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And with that being said would anyone else like an answer to the question of why sponsorship can sometimes work. Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý
Yes bros I said sometimes. One of our expat brothers with much knowledge on the subject has indicated that 1 out of every 6 Thai ladies has the potential to turn out to be one of those rare jems that do exist in LOS. It's not automatic, but at least the potential does exist. Not bad odds in my opinion. Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý
Brother Balls tell my hero that I said keep up the good work and if you're planning on being in LOS the second half of next month then I would love to take you two to dinner one night while I'm there. Peace
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Posted on: 1:08 am on April 13, 2003
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Ballsburstin
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cmore,
10-4, I'll pass along the msg to Ms. BallsB. Not sure if I will be in LOS until June/July timeframe as my China deal is screwing up my travel plans. But make sure you post me your dates by PM, and if we overlap, it's a deal.
- Balls
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Posted on: 3:06 am on April 13, 2003
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Arcadius
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I suppose very few of us believe that sponsoring - or even falling for - a BG is advisable in the abstract. After all, who runs around encouraging these things?
But the people involved are real, and life happens. Relationships with BGs can work out, as can sponsoring arrangements. Not all the guys who get involved in these things are idiots. They are betting on a chance with a particular individual they know.
And why shouldn't they? The odds on success may not be that great, but some guys win their bets. Beats me why anyone else should get hot under the collar about what these guys are trying to do.
I am suspicious of people who talk about BGs (or, if you must, prostitutes, whores, hookers, harlots, suppurating bags of pus) as if they were some undifferentiated mass. Imho, Thais are highly individualistic and the BGs are no exception. They come in a very wide variety of personalities & characters.
If you are not aware of this, it can only mean: 1) you have never actually encountered these creatures, or 2) you have never troubled to learn anything about them beyond tit size, skill at bbbjs, &c &c.
If that's all you want, then fine. But why must other guys avoid everything else these girls have to offer? Because they risk getting bruised?
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 6:35 am on April 13, 2003
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Excellent advice there balls: only if you are mutually meeting these goals, if not walk... Do you mind if I borrow that phrase for the guys here at work that keep asking me questions about TG's & BG's? (Yes they think I'm some kind of expert, get real, only because I learned how to speak the language) Somebody thinking with his mind and stepping back wondering what did I get myself into?
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Posted on: 9:02 am on April 13, 2003
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Jumping Jack
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from Arcadius
. Imho, Thais are highly individualistic
Normally I do not post HARD posts but this is the biggest load of crap I have ever read
JJ
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Posted on: 12:34 pm on April 13, 2003
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Arcadius
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JJ
Naturally you would think so.
As it happens, 'individualistic' was not the right word. 'Individuated' would probably be a better one.
Of course, Thais do have traits in common - one of the most attractive being their joie de vivre. SUCH a welcome change from Farangland, wouldn't you agree?
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Posted on: 2:18 pm on April 13, 2003
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Quote: from Arcadius on 6:35 pm on April 13, 2003
After all, who runs around encouraging these things?
Nobody, I would imagine, and yet it still seemed like a rather large portion had tried this at one time or another - typically with a rather poor ending in my view.
Not all the guys who get involved in these things are idiots. They are betting on a chance with a particular individual they know.
I agree most bro's on this board do not come off like your average idiot; that's largely why I was so surprised how seemingly wide-spread this was. As for sending money to "individuals they know," well that seems to be somewhat variable from one case to the next.
Beats me why anyone else should get hot under the collar about what these guys are trying to do.
Not I, good sir. I'm a little surprised, but not pissed or even irritated. I would think it goes without saying that this is just my opinion. Each person here is obviously capable of living their life as they see fit, regardless of what I think about it.
I am suspicious of people who talk about BGs as if they were some undifferentiated mass.
I will admit that generalizations are tricky business, but they're not always untrue. Many things that people say about my race and profession are not very nice, but there's often at least a little truth to them.
If you are not aware of this, it can only mean: 1) you have never actually encountered these creatures, or 2) you have never troubled to learn anything about them beyond tit size, skill at bbbjs, &c &c.
Let me clear this up right here and now. I have not ever, not even once, set so much as my pinky toe in Thailand. Nor, to my knowledge, have I ever even met a Thai citizen beyond the most superficial of levels. I am looking forward to my first visit shortly. After that I will do my best to provide at least one field report to the rest of the bro's and then who knows.
