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thaiprivateeye
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- how true P'ripper, a lot to be said for the simple little cutie living in Ban Nok and not yet corrupted by such matters, who is grateful for a 20bt tip to buy her somtum with ... oh, Ban Nok, - somtum only 15bt !
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 12:31 am on Oct. 28, 2002
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aurum
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it is easy made money, at least in their eyes, deniying the cars to the soul, and therefore easy spent, "you dont become rich earning alot, but spending a little"
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Bangkok Women : Meet Sensual Bangkok Women
Posted on: 11:49 am on Nov. 9, 2002
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bandit
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Another topic where there was no post for some time, so I will do post and bore the forum again.
One of my steadies who works as mamasan in one of the countless beer bars in Patong earns Baht 10000 a month plus 10 percent of what the customers pay for drinks and barfines.
Her working hours are from 08.00 p.m. until closing time at 02.00 a.m., sometimes half an hour or longer. She has one day per week off, usually on Sunday.
As the beer bar is quite big and there are usually 15 BGs working, it is good money for her. She accepts to get barfined, but she is very choosy about it.
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 8:01 am on Nov. 26, 2002
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bkkz
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Quote: from Packripper on 3:23 am on Oct. 28, 2002
The problem is that for whatever reason (poor genetics, lack of education, etc), they tend to spend more than they earn.
I don't think this is exclusive to the girls. I have been there and done that too often myself. Luckily, these days, I think more with head. 
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Sexy Bangkok Girls
Posted on: 2:45 pm on Nov. 26, 2002
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Chompoo
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The difference is that your career is not of such a limited length (assuming the alcohol poisoning and syphilis don't catch up to you!). When you're 60 and still have the same attitude then you've got a problem.
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 2:49 pm on Nov. 26, 2002
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MrJoe
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Chompoo makes a god point.
I would add my voice to BK though: Not only have I had times where I managed my Baht poorly, I have known lots of middle class Thais who did as well.
Errr...anyone ever hear of something called the bubble economy and subsequent economic crash?
Not to get too psychoanalytical but part of the reason BGs are reckless in their spending is, paradoxically, precisely because their life is so uncertain and they have so little control over it.
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Bangkok Women : Meet Beautiful Thai Girls
Posted on: 6:26 pm on Nov. 26, 2002
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Chompoo
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I don't actually have a problem with the live fast, die young approach. The problem is that too many people don't die young enough!
To add to the psychological analysis, I think a big part of it, either conscious or unconscious, is that bargirls and Thai families in general share their resources and use each other as a safety net. This is nominally a good thing, but it ends up being very inefficient in some ways. It is somewhat pointless to save, as undoubtedly that money will be "needed" by a family member in the future. You might as well spend it now and have a good time with it.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 6:36 pm on Nov. 26, 2002
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MrJoe
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Fully agree with all of Chompoo's last post. One can also generalize that many Asians (Buddhists) live more in the moment as time is cyclic rather than linear for them. And thus they are more fatalistic.
Generally speaking, long term thinking is not a typical strength. Obviously, just as our culture does, theirs has both inherent strengths and weaknesses -- sometimes the same thing! We love this country because of the Mai Ben Lai attitude (and other reasons) but Mai ben lai doesn't necessarily lead to fiscal probity.
A couple weeks ago I'm talking to a taxi driver and he's complaining about how no matter how much he drives, he still spends more on drinking with his buddies, and has to lie to his wife every night. He didn't know what he was going to do when the bills came. Then he paused, sighed and said with a smile :
"Alai ja gert, ja tawng gert." Whatever will happen, has to happen. (Almost as popular as mai ben lai.)
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Posted on: 6:48 pm on Nov. 26, 2002
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ABC
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Greetings:
BK: I am assuming since you are able to control your spending that you are thinking with the head that is on top of you neck between your shoulders?? ha ha ha ha!!
I also agree that this type of spending is not exclusive to females ingeneral let alone Thailand. I am sure many males are just as guilty if not worse.
Packripper:
I think that it is just human nature to spend more then you make or atleast spend more then you actually need to. Look at all the credit card debit, especially for people between the ages of 15 - 22 years old in the U.S. It's out of control and crazy!!
I do think that the females in BKK do live for today and not for the future. I mean. Realistically, what kinda of future do they have to look forward to?? Do many really think that they are going to get married and have the fairytail ending like in "Pretty Woman"?? Unfortunately, most will not.
I do dissagree with Chompoo's statement:
"The difference is that your career is not of such a limited length?"
I do not think it has much to do with career length. If that were the case, then they should be saving since soon they will not have any income.
But ...... ultimately, a person wants something they will have to sacrafice something to get it. Sometimes is money and other times is time.
I think many of us when we got our first jobs, probably spent 100% of the take home income on stuff and things. Savings was not really in the cards, because we've studied in school and now are able to buy whatever we want ... within reason.
Also, When ones income goes up, most of the time so does a person spending. That does not mean that they don't still save, but how many of us when our income increased 25% increased our saving as well??
One last comment. in my opinion, the "keeping up with the jones" complex also has a lot to do with a person spending habits.
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 7:47 pm on Nov. 26, 2002
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Chompoo
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I think that it is just human nature to spend more then you make or atleast spend more then you actually need to. Look at all the credit card debit, especially for people between the ages of 15 - 22 years old in the U.S. It's out of control and crazy!!
Perhaps it is human nature to live for the present at the expense of the future. As I said, I don't have a problem with that if it is thought out and the risks are balanced.
I do think that the females in BKK do live for today and not for the future. I mean. Realistically, what kinda of future do they have to look forward to?? Do many really think that they are going to get married and have the fairytail ending like in "Pretty Woman"?? Unfortunately, most will not.
Well, if they are smart and disciplined they can have a decent future. They can save a huge amount of money (for a lower-class Thai person) in a short amount of time if they set their minds to it. They fall into the easy trap of living for the present, which makes me feel less sympathy for them when they end up 40 yo without a dime.
I do not think it has much to do with career length. If that were the case, then they should be saving since soon they will not have any income.
You've completely missed the point. The point is that for the girls that decision is an extremely poor one. For those of us who don't rely on our bodies to make a living it is a much more reasonable trade-off.
I think many of us when we got our first jobs, probably spent 100% of the take home income on stuff and things. Savings was not really in the cards, because we've studied in school and now are able to buy whatever we want ... within reason.
Which is fine, ..., for a while.
Also, When ones income goes up, most of the time so does a person spending. That does not mean that they don't still save, but how many of us when our income increased 25% increased our saving as well??
I would venture the answer is close to "all of us." For the vast majority of people (in western civilization) an increase in salary is accompanied by at least a proportional increase in savings. Why would you think it to be otherwise?
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 8:04 pm on Nov. 26, 2002
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