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Bigin
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Ichi;
Very interesting feed back from you as well. It's almost like a relief to read as opposed to some i've read. I guess it would be hard to partake if you fall in love with all of them. Hell you never get a chance to move on to next that way lol !!! Key words, descretion, valor, psychology, Brother , you said a mouth full there, with an even more interesting twist with the womans view. BTW bro. I think but not sure, if you ommit the hyphen your smily will work better?!?!?!?
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 8:10 pm on Jan. 11, 2003
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Ballsburstin
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Ichi,
Thanks for an excellent and thoughtful response. Was curious to see how you would respond to my barbs, ha! 
What I get from you in these two posts is a very educated, practical, and compassionate view of the situation upcountry. I look forward to your future musings.
Re: "Case in point, a number of women I know have sponsors, as well as a number of men that they "love", stacked up mainly because they have seen too many times where actions do not follow words. ÝA given man may proclaim his love and even mean it but if another man comes along with a Visa or moves to the country to take care of her, usually they will go with someone for whom they have lesser feelings for simply because of the actions the particular man took."
Very insightful. My TGF had been involved in more than one round of sponsorships and (sincere) promises of marriage prior to meeting me. And she probably would have done any or all the things you have just stated. As of the present moment, she has decided to go with her heart (and her assumption that I have a "good brain" which also equates in her mind to success in business), even though I have not promised her many of the things the other sponsors have. I think that is because of fallout from her original Thai "husband." She sees that as a mistake she made out of youthful ignorance.
You make a good point about fathers not always providing a work ethic that the daughters can use to their advantage. My TGF's dad is very hard working, and has managed to put the family finances back together after some remarkable setbacks. My hat is off to him. The are other fathers in her mooban that are far less diligent. But, the segregation of boys and girls in terms of roles, expectations, and education happens in Thailand at an early age. I think this can prevent a daughter from effectively garnering lessons a father might have taught her. I believe that is the case with my TGF.
I could respond in detail to many of your other points, but really I would just be agreeing. Your second (long) post has clarified for me some of your reasons for the statements you made in your first (long) post. You are a thinker, and the nature of your post required me to spend some time thinking too, before I responded.
BTW, if you haven't already, pick up some of the books written by Pira Sudham (Tales of Thailand, The Force of Karma, Monsoon Country, etc.). They are available at Asia Books. As you may know, Khun Pira is Isaan, but has risen above the confines of his past to give a voice to the Isaan people. His writing both illuminates and infuriates.
Welcome to board, and the best of luck with your TGF and her family!
- Balls
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Bangkok Women : Meet Sensual Bangkok Women
Posted on: 9:15 pm on Jan. 11, 2003
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BoomARang
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Bigin - "I guess it would be hard to partake if you fall in love with all of them."
It is a bummer sometimes although it helps if I pick an ugly one although that is not so easy to do in LOS. Ý;)
Thanks for the tip on the emoticons, I just figured out how to pull up a page with all the codes on it so I'll be better prepared! Ý
BB - "Was curious to see how you would respond to my barbs,"
You were taking a dig at me? ÝI missed it, can I go back and start a mini-war with you? ÝQuick, anyone got any wit I can borrow? ÝI'm outgunned already! Ý;) ÝActually, I try to set my self up as a target more often than not, it is a little harder for someone to get mad at me if they are laughing at me at the same time. Ý
"As of the present moment, she has decided to go with her heart"
Sorry to hear that. Ý;) ÝFrom my experience, given a chance, they will do that more often than not. ÝIt sounds like you caught a keeper! Ý
"a "good brain" which also equates in her mind to success in business"
You better not introduce her to me then. ÝShe'd learn that is not always the case! ÝBut, wait a minute, I'm not doing too bad so, um, shit, I take that back, it is always the case! Ý;)
"She sees that as a mistake she made out of youthful ignorance."
What do you mean by this? ÝWas she taken in by promises that were never fulfilled or did she fail to look at the earning and growth potential of her previous Thai husband?
"My TGF's dad is very hard working, and has managed to put the family finances back together after some remarkable setbacks. My hat is off to him."
Cool!!! ÝIt's good to hear about positive role models.
"But, the segregation of boys and girls in terms of roles, expectations, and education happens in Thailand at an early age. I think this can prevent a daughter from effectively garnering lessons a father might have taught her. I believe that is the case with my TGF."
That happens even here in Japan, although it is slowly changing. ÝGirls are raised and educated to raise families and boys, to work their way up the corporate ladder. ÝThat could be one advantage to Western culture but then again I wouldn't want to go changing too many things about Thailand otherwise one could end up turning all those sweet and beautiful creatures into their demanding and cold Western sisters. ÝYetch! ÝShoot me before that happens! Ý;)
"You are a thinker"
Thanks, but don't expect it too often, it gives me a headache!
