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BobFiveHead
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I look at myself in the mirror everyday, and what I see is not a pretty sight. So I am in Thailand and go to a soapy and get treated like Tab Hunter for 90 minutes and have sex with some of the best looking girls that I have ever seen. And you want me to tip them 100-200 baht? Mmmmm.
And I know that workers in Thailand earn next to nothing, but this lady has just had sex with me. That truely is above and beyond the call of duty for most occupation fields.
Here's how I see it. Sure she is at the height of the Thai pay scale, but she had to have sex with someone like me to get there. That to me is worth something. I've never had a real bad experience at a MP and I think the lowest tip I've given was 300 or 400 baht. Most of the time its 500, and every so often I feel so lucky that it reaches a 1000.
But the tip is given by me. It is not negotiated. And it is given after all services have been rendered, after I'm dressed and ready to walk out the door.
So I'm sorry if my tipping is causing your tips to also rise (although I don't see why this should be), but I just can't help myself at times.
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 9:15 pm on May 5, 2005
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Oldtimer
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When we to came to LOS 35 plus years ago, I sometimes used to tip massage girls baht 500 and received an amazed wai. Now, I still tip baht 500 and get a decent wai.
The girls don't expect much in the way of a tip from their Japanese customers. Thus the official tarrif is usually higher...also the session is over a lot sooner...with little wear and tear. The Brits are also known to be cheap tippers compared to the Germans and Yanks. The Aussies sometimes forget to tip at all, but when they do they tend to be generous.
If you are resident in Thai and speak fairly decent lingo, the girls don't expect a big tip. That's our experience anyway.
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Bangkok Women : Meet Sensual Bangkok Women
Posted on: 9:39 pm on May 5, 2005
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Mr Alan
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Quote: from Broken Leg on 6:01 pm on May 5, 2005
Yep, but that is the point i'm making. whereas for Americans it would be culturally ingrained to tip (for economic reasons), and therefore perhaps even morally offensive not to tip (cheap charlie at the very least) in Europe the idea is a tip has to be earned not given. If service is great then fine a tip is given, if it is just average or worse then we don't feel obliged to tip.
After all I don't see an economic reason to tip here, these girls choose there work and earn many time the national wage.
No, you still don't get it. It's not "cultural for economic reasons" it is self serving on the part of the tipper. If you get good service and don't tip, you will not get ANY service the next time you go back to that restaurant. It is certainly permissible to not tip if service was poor, and it happens all the time, and in that case the server knows why they did not get a tip (or the tip was small) and will not complain (and will worry that the customer will complain to the restaurant manager).
In the US (unlike socialist EU) people are more likely to get what they deserve in the way of wages, and tipping is the best way to do that for service industries (since the service received can vary from customer to customer).
But actually, one of the reasons that fast food restaurants are so popular is that there is no one to tip, since you order at the counter and pick up your food, and (often) dispose of your waste in the trash bin. That saves 15% off your food bill, which can add up to a lot of money for a family over a year’s time. Even some establishments that are not really fast food restaurants have “cafeteria style” service in the US that avoids the tipping process.
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 10:18 pm on May 5, 2005
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Packripper
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What's >too much< in the eyes of some is really irrelevant. There will always be that segment of the population and clientele here that will always tip WELL above the average rate. Myself I'm a 500-1000 tip person, but have friends who tip in the 2000-5000+ range. And this is often outside of soapies where 'full service' isn't provided immediately >as in places like the Resort, the Piano, etc.<, but often after 2-3 days tipping in a row.
Self serving? No kidding.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Sexy Bangkok Girls
Posted on: 10:19 pm on May 5, 2005
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mrhugo
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Tipping is a personal matter. If you are happy with the service, why not respond accordingly with a good tip.
Remember that these girls would gladly exchange places with any of us in a heartbeat. Many of these girls would gladly want a normal life (working in a office, marrying and having a normal life). Even though they will make more money than their daytime counterparts, they will never have the same level of respect.
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 10:43 pm on May 5, 2005
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Broken Leg
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Mr Redneck,
Yes you are right America is no way, shape or form has a tipping culture.
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Bangkok Women : Meet Beautiful Thai Girls
Posted on: 10:44 pm on May 5, 2005
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Mr Alan
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Mr Fascist:
Tipping is common in the USA, but not a cultural thing, just a way of doing business. In other countries the cost of service is included in the price or automatically added on to the bill regardless of whether the service was good or not, such as 10% service charge added on to many hotel bills in LOS. There are no hotels in the USA that add a service charge on your bill. You pay if and when you receive good service.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 1:30 am on May 6, 2005
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Hugh Jardon
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So, Mr Alan, people who don't tip are fascists, eh? I hadn't realised that was a characteristic of the ideology of the extreme right wing.
I'd be interested in your thought processes that led you to this conclusion, but the trouble is that this would take the thread way off beam.
In your eyes though, I'm afraid that I'm more in the Fascist camp than the Communist one (the big tippers, presumably). On the one hand we have this debate that tipping is culturally ingrained in most of the Farang World and in America it is 50% higher than in most European countries (15% instead of 10%). On the other hand, we have guys here insisting that somehow it is fair to tip at double or treble that level. Where's the sense in that?
The tipping culture in USA is justified by argument that the people tipped are typically low paid (so American service industry employers are cheapskates, eh?) On the other hand, the example is given that Thailand Hotels add a 10% service charge on the bill anyway. Presumably, because you've saved 5% on the hotel bill, you have an urge to go and pay that money to the next girl you have sex with. 
The original premise of the debate was that Soapy MP girls are amongst the best paid people in LOS, so comparisons with low paid workers in Farangland are spurious. I'm all for tipping for good service, but if anybody thinks that precedents of super generous tipping won't up the ante for all the others, then they need their heads examined.
I don't for one minute think that we realistically pay too much attention to the altruistic aspects of the sex industry; that these are poor girls forced to do immoral and demeaning work and that by tipping them large amounts, we are somehow assuaging our conscience that we are much better off than them. Most of us don't think of this as Social Work; we just want a good f***. We are certainly not on morally higher ground for going with prostitutes. So we ought to look at it solely on the basis that we are paying a gratuity based on the quality of the service provided. The difference between this and tipping a waiter/ waitress, is that this is a two way interaction. Their service to us is often better because we have paid some attention to making it better for them too.
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Thai Girls : Meet Active Thai Girls
Posted on: 2:49 am on May 6, 2005
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Singhabeer
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Still the question is….how much to tip is good enough.
I understand that sometimes the monger is sooooo happy that he decides right away to give the lady way over “standard 500Bht”. This is perhaps due to his willing to show her how happy he is with her, or how rich he is. I, myself, happened to tip more than 500 Bht on a couple of occasions, as I was crazy over her personality and wanted to help her a bit more in her struggle for her new house or her daughter education, whatever.
But why is the standard comes to 500Bht? And why we consider to pay less than 500 Bht as offensive to the lady?
I think the clever lady who just got 200Bht of a tip understands that that was the willing of the man to tip her, and this does not show that he is not happy with her or with her service. However, I guess that due to a well known Thai principles to stick to standards, the most MP ladies would expect at least standard 500Bht. Anyway, I agree with those guys who says that to tip over “standard 500Bht” should be a very rare case, so to say “not to spoil the girls….they are spoiled enough”.
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 3:43 am on May 6, 2005
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harold444
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after reading many of your posts I think ill start tipping more......lol. just to rile you cheap charlies!
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 3:46 am on May 6, 2005
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