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seajohn
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Mel... again? Oh, dear. Is your straight jacket loose? Is it that time again? Should we call the interns?
Now, try to relax. Take a deep breath. That's a boy. Try to remember...
I have told you time and time again that I believe you smelled what you smelled. Should I type in capitals too? How can I make it any clearer? You smelled a terrible smell. Why do you keep harping on it with me, when I am the only one who has told you, again and again, in a variety of ways, that I believe your fact? I even commiserated with you on the fact that everyone (except me, you will note) has made fun of you about it. I guess some people just can't be helped.
But you're not one of those people, are you, Mel... one of those people who can't be helped?
"Nice seajohn, nice..." Yes, that a boy. I am your only friend, Mel. The only one who has tried to help you... through this insane period.
Now, don't you see how insane all this is? It is insane, isn't it? It's so insane that it's crazy the way you keep on saying I don't believe you.
It's like you don't know how to read or something. But we both know that's not true, is it? Are you hallucinating? Do you need medicine? I am sure that if you post on the Health section of the Forum, someone can find you some. You see, I am trying to help you again.
The only thing--now try to think--the only thing I have told you that I don't believe is your accusation that the regular posters on that thread (the one you're obsessed with) are owners of that bar. They're not. But you keep pretending that I told you I don't believe that you can trust your own perceptions. Can't you?
Silly Mel... always pretending...
Oops, in this thread--remember this thread, Mel?--I also told you that phi (Thai for ghost) was not pronounced like pack (without the k sound) when you said it was.
It may astonish you that people can write about pronouncing phonemes without having to actually hear them. You called that trick "magic".
Now get this. You won't believe it. You even did this "magic", as you primitively call it (regressing to a point where you're not familiar with civilized alphabets), yourself when you wrote that the word in question, which could be transliterated into English as phi or pi or pee or even pea, was the same sound as "pack" without the k sound. Ta-Da!
Well, unless you pronounce "pack" the same as you pronounce "peak", I am afraid you have made a mistake, old sport. But I am proud of you for your foray into "magic". Of course, no one has to hear it to know it is wrong; if they are familiar with English vowels, they can read it.
No sound necessary, but...
Are you hearing voices?
Have you gone mad?
You "have checked 400 of the threads so far," you say?
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 9:10 am on Nov. 5, 2007
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Mel Gibson
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seajohn,, This is getting way too personal for my liking.
You are simply being pig-headed,one-eyed and obstinate, not to mention bloody well WRONG.
This forum is for open discussion and is NOT suppose include personal attacks.
I laugh at your suggestion that you "are my only friend",, a statement like that is like a child wanting to get his way " I won't be your friend anymore" SOB SOB.
Silly seajohn,, always pretending he is in SOL.
You now state that the word fort ghost is spelled PHI,, my talking dictionary manufactured in Thailand spells it PHEE,,,, my are you crazy,, can you not see that the spelling of Thai words in the English font is indeed open for conjecture.
see these:http://www.thai2english.com/search/ghost+
http://www.thai-language.com/default.aspx.
I actually prefer the first example,, see how it uses a TONAL indicator ( ala Vietnamese") yes,, YES it IS almost impossible to write in English the tonal sound without those TONAL indicators,,, can you hear me,, do you understand the MAGIC or are you hearing voices, in need of medication or just stuck in SOL in a straight jacket?
The voices you hear,, are they limited to English sounds,,or do you dream how you alone know how to write in English text what is said in Thai?
OH dear, maybe too long in the heat of BKK. Time for a holiday seajohn.
Regards
Mel.
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Bangkok Women : Meet Sensual Bangkok Women
Posted on: 6:05 am on Nov. 8, 2007
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seajohn
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Quote: from Mel Gibson on 5:34 am on Nov. 3, 2007
Phae ( like pack without the k) is for ghost
Could you please explain this?
Do you pronounce "pack" the same way you pronounce "peak"?
This has nothing to do with spelling. Pronunciation and spelling are two different topics.
I've said all along (please quote me) that I don't care how you spell the vowel.
When you compare two sounds, like you did above, we are talking about pronunciation, not spelling.
You have made an error in pronunciation.
Not an error in spelling... which we all agree, is open to conjecture.
Linguistics is a science, Mel, which I have studied and you apparently haven't. But that's fine. This is a forum, of which we are each members. Your input is as a valuable as mine or anyone else's here. But I would say it loses value when you refuse to accept your mistake, because you are going to confuse some other guy who doesn't know how to speak Thai.
The correct pronunciation of the vowel in Thai for ghost is the same vowel that we use in English when we say words such as: peak, peek, seek, see, be, bee, free, tea, key, etc.
Not when we say pack, stack, sack, rack, black, etc.
Don't you understand the difference in these two sounds (regardless of spelling) ?
Why did you say they are the same?
Have I read this part of yours above, which I quoted and which is the whole basis of my argument against you in this thread, incorrectly?
Thanks for coming back to the topic of this thread. Please tell me what you meant.
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 5:47 pm on Nov. 8, 2007
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seajohn
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Quote: from Mel Gibson on 9:20 pm on Nov. 8, 2007
You now state that the word fort ghost is spelled PHI,, my talking dictionary manufactured in Thailand spells it PHEE,,,, my are you crazy,, can you not see that the spelling of Thai words in the English font is indeed open for conjecture.
I did not state that, and I have nowhere made any reference as to how it should be spelled. As a last note, in order to remind you, since you don't seem to be able to read my posts very well:
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seajohn Posted on 12:25 am on Nov. 6, 2007
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... the word in question, which could be transliterated into English as phi or pi or pee or even pea...
