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casey
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Gee Chateaujade, you sound a bit miffed.
First, I don't necessarily pay the asking price because often times it is, in my opinion, to high......what is the right price I ask you? I find it to be one that I am comfortable with and one that she is comfortable with.
Secondly, I don't think you will be able to find one TG that I have every treated badly or rudely (even when we couldn't agree on price which is seldom the case).....that does not mean that I bend over the fender and let her drive me home when we talk money;
thirdly, I do not like being considered stupid and I think that any TG would be dealing with a stupid man if she asks for you to pay 20,000 baht for a LT and you do it;and
lastly, I don't take freebies unless it is someone very special that I can compensate in other ways.
I like the Thais a lot and I hope to continue to spend a great deal of time here but I also don't think it is my job to teach them to negotiate. That being said, I also try to always pay what I consider to be a fair price either by first deal of adding a tip if they are good.
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 2:10 am on Sep. 18, 2002
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chateaujade
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MrJoe and casey, I had neither of you in mind. MJ has often exempted himself from being a punter, and nothing casey has said (to my observation) makes him a cheap charlie or someone who thinks Thai girls are semi-human.
I would not likely pay 20,000 baht a night either. Not for "vanilla" anyway, and nowhere here are we talking about the entirely different economy of the fetish scene.
Casey, it is true that no one expects you to teach BGs to be better negotiators; yet I would be surprised if you took a girl for some low-end fee, then had a thoroughly marvellous time, that you would not see to her with an appropriate tip commensurate with your satisfaction?
You wouldn't under such circumstances take a hard and fast "Deal's a deal" posture and walk away leaving her with 500 baht? (or whatever)
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Bangkok Women : Meet Sensual Bangkok Women
Posted on: 2:40 am on Sep. 18, 2002
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bkkz
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I was in CM2 the other night, and was with a few TGs. One of the TGs came back and bitched about 2 instances where each guy wanted to take her back for 500 B! One of my TG friends told her to tell the next cheapskate to say, "Well for 500 B, I can rub your dick with my feet".
Really, I can't see myself ever giving less than 1,000B, neither can I see myself giving more than 10,000 B, although I have come close to that! 
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 3:08 am on Sep. 18, 2002
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chateaujade
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BK 55555 to the 5th power...
She could have offered them 'plaa haa hua' for dinner, that's five headed fish, aka a foot.
Maybe the Thai cultural context re feet needs to be explicitly stated so they can feel properly insulted...
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Sexy Bangkok Girls
Posted on: 3:17 am on Sep. 18, 2002
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MrJoe
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I've heard TGs use the less elegant but perhaps equally deserved "You give your mother (INSERT LOW RATE) and sleep with her!"
Not directed at me of course!)
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 3:24 am on Sep. 18, 2002
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nokna
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my girl,Nok told me a story once.
she was being chatted up by an american sailor and he wanted to BF her and she said ok.
he then offered her 200 for S/T.
her reply?-'you go f_ck dog'!!!
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Bangkok Women : Meet Beautiful Thai Girls
Posted on: 3:56 am on Sep. 18, 2002
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Jumping Jack
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Got to feel sorry for Mr Nobody who started this thread with some simple well asked questions
Hay Mr Nobody - are you still there - Its not always like this
Sometimes the board can be friendly - honest
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 4:26 am on Sep. 18, 2002
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Chompoo
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Wow, I'm glad there are people here who have the wisdom and the time to inform me what I should find FUN and feel the need to dictate how I should spend my money and how much I spend.
Can't you guys get it that the amount of money you pay the girls has nothing to do with how much respect you have for them or how you treat them otherwise. Some guys pay 500B and treat the girls well, some guys pay 3000B and treat the girls like dirt.
Organizing to keep prices artificially low (as punters sometimes try to do) is immoral and for most businesses it would be illegal. ÝPaying the going rate based on supply and demand is the only fair and respectful way to look at this BUSINESS.
If I want to spend all night looking for the cheapest, dirtiest girl I can, then it is absolutely none of your f_cking business. The hypocrisy is amazing. ÝYou lambaste us for not showing respect to the girls and then you throw in a snide comment about the '125 Baht' girls being so beneath us. ÝPlease tell me the exact cutoff point so I know which girls you think I should look down on.
And what happens to those 500B or 125B girls if we set an artificial price of 2000B? ÝSeems like you should save at least a little compassion for them since you propose taking away their livelihood.
Sex via prostitution in Thailand is a commodity. If anyone wants to maintain the illusion that it is something more, be my guest. ÝIf it makes you happy, why would I care? Just don't try to force your delusions on others.
