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ColoradoGuy
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Quote: from harold444 on 9:07 am on Nov. 10, 2004
but I wish they would all ignore me when I go in. what happens is they usually say hello and stick to my side.
Tell them to go away and come back in 5 minutes. Easy. If you insist they leave, they will.
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Posted on: 3:25 am on Nov. 10, 2004
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Cat Woods
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Quote: from Gus on 12:58 am on Nov. 10, 2004
Pack
you made some good points there, however if we are unlikely to visit the MP again in the next 12 months then tipping is not quite so important.
Ha! Everytime I go to an MP, I always look forward to returning within a week. I never have an assumption (either before or after the massage) that I will not return in the next 12 months.
But again, I am also reluctant to tip the papasans or managers. I would prefer to save money to tip the persons who provide the intimate services.
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Posted on: 10:24 am on Nov. 10, 2004
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Shockadelica
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However I also think that anything more than 500Baht is consider excessive. Again 99% of the time. they are happy with 400 to 500Baht.
On my first LOS trip I tipped a girl at Darling 600baht and she said she wanted 1000. I said no and she still persisted as we were walking downstairs. I told her to leave it out and walked off. Kind of spoilt the illusion of a nice time.
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Posted on: 5:52 pm on Nov. 13, 2004
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TJ
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Quote: from Packripper on 11:22 pm on Nov. 9, 2004
Yeah, to each his own. Myself I find that tipping and being known as a good tipper brings better service. It's no different than walking into a bar or club in the west where the service staff all know you because you tip well and not having to wait in line to get in like most people do, because you regularly tip the security crew.
I see cheer guests and mamasans, etc. ignoring customers all the time. The reason is that they know there is an endless line of them who will happily pick from the bottom on the barrel and be happy with it, and because many of these punters don't provide a constant income source in terms of gratuity. Why go the extra mile? But if you put these people in your debt, which is the name of the game just about everywhere, you can make withdrawals from the favor bank just about whenever you want. You'll find out when new 'talent' comes in, who to really avoid, and who is really a good choice. A cheer guest that really takes care of you is like a good personal servant. But you have to pay your servants.
I think this is an excellent, and pragmatic view of things. I appreciate this far more than the "jai dee" BS that the white knights put forth.
What follows, is an unsolicited opinion that serves no purpose other than bitching about an unsolvable problem. But that's just what's going to follow: 
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It seems like something of an arms race to me. You get better service so long as they're "indebted" to you. Ostensibly, they become indebted to you when you give them extra money; the more money, the more indebted, the more prone to extra favors/information, etc.
But once other people start doing it, once others match what you provide, the amount you normally provide becomes par for the course. They no longer feel particularly indebted to you, as everyone gives them that amount of money. It becomes expected. In fact, whereas there were previously two primary classes of service: Normal and Special, there are now three: Terrible, Normal, and Special. Where Special now only occurs when you tip more than everyone else, and Terrible occurs when you pay what would appear to be the correct amount, but does not have the unstated tax that the tip amounts to.
Which is of course where the arms race analogy comes into play. You're only able to command favors when the amount of money you provide is sufficiently greater than that which most others provide; ie, when you distinguish yourself from the crowd.
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It amuses me that, in some ways, one's ability to use tips to gain favors depends on the existence of others that do not tip, or at least not as well.
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Posted on: 3:07 am on Nov. 16, 2004
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