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Dirty gurus 6 K a night seems about right I spend at least 5 k a night and thats without a hotel included.
Different to guys living there and in the west.
A devils den girl is expensive from a thai point of view but not in the west what you get is dead cheap.
Neverless I never use them or eden been paying 1 k in bangkok and 500 in pattaya for as long as I can remember. Of course exceptions can occur but they are rare.
As for the booze I cannot drink when im working so in holiday mode I relax sometimes we need this with stressfull jobs and marriages. I would cut down if they ever ease up on laws surrounding weed as this is my preference but I substain in los its simply not worth the risk and I can do that at home.
Actually I can shag hookers at home starting at 30 euros st its just different in los the line between customer and boyfriend is vague but I noticed the same hard line western hooker attitude creeping in.Still have a stable of regulars where I know the sex will be good,
Mosy of my drinking I do like thai do anyway many bottles of chang from the shop for 200 baht 
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Posted on: 8:49 am on Dec. 29, 2012
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bkkz
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Quote: from koolbreez on 9:31 pm on Dec. 29, 2012
Since I quit drinking alcohol the quality of the women I see in the gogos has went down. Not that the management has changed hiring policies over the years, it's just that I can actually see clearly now.
The girls I choose still look good in their photos, and I am looking at them when I am sober.  Anyway, I am alcohol free starting today! 
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Posted on: 10:17 am on Dec. 29, 2012
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dirty guru
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Prospective is important....but Koolbreeze your premise that I am spending 6k a night can't be dragged to the conclusion Alcohol is making me do so?
While the rest of your post make sense and I acknowledge the market can be played cheaper.
It's different for some guys visiting....some...many of us have a bucket list.
And while it's true you can find gems in bars or else where...
( and don't assume I haven't done so for years)
These days I might just have an "" action plan"
That might mean over night Devils Den girl.....at 3500 baht and tip 500.
A. Facebook girl who is hot but wants "" good cash incentives""
A stand out at a leading Go Go that your hearts set on.
And occasionally white meat.
I pluck girls out of beer bars if I spot something...but mostly it's things I lust over back home prior.
Example....you see on DD s website a girl...you want her and so book her
costings
http://devilsdenpattaya.com/Out-Call.php
A lot of our trips are also about before and after.
When you do a soapie by day and Go Go by night you hit my amount easily.
Remember my income is above yours in the west...
I own a small business that's doing fine.
As cheap Charlie points out its dead cheap by our standards.
I wasn't so much complaining rather than stating the obvious.
The reality is woman tend to gravitate to their ends and means and who they can catch.
A beer bar girl sets her worth at 1000
A hot girl 3000 or 4000
A Russian hooker more.
You stated Koolbreeze things haven't changed....but others here like MadFrog and myself have observed it occurr.
It's not small shifts as you pointed out like bar fines and/or drink increments of30 baht.
But hikes with fees.
Eden club was once 2500 now 4000 overnight.
That's a 60 % increase.
The Russians that were 4000 are now 10,000 -12,000 that's 250% to 300%
High end girls can and do get high end prices.
And it's attitude also too that changed.
The guy who says he enjoys the GfE and so will keep coming makes a good point.....
It's not just about the money.
If it was I could easily go to the countryside and score even cheaper.
It's about have 7-10 days to f*** a lot.
As BK suggests we do...( to get money's worth)
I Admire the non drinkers here...however recognize they get it wrong when they perceive rational action as irrational.
To them spending 4000 on a devils den girl dressed as a schoolgirl and being willing to take a load on her face and in mouth after being f***ed in her pussy and arse is a waste of cash.
But I tend to agree with cheapcharlie and have to say its dirt cheap.
Dirty performances by cute woman require reward..
You can hunt one down half the cost...
But remember the whole game was locate online lust at home and get her?
Thought -action - achievement.....
It's not stupid...drunk or irrational....
If I have income relative to affording it ( after all we are taking $120 with tip)
It's not reckless....
But guys on tight budgets may disagree.
Another Toll to Bangkok may be family friends and social life at home in your country?
We can maybe touch on that.?
Do you know someone whose primary focus was getting back over there ?
And what about long term?
I have noticed ex pats talking about Thai money in value terms as if it's worth a lot.?
Did they not once earn a lot but now because of living there accept a modest amount of change?
