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mlay
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I hope get married soon with my TGF..but not sure.
I know that i have to pay a amount to the family for that.
They are different case but
how much ?
Which amount the family expect ?
100 k ? 200 k ?
Any help are welcome.
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 11:49 am on April 16, 2003
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chilli
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depends:
BG -> 30k tops
Upper class virgin -> you don't wanna know (1mill.+++)
of course you can just decline to pay at all & see if she/they still accets you & your farang customs?
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 12:58 pm on April 16, 2003
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thaiprivateeye
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It is a "face" thing in most cases, often a large amount is given, but half returned under the table, also in the case of influential thais, they receive envelopes often containing large sums, as wedding gifts, so they get some back - also, it supposedley compensates for the girl no longer supporting her family ... but I am sure you will continue to get asked to assist! You need to talk to the parents, say you will not be paying a big amount, but you will help out if they have problems in the future, I would think 50,000 - plus some gold for mum and a Johnny Black for father would suffice in that case -
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Sexy Bangkok Girls
Posted on: 1:24 am on April 17, 2003
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blade
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Got this article from Bernard Trink (Bangkok post) some time ago, albeit entertaining....
The amount you pay depends on the social class of the girl (By Bernard Trink)
I'm a second generation Thai-American, born and raised in the States. My girlfriend attends university in Bangkok. I proposed marriage and she accepted, after she graduates in about three years. When we visited, my family and hers agreed that we'd make a suitable couple. My dilemma is that her mum wants a 10 million baht dowry.
That's about US$240,000. I'm 22 and a recent graduate. We're not rich. Where are we supposed to get it? Is this a Thai tradition? I've never heard of such greed. I'm not against dowries on principle, but this is ridiculous. We'd pay a reasonable amount if we knew how they are determined.
B.T.: A number of readers have encountered the dowry issue and looked into it. The analysis by a farang teaching university here explains the system best.
Although there are no absolutes, the amount of the dowry is pretty well fixed vis-a-vis the girl's social standing and is rarely negotiated. If the girl comes from a good family (i.e. honest, not necessarily rich), a good portion is usually returned to the bride and groom.
A symbolic show of commitment on the part of the prospective groom, indicating his ability to support his bride, it is given back to help the new couple start their life together.
In general, the amounts according to social standing are as follows:
a) Lower-class up-country girl, 30,000 to 50,000
b) Middle-class girl, 50,000 to 100,000;
c) Upper middle-class girl, 100,000 to 200,000
d) Upper-class girl, 200,000+.
e) For a girl from a well-established Thai family, expect to pay 1,000,000 and up.
As for bar girls: What they should get (about 20,000 to 30,000 ) and what they demand (whatever the traffic will bear) is outside this tradition as they have no social standing in the minds of the Thais, and aren't known to follow the rules (i.e. they keep all the money).
The chances of any farang getting into the 200,000 strata is pretty remote, if not nearly impossible. At that level, the Thais are a particularly clannish and exclusive
lot, viewing most farangs as barbarians, even if they're rich.
B.T.: 10 million baht? Not even if it was made of platinum! "TIT" (This Is Thailand).
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 6:46 am on April 17, 2003
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mlay
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Thank's..
I just got a call with my GF.
She talk with her mama and papa about the amount.
She expect 200 k !!
I guess it's a lower class family
Well this is already a big amount for me...and for the family..
But love make you blind...
I'have to talk about that during my next trip in june.
Till there I know what I have to do...save my salary.
145 k /month. net :- (
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Posted on: 8:38 am on April 17, 2003
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I am just about the same situation. Found a Thai girl and we fall in love with each other. We plan to marry end of the year. She is no working girl, has an university degree, is well mannered and speaks fluent English. She has won several pretty contests, too. Her father is mayor of his village, they have a big house and a car, so I would rate them middle, maybe even upper class people.
She is from Isaan and when talking about marriage she gave me a hint that Issan people (=her family) are very thai traditional and would expect a dowry. I have no problem with this, but also no idea how much this amount might be. The topics before suggest arround 200.000+ baht for a girl of her class. To avoid losing face when with her parents I start to ask her about the expected sum. The amount she mentioned seemed to be way too high, though. She told me her parents would expect 700.000 baht. Is this a reasonable amount for a girl like her?
One more question. Is it possible to bargain for the dowry? I mean this is Thailand and if you buy some stuff you usually end up paying 50% of the first offer they make to you, if you bargain well. Please dont flame me. I know that buying is not the right word for getting a girl to marry, however I think you know what I mean. So is it possible to bargain for dowries or will I lose face? My Teerak told me she would not want any money, so she will still love me, no matter how much I pay. That would not be the problem.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 4:48 pm on Mar. 27, 2005
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LastSurvivor
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I have a limited experience with this so I'm not sure I can offer any advice. I can tell you that the girl I met in Feb '05 said her dowry would be 180k. I think that roughly is about 5k in U.S. dollars. She is from Isaan and her father is a member of the Thai army. She has one brother and one sister. She has 12 years of education and with my help will return to University in 3 months. I can not tell you how she arrived at the 180k figure but she did not hesitate when my thai friend asked her how much for her to marry and move back to America. Seems like something she had discussed with the parents beforehand. Hope that helps. I have not decided what I will do.
LS
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Posted on: 6:39 pm on Mar. 27, 2005
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Scout
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Dont get married if you are not sure...
Another scenario, Downry "can" be given back to the guy, in my family at least, depends on an agreement made between two family. After the wedding ceremony, big downry given back to the guy's family or to the married couple, not the bride's family, this is because sometimes downry is just a tradition, just to show off and saving face of the Bride family.
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 9:53 pm on Mar. 27, 2005
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scobie
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Dowry, my arse. Tell her that as a farang, you have customs also and that giving dowry is not one of them. Why should we as farang 'fall in' with everything as if we have no rights ourself? Do our customs not matter?
If I was to marry a local and her parents wanted a dowry I'd be out of there like a shot.
There are some 'local' customs that are just wrong. This is one of them.
Ad hoc and 'from the heart' assistance to a girl's family is one thing (although it seems the amount of help a girl's family 'needs' is inexplicably linked to the farang's perceived wealth). But institutionalised rorting in the guise a 'custom' is taking the piss.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 11:46 pm on Mar. 27, 2005
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