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MrJoe
I'd have to agree with most of that Marco.


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Posted on: 4:48 am on Jan. 17, 2003
MX31
Guys...I was being cocky to prove the point about the reality of these girls.  There are so many guys just foolishly throwing their money away based on false trust displayed by the girls. (Generalization)

If I had just said "Oh, these girls are lying to you guys" does that have even an speck of impact?  I am new to this board but I cannot believe how seriously some (not all) take this topic.  

To protect oneself, okay...be serious as hell, but the overall idea of leaving the country and sending money back here is just IMHO, foolish.  If the girl was really serious, really quit having sex with other guys, really not hanging at/working at the bars, really going to school, really saving the money.......we could go on.  
(Generalization alert!) Then fine, it makes a little sense.  But, these girls are socialized from a young age in their villages and towns about how farangs are walking ATM machines and their friends teach them how to get the "PIN" number (figuratively speaking) by conning guys.  They are programmed in a way we have never experienced.  (Generalization alert!) Also, honesty and integrity are not as valued in Asia as in the West.  We are not used to that.

As for personal attacks geared toward my post at me...it's all fun.  But do you disagree with WHAT was said???


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Posted on: 6:03 am on Jan. 17, 2003
Yurune
After 16 years here...(unlike you of course I know nothing about Thai culture or speaking Thai)...we are very glad you've helped us in this matter....After all...nobody had ever discussed anything like this on this board.

Now your grandmother needs to learn how to suck eggs.

Nice to see the cockiness dropped a bit


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Posted on: 6:06 am on Jan. 17, 2003
Robert lomax
MX31 is as good as totally correct, but come on lads calm down a bit. Where talking about somthing that is fun.
If we start getting all 'heavy' about this it takes the fun out of it.
These girls are here to make money, we visit them to have a good time, if this can all be done with a good laugh, not getting all heavy. Treat the girls well, then everyone is a winner.


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Posted on: 6:13 am on Jan. 17, 2003
MIT
MX31,

While I agree with most your statements, I strongly  disagree that honesty and integrity are not as valued in Asia as in the West.  You mentioned "we are not used to that..."  Who is we???  

I'm Asian and I have spent half of my life in the West and half of it in Asia.   My personal value and experience suggest that Asian valued honesty and integrity as much as any other soceity in the world.  

Therefore, please speak for yourself when you make foolish comments like that.  

Oh, I forgort, maybe this is one of your cocky way to prove a point again.... that you and you only have no honor and integrity.  


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Posted on: 6:22 am on Jan. 17, 2003
Yurune
@RL....I agree...but there was only one member of the forum come in here all guns blazing telling people, about whom he know's nothing, how he know's everything and how great he is (not that his assessments of the culture were all that accurate)

I have no real arguement with his sentiments to sponsorship as such...just his methodology....

I note he made no attempt to answer my question

Some people ask for it

Case rested


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Posted on: 6:22 am on Jan. 17, 2003
MrJoe
I share Yurune's feelings of gratitude towards MX for giving us the benefit of his superior knowledge of All That Is True About Thailand. If only I had met him sooner I wouldn't have had to spend 20 years learning things for myself...

OK enough sarcasm and posturing. I too am glad to see a bit more civility from MX and as Yurune and I have both said -- he's not entirely wrong. But I don't blame MIT for being offended and I think MX might consider being a bit less chauvanistic and a bit more sensitive to the fact that we have plenty of Asian members and he is (apparently) residing in an Asian country.

As far as being taught in thier villages about how to exploit falangs...the assumption that it is common and traditional for all Thais to train thier daughters to be prostitutes is vile and simply bullshit. yes generalizations are sometimes necessary for the purpose of discussion but they should be based on what is GENERALLY true. MX's view of what is predominant in rural upbringing is not even close and it is very offensive to me.


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Posted on: 6:38 am on Jan. 17, 2003
MX31
This is fun!  Even after I wrote generalization alerts, it seemed to be lost in the message.  Ask a BG who taught them their "tricks of the trade" and you will find out it wasn't at Chulalongkorn.  I am really just poking fun at all of this but now that I see that people are taking anything written in a prostitution forum seriously, I better just change my tone!  ;)

Where on earth did I say I knew more than anyone else living here?  I just introduced a funny topic and people get all nutty.  Man...truth hurts.  Have a great night guys!  



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Posted on: 6:53 am on Jan. 17, 2003
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Posted on: 7:02 am on Jan. 17, 2003
MX31
Yo Guys,

this is a friend of MX's, call me SC.  I just dropped by my friends condo to see what he was up to tonight, only to find out he had been working on his new book, and had stumbled upon this great chat session. j/k

I have just read all responses as well as mx's bold retorts.  Let me start by saying I have known Mx almost the entire 5 years years I have lived here, and he is a bit on the cocky side.  however, if you knew him its kinda funny, and (Although, I would of been abit more subtle about it) he has a point.

one response someone gave was about people, teachers specifically, ending up with bar girls and getting trapped in a "jaws of life" relationship involving their family and children from other guy's.

To be honest with you, I have been living with a thai girl for about 2 years.  By the way, she is a nurse at a reputable hospital here in bangkok.  Anyway, she is a widow with a 3 year old daughter.  I think I am pretty knowledgable about how the "game" works here, and I can say 100% she will never ask for money for the family.  I am fortunate to still have an western income coming to me, so I do feel good to buy them small things from time to time, but I did preface this generosity to her when we started dated (knowing what was possible).  I was falling in love with her and not her family, and I did not want to get in the situation a have seen many, many times.

I guess what I am getting at, is that you guys should be aware that these girls are "Maistro's" (sp?) at this symphony, so just know your whats going on before you attend.

In conclusion, A dude wrote something that was 100% right on.  That is, its all fun and we should keep it that way.  So rock on getleman, and its friday night, go have some fun already.

Oh and feel free to keep slammimg MX, his ego needs it!!!!!j/k

SC

 


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Posted on: 7:15 am on Jan. 17, 2003
     

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