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Anyway, please go on. Tell me how this word is like pack without the k.
We are talking about pronunciation.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Sexy Bangkok Girls
Posted on: 7:13 pm on Nov. 8, 2007
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atl
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seajohn,
I dont know if you are on a drinking binge, or if you even drink, but I must concur with mel here..
I have no beef with anyone and am a basic "kumbaya" cool guy, but you are pushing buttons that are unnecassary (sp?)..
just an observation as mel as never in my years here posted anything negative...
atl
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 7:07 pm on Nov. 9, 2007
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FIB
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Quote: from atl on 10:22 am on Nov. 10, 2007
just an observation as mel as never in my years here posted anything negative...
Not taking sides nor anything, but... ahem, ahem... I am not going to search for it but I guess Mel himself admitted posting controversial (or "contraversial" as he put it then) opinions, which quite a few at the time have found, well, extremely prejudiced and negative...
But then again, let's not have the naivety to confuse what a brother posts and what the personality of the brother really is.
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Bangkok Women : Meet Beautiful Thai Girls
Posted on: 3:39 am on Nov. 10, 2007
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seajohn
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atl,
"unnecessary". If you enable the spell checker on your computer, you will cease pushing so many unnecessary buttons too!
Anyway, thanks for your post. Your romantic intentions are noted, but I can only wonder if perhaps you missed a few threads while on one of your own binges? The ones FIB mentions above (mostly racist comments). And the way he harassed SHEIKH14... I'm sorry, Mel Gibson as a poster doesn't get my sympathy. As a person, of course he does.
He knows perfectly well I don't care what he smells or how he spells*.
I have never attacked him for these things, though he keeps accusing me of doing it. 'Go figure,' as they say...
So of course I'd get a little warm.
... He seems to be taking it out on me because other posters have attacked him many times, and I happened to be sarcastic about his quite bizarre mistake in this one thread, which he keeps avoiding for some reason. I did try to drop it a couple of pages ago (right after your last post, atl, as a matter of fact) but Mel wouldn't "go gently into this good night" (his words), so I became more sarcastic (how laughable, suggesting that we were friends, for instance). But I should have never responded to his dissembling nonsense with such sarcasm. I never should have responded at all to any of his posts. He should have the last word. That would be best. His last word should serve as an example.
In any event, all of this reminds me that, as the late R.Reagan once suggested, were our planet suddenly discovered to be under attack from an alien force, we would quickly find our disputes negligible.
In a sense, we are already under such an attack. That is to say, we are mortal, all our puny words are mortal, and everything we hold dear and precious about ourselves is mortal too.
- seajohn out.
[you could say, gone on the holiday suggested]
*Your spelling, on the other hand....! haha 
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 4:05 am on Nov. 10, 2007
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Mel Gibson
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atl,, thanks for the good words, appreciated.
FIB,, yes you are 100% correct in that I have posted what others feel are contraversial thoughts, I have never been a yes man, a follower / a sheep. My thoughts often differ from that of the "main stream", or in many cases the "loud minority" and for that I do not apologise.
QUOTE from seajohn"Pi in this case is different from pi as in elder because it is a totally different word with different spelling"
Counter quote from seajohn" I did not state that, and I have nowhere made any reference as to how it should be spelled."
Please make up your mind so as not to confuse the members of this forum.
You see seajohn we are on a WRITTEN forum, people cannot HEAR what we are trying to say, so therefore we must attempt to use the closest English equivalents to the sounds we are trying to convey,
Now, I apologise for my accusations regarding the STENCH of SOL, yes you indeed did NOT attack me on that. Others from the SOL thread did, and I wrongly assumed this was just your turn in the "tag team" get Mel for saying that.
I got more than a little warm with references to straight jackets, insanity, hearing voices etc etc.
At this stage rather than inflame this situation further I would like to ask a question of you seajohn,, a question that your linguistic studies should be excellent for. Can you please tell us what mai mai mai mai means?
You will NOT be able to know what order I put those words in. Now can you in writing ( spelling ) as that is the only method to discuss this on this forum,explain the difference in sound between mai, mai mai and of cause mai?
Ok, almost impossible? I guess when it comes to the ghost word Phee I am trying to convey a falling tone when I say half way between the English words PEA and PEAR ( PEAR without a LONG "R").
EITHER way it is just NOT worth all this drama, attacks and general bullshit.
Mel.
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Thai Girls : Meet Active Thai Girls
Posted on: 5:14 am on Nov. 10, 2007
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DrLove
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IMHO This thread was already finished with post #3 on the first page...
There was no need for discussion......
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 5:22 am on Nov. 10, 2007
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IBFarang
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I don’t really have a dog in this race, but it seems to me that the issue SJ has with you Mel is not related in any fashion to spelling – but in the effort you initially made to explain how the word is pronounced in the following post:
Quote: from Mel Gibson on 5:34 am on Nov. 3, 2007
...Phae ( like pack without the k) is for ghost ( I'm NOT fluent in Thai ),, Phi ( or pea) is for older,, as in Pee Chai Pee Sao. ( Oldwer sister / brother)
As I think you are aware by now the word is not actually pronounced in the fashion in which you originally posted (like pack without the k). It is actually pronounced very similar to phi or pea in much the same way that phi is pronounced meaning older – as I understand it the difference in the pronunciation between phi for ghost and phi meaning old is more about inflection than the vowel sound. Of course I am tone def so they sound pretty much the same to me in either case and if someone were to talk about an older ghost I would be completely lost.
I have to run, I got some twenty baht notes that I have to rub between the breasts and ass cheaks of some TG's.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 5:50 am on Nov. 10, 2007
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