy Rutherford" would double team her while "Ward" sat in a chair watching while "Miss Landers" (Beavers teacher) was on her knees throating him.
Okay, that's bullshit but it does sound interesting.
No, I can say I'm not "Ward." I CAN say that I'm glad I didn't find BKK (and Pattaya) until my late 30's. I really think that an environment like that, experienced at a much younger age would've changed my view of women.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 3:44 pm on July 29, 2005
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bkkfella
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Quote: from China Sailor on 12:34 am on July 30, 2005
I find the statements by cenctm and by Changover to be the apex of hyprocracy.
So it is ok for you to go to LOS and chase pussy but god forbid that you let your son do the same. "Do as I say son, not as I do." Yes??
Bullshit! As long as you are on the board and you are a punter, you have no right to preach sexual morality to any one, including your daughters and sons.
No right to preach ? To our children ? Baloney !!
We have a responsibility to preach to our children.
Futhermore, hypocracy may not be the height of virtue, but at least it aspires to be....
"Hypocracy is the tribute that vice pays to virtue"
(Not my wisdom; I am not that brilliant)
A hypocrite is a sinner who at least has risen above the other fellow sinners in recognizing his errant ways and turns around to advise others (like his son) not to follow in his steps. That is good. That is positive. I'd much rather have a preaching hypocrite for a dad than a neglectful, apathetic xxxxx (alcoholic or druggie or whoremonger) who thinks there is nothing wrong with his ways.
This thread got way way off track. The morality of mongering is NOT the same as the advisability of teaching a 22 yr old son (I assume he is getting all the tail he needs when he is in college) that never in his future does he need to make a choice (like dating a girl he does not like, or wanting to abstain from having a girlfriend for a few months or a year, etc.) because he needs sex. It's easy to get with a few bucks and here is how. Now go concentrate on making your contribution to the world and find a girl to love and take care of.
One, one final point. I was not talking about LOS in any way. Finding sex in Memphis or Bristol or Sydney is a skill I want my boy to know cold and have in his back pocket for any lonley night he might face in his lifetime.
Darn it, I was in my late forties when I found out all the massage parlors in San Francisco were brothels. I don't want my boy to be as ignorant and sheltered as I was.
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Thai Girls : Meet Active Thai Girls
Posted on: 8:19 pm on July 29, 2005
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silentbob1234
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(Insert "Teach Your Children" by Crosby, Stills and Nash lyrics here)
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 12:15 pm on July 31, 2005
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Frank La Rue
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Quote: from Golden Star on 3:01 am on July 30, 2005
I personally find myself in agreement with Changover. While it is true that members of this board do not have the right to moralize or preach, I think that what they are trying to say is that it is parents' duty to shield their children from harm and negative influence.
While I enjoy the P4P scene of Bangkok, this is not something I am particularly proud of and it is about the last thing I would want to throw my child into. Should my son follow in my footsteps and travel to Thailand for some sanuk, fine - it is his personal life and none of my business. I won't dare preach as that indeed would fall under 'double standards'. But to take him along, esp. at a young age of 18 is pretty damn irresponsible. What if he gets AIDS? How will you live with that as a father?
Not to mention that at 18, he might not be quite ready for this mentally. Even if he is tall and has a moustache, he still has yet to embrace life's responsibilites and discover new things. I made my first trip to Thailand when I was 20 and when you have to pay for sex in a foreign land at the age of 20, that's pretty damn sad. To take your 18-year-old son with you and expose him to this is even sadder.
A much better idea would be to help your son develop the social skills necessary to meet young women so he can have a fulfilling life and happy relationships, not drag him to sleazy bars in SE Asia so you can show him "the ropes".
IMO.
Relevant & Intersting Discussion.
Here is my take:
I have brought my son to LOS several times in preparation for my Thai Wedding. He is very popular with Noi's girlfriends, who look for an international boyfriend for their daughter.
My "plan" is to bring him to a bar where I, unknown to him arrange the bar fine and he will have his, unknown to him, sexual debut.
Why?
If I had this experience early on in my life, my sexual seld confidence at early age would have helped me a lot to progress o my own as a very young man and make my own moves.
I have no reservations about this. It will propel him into
doing what he wants to do
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 12:46 pm on July 31, 2005
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