Maybe that will be the last you ever hear of me. Or, perhaps I'll become addicted to Thailand and go back again and again. If, by chance, I become infatuated with some sweet BG and become her SO, I will be more than happy to admit my fallacy to everyone and accept your admonishment as you see fit. Until that time, maybe you can cut me a little slack.
If that's all you want, then fine. But why must other guys avoid everything else these girls have to offer? Because they risk getting bruised?
Nope, I was just looking for some sort of explanation, which I got. Many times over. I think that about covers it.
And finally, I want to give a big thanks to the bro's who gave their opinions willingly and without reservation. Your comments are greatly appreciated, regardless if they were in agreement or disagreement.
-PS
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Thai Girls : Meet Active Thai Girls
Posted on: 6:26 pm on April 13, 2003
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Arcadius
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Pop
Sorry if you took some of my remarks personally. My post was partially directed at you, but also more generally - it's a quirk of this medium that the two often get entangled.
If you haven't been to LOS before, then cut yourself all the slack you want. Even with the help of a forum such as this, there's a great deal about LOS you can't really hope to grasp until you've experienced it at first hand. Many of things you've been reading about here will actually click into place quite quickly (ah, so THAT's what they meant).
it still seemed like a rather large portion had tried this at one time or another - typically with a rather poor ending
The overall stats are indeed appalling. I would say the main causes are: 1) trying to sponsor a very young BG who is still having a ball (rather than an older one who is looking for an exit), 2) depriving a BG of her old social environment without helping her to replace it, 3) chronic mistrust, heavy-handedly manifested. TPE, BK, MrJoe & others have described on this forum what a sponsor needs to do if he's to have any real hope of a good outcome. If everyone took that advice to heart, I have no doubt that the success rate would be a lot higher. Balls is a good example of a guy who's going about things the right way.
generalizations are tricky business
Indeed they are, but sometimes necessary as you say. Generalising about Thai BGs is particularly fraught if you have never met any, because to a large degree they are sui generis and there are no satisfactory terms of outside reference. My main objection to the word 'prostitute' is not that it is inaccurate, but that it comes with a huge load of prejudicial and hopelessly misleading baggage. You will find out why when you come to LOS.
If, by chance, I become infatuated with some sweet BG and become her SO, I will be more than happy to admit my fallacy
Well, you should try not to become infatuated (if possible!) However, falling for a BG is certainly easy enough. My own solution is to be sort-of in love with 4 to 6 regulars at any given time, which at least stops me obsessing about any one of them in particular. Ý
I think some guys come to LOS in a very defensive frame of mind. These women may be superficially charming, but I know they're all conniving little whores, and there's NO WAY they're getting at me or my wallet. Trouble is, most of the BGs can intuit that sort of attitude in 5 nanoseconds, don't appreciate it at all, and respond in kind. OK, I'm just a prostitute, you're just a john. I'll give you as little as I can get away with and rip you off if I can. In other words, these guys get what they expect and it just confirms their cynicism.
If you're prepared to risk being more trusting and open, you can get far more than this out of the BGs. Give them half a chance to like you, and they'll do just about anything for you in return. This is why so many guys find them so damn lovable, and are thoroughly miserable when they have to leave LOS. It's not just the sex.
Take me. I'm not young, not rich, not unattached, no oil painting. I hold no aces for the BGs and they know it. All I've got going for me is that I genuinely like them a lot, don't look down on them, take some interest in them as real people with real lives, treat them nicely, pay them properly. That's all there is to it. In return, they give me FAR more than I have any right to expect, and I'm enormously grateful to them for it.
Anyway, I hope you have a wonderful time here. Get your relationships with the BGs even half right, and it'll be very difficult not to.
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 5:22 am on April 14, 2003
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thaiprivateeye
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The one thing IMHO Thais are not, is individualistic !! Greatest way I find to check the genuiness ness of most TGs, is to check out their friends, if their friends/room-mates, have a day job, study, are home in bed by 10pm nightly etc, then most likely so will they, on the other hand, if their friends frequent pick up joints, like chatting with farangs etc etc, 99.9% sure the TG is question is doing the same ....
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 6:43 am on April 14, 2003
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