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nikko
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Thanks griffin. I assumed they were getting a better cut from Darlings. I would probably be inclined to give a better tip for good service knowing they are getting less than 40%, but also not someplace I hit all that often. And I think Packrip is right, being a regular somewhere and having greased the wheels of commerce virtually ensures good service.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 10:47 am on Nov. 25, 2002
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kmanrox
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i had my first MP experience at Darlings last week, and the girls werent too hot... i paid 2500 up front and tipped her 1k..... call me a boring old man, but for the price (albeit a zillion times cheaper than in the states) i could have got a couple of cm2 girls LT..... maybe i just have an askewed outlook on it...
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Bangkok Women : Meet Sensual Bangkok Women
Posted on: 11:12 am on Nov. 25, 2002
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griffin
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kman, that's what i was trying to tell before!
knowing the kind of girls you go for i would strongly suggest that next time you should better check out these places:
cupidty in plaza entertainment (better selection quality and quantity wise also a lot cheaper at thb 1,800) or the ratchada places in average same price but much, much better quality on stock than in darlings!
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 11:14 am on Nov. 25, 2002
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kmanrox
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i'll have to check those out griff, thx =)
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Sexy Bangkok Girls
Posted on: 11:19 am on Nov. 25, 2002
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Chompoo
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We're tipping 20-100% in many bars back in the US just buying drinks. I don't think a 50% or so tip here for a little more than serving your coffee will kill ya.
You're neglecting the fact that the service itself costs a lot more and the cost of living is a lot less. This kind of analogy is useless, IMO.
Good service costs money.
This is only relevant if you are a repeat customer. For most visitors to Thailand, overtipping will not get them better service. But there is a subtle art (which I have not mastered) of indicating that you are willing to tip generously if the service is great.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 4:41 pm on Nov. 25, 2002
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Packripper
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^
Regarding the cost of service. IMO, the cost of service anywhere is almost nothing. Because in the end it's the cost of human sweat and acting skills on how well you're serviced (sexually and non-sexually) anywhere in the world. I was just looking at it from a numbers perspective (as most businessmen would).
Agree regarding the repeat customer thing. If one is not a repeat customer in any establishment, tipping is pretty much useless from a practical standpoint (although I'd have to admit that I still try to tip well even if I think I'll never be in Tucson, Arizona again in this life). You don't have an opportunity to "get credit" for it. But for me, I know these people have a good memory, it's a small world, AND in the end, the cost of gratuity is minimal.
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Bangkok Women : Meet Beautiful Thai Girls
Posted on: 10:59 pm on Nov. 25, 2002
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Groundpounder
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What's an acceptable tip if you go for a traditional massage (500 baht at CP2 as I recall), and then go on to have sex with your MP (without any price negotiation).
Surely, under those circumstances, a 1,000 baht tip is more appropriate than a 500 baht one?
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 8:17 am on Nov. 26, 2002
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griffin
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well full sex would be more a thb 1,000 tip, you are right! just compare to places like euro inn or barans the girls there usually demand thb 1,500 for extra full course, so here we go!
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Posted on: 8:45 am on Nov. 26, 2002
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Chompoo
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Regarding the cost of service. IMO, the cost of service anywhere is almost nothing. Because in the end it's the cost of human sweat and acting skills on how well you're serviced (sexually and non-sexually) anywhere in the world. I was just looking at it from a numbers perspective (as most businessmen would).
With all due respect, if you use this math to run a business it wouldn't last very long 
1) You say that a MP girl should be tipped more because the service she offers is "more than serving coffee" and argue this justifies a 50% tip vs. 20% tip. If you're buying a cup of coffee in Thailand for 2000B then you might have point with this line of reasoning, but even Starbucks only charges 85B or so. At Starbucks I give them the extra 15B, at MPs I certainly tip a lot more than 15B (and by the way, the girls at Starbucks get very little of that initial 85B).
2) How do you correlate wages, let alone tips, in America vs. wages in Thailand? There is no rational basis to say "I tip X dollars for this service in America, so I should tip X dollars in Thailand." What you can decide is that "I can give X dollars to a bartender in America and it means almost nothing to her, but if I give X dollars to a Thai MP girl it will make her day." That is not about what is right, but what makes you feel good.
Agree regarding the repeat customer thing. If one is not a repeat customer in any establishment, tipping is pretty much useless from a practical standpoint (although I'd have to admit that I still try to tip well even if I think I'll never be in Tucson, Arizona again in this life). You don't have an opportunity to "get credit" for it. But for me, I know these people have a good memory, it's a small world, AND in the end, the cost of gratuity is minimal.
You are not differentiating between giving a fair tip for the service that is performed and what I call "overtipping." Not giving a fair tip is ethically wrong. When you "overtip" it is either because you expect something in return (better future service) or enjoy donating money to individuals who haven't earned it.
Your heart may be in the right place, but don't pretend it's anything other than charity (which sometimes is truly benevolent, but many times is just about making the giver feel good or look important).
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 1:25 pm on Nov. 26, 2002
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Packripper
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;)
Actually, the math I use to run our businesses is to pay people as little as humanly possible and to take as big a cut out of the pie with each slice (which incidentally is the formula for most MPs, "no pay" + "percentage split of each slice" ). It's worked pretty well for XXXXXXXXXXXXXX, although I must admit I'm probably more generous to our XXXXXXXX Mexican XXXXXXXXXXXXXX stateside than to our XXXXXXXXXXXX.
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My tipping habits are indeed part charity, part payment for future service (more of the latter).** Since it's all relative (and I do feel I get what I'm paying for), I don't believe it is "overtipping or over paying" or not. I feel that the results are fairly tangible. I'm certainly not one to throwaway money on the intangible (or else I'd be no different from the class of people who can't seem to hold on to their money at all). And actually, when I actually do tip, I don't really calculate the percentages (was just doing so for the benefit of those who do), it's just what 'feels' about right (and if once in a long long while..... "feels right" = zero, then zero it is). And although it might make the girl feel happy, it's not really about her feeling happy. Life is surely about what makes Packripper happy (and that's continued good service by those who are here to serve him).
For myself, at Starbucks (counter style) I don't tip a thing because I don't feel any gratuity is required (I would if say they had to bring it to my table). I don't feel they would be able to up the level of service to any particular customer even if they wanted to. P4P however is another ball game for me. I continue to be surprised by girls who go the 'extra mile,' because (IMO) I'm generally a nice guy in the room and because of reputation of gratuity.
Actually, I'd be just as happy being one of the fewer people tipping (or few people 'overtipping') in town. That's why I always advise strangers"up to you," because for most people, that means zero tip or very little of a tip. I mean, if the service was only 1900, and you tip 500,1000, 1500... wouldn't that 'hard earned money' be better spent to buy yourself another round (another girl) somewhere else?
*for my friends, I'll still say 'up to you...' but if they ask for an amount, I'll just say 500, 1000, 5000.... what do you think?
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 11:03 pm on Nov. 26, 2002
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