Thanks for the book references! Ý"Both illuminates and infuriates"? ÝI'm not even going to ask what you mean but will instead read to find out, now I really am intrigued! Ý
Ichi
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 12:16 am on Jan. 12, 2003
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Ballsburstin
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Ichi,
Re: " 'She sees that as a mistake she made out of youthful ignorance.' Ý-- What do you mean by this? ÝWas she taken in by promises that were never fulfilled or did she fail to look at the earning and growth potential of her previous Thai husband?"
How she met her husband and the ensuing relationship that led to her son, is sad and painful. She told me that story at an important juncture in our relationship. Probably a juncture ÝI should recap in impending posts in the "Falling in Love Thread." But the specific details of that are too private for this forum, unfortunately. They never did get a chance to figure out whether he had any potential because he amped out on yaabaa and she finally told him to get lost. Rumor has it he's fathered another kid by another woman; the little she knows about this seems to indicate he hasn't done a much better job the second time around.
Yes, by all means check out those books. You may want to start with Tales of Thailand, has an interesting forward and an interview with Khun Pira.
- Balls
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Sexy Bangkok Girls
Posted on: 12:32 am on Jan. 12, 2003
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thaiprivateeye
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Good to hear "Ichi" - what part of Surin ... "Praseart" ? used to run the Thong Tarin hotel many years ago - which at the time also housed the biggest MP in Issarn ... those were the days !
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 7:22 am on Jan. 12, 2003
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BoomARang
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TPE - "what part of Surin ... "Praseart" ?"
Praseart? I'm not familiar with that transliteration. Could that be the same as what I have seen more simply elsewhere as "Prasat"? If so, which one? Pick one, any one! ;) Actually, her family, at least her mother anyway, lives near Kap Choeng, which is near Prasat Tamuan Tot.
I had heard that you had ran the Thong Tarin from someone before although I don't remember from whom.
We always book a room at the TT expecting to stay there but so far I've never been in the place other than to pay the cancellation fee! I'm probably their favorite customer by now! ;)
I had booked in there a couple of times but Tham's mother makes some kick-ass (literally) home brew and whenever I'm up there she, Tham and I, along with seemingly half the population of the north-eastern region get drinking and I wake up the next day in the single men's room with a dozen or so snoring and farting male relatives wondering what the hell happened the night before!
I don't know how she makes the stuff but it goes down like water although drink a water glass full and I guarentee that an hour later you'll by on all fours barking like a dog! Good for what ails you and if you ain't ailin' you soon will be! ;)
When her mother gets really lit, she starts giving Tham a hard time telling Tham that she is not good enough for me and then her mother will turn to me and tell me she is available! She's a trip!
"Those were the days"? Without even considering the work you are doing now, you seem to have enough material to put together a rather decent book, any plans in that area?
Ichi
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Bangkok Women : Meet Beautiful Thai Girls
Posted on: 9:02 am on Jan. 12, 2003
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thaiprivateeye
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... sort of lost some enthusiasim for the kap choeng district when got confronted by a khmer dang with an AK47 who wanted my jeep !!! Have a good buddy who lives at Ban Kravan, also very near Kap chong - he was thinking of setting up a small hotel thgere, as popular now it is a border crossing - Prasart/Prasert, of course the phonetics up to you .... how is you "khamen" guess you understand "sur-whong hoi" - or at least you M-I-L does !!
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 11:34 pm on Jan. 12, 2003
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BoomARang
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TPE - "an AK47 who wanted my jeep"
Well, that would have a tendancy for one to get that nagging feeling of "GET THE F**K OUT!" Not a good feeling to have!
"Ban Kravan, also very near Kap chong"
I'm not familiar with that name but then again, I'm terrible with names as it seems that half the people one talks to in a given area have a different name for where one is. I'd get lost in a second if one of Tham's family wasn't always with me. I assume that you were pretty much on your own up there? If so, you're more of an adventurer than I could ever imagine being!
But, then again, when we are up there we do cross the boder quite often because Tham has a number of friends on the other side so maybe I have been there. If it is the place I am thinking of, I think it would be a great place for a hotel!
"Prasart/Prasert, of course the phonetics up to you"
Actually now that I think about it, we do go by a "city" that is actually named only Prasart it's just that I never really paid it much attention except it was a place for a bite to eat and a piss break on the way to her family home. Also, I wasn't trying to give you a hard time about your transliteration, I thought that there might actually be a difference.
"how is your "khamen" guess you,,,,"
Its good and then again its not so good. I don't speak to many Thai that are not from that area so I have a real hard time knowing what is Thai and what is Khamen. But then again, for some reason which I have never understood, some of Tham's sisters also speak Lao and during family gatherings it can be a real zoo! What is even funnier is when our son is along with us and he and I will start speaking in a combination of Thai/Khamen, English and Japanese and the family starts looking at us as if we came from a different planet, which I am not so sure I didn't! ;)
All in all, I'm sorry that you had a bad experience there but it sounds like you enjoy what you are doing now so maybe it was time to get out anyway!?
Ichi
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Thai Girls : Meet Active Thai Girls
Posted on: 2:51 am on Jan. 13, 2003
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