I made $1.500 last night on my water taxi business..
Some Bangkokians make less than that a month...
Is it not relative to income?
And has Thailand and moving there imposed a kind of Toll on people doing so?
I mean I like being able to play with girls and drink and be merry.
It's not unusual.
It's more unlikely that guys here who visit spend much less than me..
On average I think $270 a day on fun is ""not"" irrational but rather more average to a white male gainfully employed.
It's appreciated all the tricks to save.
But I like a hotel with pool and modern furnishings and clean maybe sea view?
Girls that couldn't scare a child and even paler than the paddy varieties.
Maybe groomed and speak well.
Life's short it's holiday mode....don't feel sorry for us porking the better quality meats.....it's fun and by our standards affordable
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Infact that's the point of the thread....
I am paying 6000 baht today at home for 90 minutes with a chinese student two shots....
She is friendly enough.....and it's in my area.
The gap is narrowing....
As one guy said.....he will still go to Thailand ( for now)
But as that gap narrows sheer maths means why?
Unless you wish to count penny's and retire there.
That's discipline I know.
But on holiday all can be forgiven.
Good luck with the abstaince BK....let us know when you hit the 100 day mark.
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 3:58 pm on Dec. 29, 2012
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koolbreez
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It's funny that you still equate quality to spending above average prices. That is the biggest fault made here, and the Japanese are the leaders in that way of thinking.
Except in the fixed priced clubs like Eden, and DD, not all girls charge the same price to all punters. This is especially true in the gogos, bar beers, and freelancer venues. The girl sets her price by what she knows a particular customer can pay, and will pay, and you of all people know this.
I can take the same girl you do, and pay a cheaper price for the same service, or better, if I was still playing.
If you feel you need to pay premium price for the same service that is up to you, but it is not the standard.
You seem to think you make good money so can foolishly spend it how you seem fit to do so.....lololol.
I retired 8 years early, and live as comfortably as I want, and have everything I want, including a girlfriend that takes very good care of me, filling all my needs. I don't have to go looking for another girl because this one doesn't do something I like as you do when you marry them....lololol.
I was the first person to export high grade coffee from Thailand to the USA. I monopolised the market, ran it for 5 years then sold it and retired. I live like I want to in Thailand, and am happy. Take some lessons.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Sexy Bangkok Girls
Posted on: 5:53 pm on Dec. 29, 2012
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dirty guru
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I congratulate you on your success....and acknowledge many girls inflate prices....
But to be honest Koolbreeze a stunning girl in a high end GoGo will these days knowingly wait for someone to agree to 4000- as she will (as you you said get it of a Japanese )
If I want a particular girl who Is a stand out....I tend to agree.(to price)
The nines won't take your 2000 long time
It's still good value.....and in a finite time....( on Holiday). Ok to get on with it.
No big. Deal....won't affect my retirement. In 2020.
Certainly,I would.be careful.$$. Once. At that stage of life.
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 7:13 pm on Dec. 29, 2012
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bkkz
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Quote: from dirty guru on 4:58 am on Dec. 30, 2012
Good luck with the abstaince BK....let us know when you hit the 100 day mark.
Will do that. That will be some time in April, just before Songkran.
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Posted on: 9:11 pm on Dec. 29, 2012
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bkkz
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Quote: from dirty guru on 4:58 am on Dec. 30, 2012
But hikes with fees.
Eden club was once 2500 now 4000 overnight.
It was 3,000 B.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 1:04 am on Dec. 30, 2012
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bkkz
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Quote: from dirty guru on 4:58 am on Dec. 30, 2012
The Russians that were 4000 are now 10,000 -12,000 that's 250% to 300%
It's still possible to get them for 6,000 B for LT, I guess it all depends on your luck or how popular she is.
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Thai Girls : Meet Active Thai Girls
Posted on: 1:06 am on Dec. 30, 2012
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madfrog
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BK : trust me, until 2006 Eden take away was 2500. Then at some point the girls complained to Marc and it was up to 3000...then not so long ago (less than 2 years) it is 4000
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 4:33 am on Dec. 30, 2012
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bkkz
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Well, then their prices have really risen very quickly.
I remember the good old days when I could get a Thermae girl for 1,000 B LT
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 5:10 am on Dec. 30, 2012
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