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Thai Girls : Meet Active Thai Girls
Posted on: 6:02 pm on Sep. 18, 2002
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Tyler Durdin
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OK, this has certainly been an interesting post to follow, and now I will throw in my 2 cents worth. Let me start by saying that many of you have brought up great points and if nothing else, at least everyone is being honest and sticking to their points. Now, if anyone knows me, I am the least confrontational guy out there, so I am not looking to flame anyone or stir up the pot. In fact, if anyone has any issues with me, let me know, we will meet as friends, I'll buy you a beer and we can (hopefully) leave as even better friends.
The theme of my post is "more power to you". If you get a girl for 5000bht and you have a great time and feel great about yourself, then hey, "more power to you". If you can get a girl for 500bht and can still feel good about yourself, again "more power to you". Personally, I try to take care of the girls as much as my can because in my opinion, these girls are absolute Survivors. If I was put in the same situation, I don't know if I have the mustard that some of these poor girls have in the situations that they subject themselves to.
But getting down to cold hard cash, I have given the girls anywhere from 1500bht to 5000bht at a time, and yes, you can tell me I am driving up the prices, berate me for overpaying, and call me a sucker for falling for their stories but I have no regrets. I have had amazingly good times with these girls and have compensated them well for it, and for me, it has been worth every penny and I consider myself fortunate. In return, I hope these girls have enjoyed their time with me, albeit a few hours or a few days. I treat the girls with respect, try for more than a quick bang (usually), try to make them smile, and show them a good time. I'm not disillusioned either, I know these girls have seen it all and nothing I do will dazzle them enough for them to stop working and wait for me and my return visit but at least during the time we had together, hopefully we carved out a good time that both of us can fondly remember. If you want to treat them like sexual pieces of "meat" for the sole purpose of your own enjoyment, haggle tooth and nail to get the price down before you walk out the door with them, wait until they are stripped raw and desperate, and still feel like you are "the man", then by all means, go nuts! If you get off on knowing how little you paid for a girl or how you "showed her up" by not overpaying, I hope you truly feel good about yourself. That's just not my bag, baby!
I am not telling anyone how they should conduct themselves because we are all big boys here and know the rules, I'm just trying to do my part and do what makes me allow myself to sleep better at night. Just like if I see a stray piece of trash in the street, I pick it up and dispose of it properly, I know I am not solving the world's pollution problem right there but I'm trying to do what I can to help (before anyone protests, I am not comparing BGs to trash, on the contrary, these girls in my book are held in higher esteem than most people I know due to what they do to survive).
Sure, some of these girls are Mercs and push for more money/try to get the most out of you as soon as they meet you but that doesn't seem to be the norm in my experience. Usually, they are pretty sweet and shy about prices (which makes me want to give them even more) and they don't seem to mind staying with me (instead of hitting the door as soon as we are done). I know some cynics will say that it is their "trick" and maybe it is but I'll gladly fall for it. In fact, I question all the "freebies" some of the brothers have been bragging about recently (especially on the 1st night), is it a situation of the brothers being so damn irresistible or is it actually a case of the girls simply being too shy to ask or too intimidated by a guy outweighing them by over 100lbs? In my humble opinion, it is the latter. And even if the girl didn't ask for money, why wouldn't you want her to have some anyway? Why wouldn't you want to help her out when it means a mere extra few dollars to you? Come on guys, do the right thing.
Bottom line is, if there was no money involved, how many girls would be around? Not too many, so we know what it's all about, but you don't have to go out of your way to rub their faces in it and make it apparent of what is going on 100% of the time by nickel and diming them to death. I have read many posts of brothers indicating they are turned off by a girl that starts quoting prices from the get-go, why would these girls feel any different on the reverse? In reading through the past thread, I think CJ, TPE, CMore and Nokna (to name a few) actually "get it", so my hats off to you guys, and I would gladly sit down with you and buy you a beer anytime.
Like I said, if you can justify what you do to yourself (whether it is underpay or overpay), then good for you! You don't need to defend yourself to anybody else. I do what I feel is the right thing and that's all I ask of anyone else. I honestly believe in Karma, and what goes around will come around. That's all there is to it! Cheers! Hope to meet up with a few of you soon.
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 6:10 pm on Sep. 18, 2002
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BigDUSA
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BK,
I bet their are a number of guys on this board with a foot fetish who would "hunt" that girl down, if she would be willing to rub their dick with her foot for only 500 baht.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 6:20 pm on Sep. 18, 2002
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