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Quote: from UKYorkie on 8:54 pm on May 24, 2004
I am just not sure what the skill sets of the local guys are, our stuff is some web front end but mainly back end database systems, web services etc.
I'd say, stay with talent you know - by the time you went through the 4th or 5th iteration, and start to train whatever guys you end up with (or who learn on your dime), you wil most likely have spent more dimes than you were hoping to save.
Harry
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Posted on: 1:54 pm on May 24, 2004
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UKYorkie
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hzink
I take your point but I have other reasons for having an office over there, as I get to stay there.  ... so I will have to have a look arround and see what we have to work with, we could just take people from uni and train them, even given a fairly high churn rate would still be loads cheeper than UK wages.........
As an aside what I have done before with some success is to place work on sites like rentacoder were people round the world get to bid on the work you put up on offer, need to be carefull with specs etc but can get some decent work done for a reasonable price.
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Posted on: 2:02 pm on May 24, 2004
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30k a year for your top guys... Jeez its rougher than I thought back there !!!
I know some companies operating out here to service the 'local' markets and provide hands on support and month maintainance for databased sites.. Its competative on a global scale and the better ones (no offence) seem to be farang managed and from my interaction with them (note I have not contracted them) seem professional and up to speed...
The bid / offer sites do throw up contract hungry companies and as long as payment terms are either on satisfied completeion or stage payment in your favour you retain good control of the project...
However personally I find that handling everything remote is very tough no matter haw much we rely in net communications and collaborations.
Basically if you have solid reliable repeat UK customers outsourcing to lower waged countries does make a lot of sence.. You could also consider Phukets ICT status (easy visa's.. Gov tax breaks.. Lower churn rate as lower opportunities.. nicer living IMHO) as another consideration.
Drop me a PM if you would like a easy to talk to contact of mine here on the island.. You may find simply outsourcing with them onthe proviso that if they work well and on budget there is much more work to come could be of interest.
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Posted on: 3:44 pm on May 24, 2004
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UKYorkie
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30K for a programmer is what we have found is a valid market rate, although.net programmers are going for slightly more.
I have found the bidding sites good as long as you dont expect a 100% finished bit of software, but if you accept that fact you can some get some really good work done.
If you do the math there is no way that outsourcing can be more expensive long term than employing people in the UK. We were looking at taking 5 people on in the UK, with all the overheads etc thats a serious ammount of cash every month.
I have not started to look in detail yet but would be intrested in chatting about some stuff soon, I will shoot you a pm later
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Posted on: 3:58 pm on May 24, 2004
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hzink
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Quote: from UKYorkie on 2:02 am on May 25, 2004
I take your point but I have other reasons for having an office over there, as I get to stay there. ...
I didn't mean to imply to stay in the UK - just bring your talent with you. They will be forever grateful.
Harry
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Posted on: 6:46 pm on May 24, 2004
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caronte
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kmanrox,
you could also try to place an ad. in pantip.com: this site is very popular among Thais involved in the IT industry....the last IT technician my company hired was found here just like all the other guys that came for the interview.....and it's free!
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Posted on: 8:31 pm on May 24, 2004
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wellhung
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Thought about offshoring the project?
I could provide you with a reasonable offer for any IT project offshored with a cmm level 5 company in china at reasonable rates.
PM me...
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Posted on: 5:44 pm on May 25, 2004
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erikE
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Have not read all the posts in this thread, but:
OK, I'm a top progrmmer from Norway, working with big financial institutions, earning great money up here.... But I'm in love with the LOS, so I would not mind a year or two over there....
Pleease make contact if serious... In fact: I will be in LOS from Saturday 10 th and the rest of the month... Lets get a beer!!!
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Posted on: 7:15 pm on July 2, 2004
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