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Slippy1
Hi Guys, a quick question for all you foodies out there - just how easy or diffcult is it to buy corned beef in Thailand? Fresh or in tins/cans? I have looked in a few supermarkets, like Big C in Pattaya, but never found it. Probably not looking hard enough or looking on the wrong shelves or something, eh? Thanks.



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Posted on: 5:27 pm on May 30, 2004
Mr Alan
I don't know if they have it, but I would try the Emporium grocery store at Suk 24.


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Posted on: 5:41 pm on May 30, 2004
bkkz
If you are in Bangkok, Foodland has them. I buy that stuff regularly. Now, I am hungry.


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Posted on: 7:04 pm on May 30, 2004
Old Hand
You don't mean the "Fray Bentos" type stuff in tins?? Called in the trade "mechanically recovered meat" or some such.

I once read what goes into that.......

I'd rather eat Sai Moo or Kreung Nai here - at least whatever is in there is relatively fresh!


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Posted on: 2:36 am on May 31, 2004
Slippy1
Thanks for the help everybody.

I will check out Foodland & the Emporium next time I am in Thailand - if I can get a regular supply then my wife and I can take some up country next time we go to the village. She can then make corned beef hash for me when everybody else is eating the local delicacies.

As with most things today there is no doubt going to be some kind of production line involved if the food is being mass produced before going to market. However I do not know if corned beef is commonly known in the trade as mechanically recovered meat. Is that not the meat which is commonly known by consumers as a big mac?

The kind of corned beef I am thinking of also used to be known as "bully beef" when it was eaten by troops in the First World War. Some links to websites with a bit more information about corned beef follow:

http://ask.yahoo.com/ask/20000317.html

http://www.kitchenproject.com/history/CornedBeef.htm


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Posted on: 5:45 am on June 13, 2004
Mr Alan
I don't know about bully beef or WWI, but in the US corned beef is sold 3 ways.

1. Uncooked, sold as an entire beef brisket in a plastic bag with the brine and other spices inside. The brisket is about 2 kilos and takes several hours to cook in an oven.

2. Already cooked and sold by weight in a deli or grocery store. Also sold as sandwiches in some restaurants. Probably the best corned beef sandwiches in the world are available from NY, USA delis (Carnegie Deli and 2nd Avenue Deli are among the best).

3. Canned corned beef, which I don't know too much about because I assume it is terrible (I don't like canned meats). Maybe this is what the WWI soldiers ate?


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Posted on: 5:59 am on June 13, 2004
Slippy1
Cheers Mr Alan. Not sure if the corned beef available in the US is the same as that you get in the UK (where I live).

I have never been to the USA but my parents go there on holiday a lot and told me the corned beef in the US is "not the same as at home". But I guess that observation is true for a lot of us for a lot of different food stuffs.

Many older people in the UK will tell you that in the war US troops used to trade stuff with the British squaddies for the British corned beef rations - even tho' it was tinned corned beef. If it is true I suppose that could mean the US and UK versions of corned beef are different and that US troops liked the UK version enough to trade cigarettes for it.

Since starting this thread I have discussed it with my Thai wife. She cooks me corned beef hash quite a bit here in the UK and adds a few birds eye chillies to give it a bit of bite. Lovely. Anyway she said to me - "oh they sell corned beef in Big C in Pattaya I have seen it there". She never told me when we were there looking for it!

So at least I know now I will be able to get the kind of corned beef I like the next time we are holiday in LOS.

Thanks for all the help guys.



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Posted on: 12:16 pm on June 13, 2004
NaughtiusMaximus
It is also called 'Spam' that is the brand name in Oz, at least I think it is corned beef, you slice that sh_t and all the jello falls off from the sides, kinda disgustiong stuff, fresh corned beef however is great, specially with mustard sauce and spuds, hmmmmm.


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Posted on: 1:18 am on June 14, 2004
Mr Alan
In the USA, Spam (made by Hormel) is something different. The original variety is made of pork (spicy ham), so I don't know how it could be called corned beef.

http://www.hormel.com/brands/brandview3.asp?id=2&catitemid=3



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Posted on: 1:28 am on June 14, 2004
Abrak
'Spam' is a brand name for that glutinous pork stuff. I think it was some sort of play on 'spiced meat' (oops spiced ham as corrected by Mr Alan)

This led to the Monty Python 'Spam song'

Lovely Spaaam! Wonderful Spaaam!
Lovely Spaaam! Wonderful Spam.

Spa-a-a-a-a-a-a-am.
Spa-a-a-a-a-a-a-am.
Spa-a-a-a-a-a-a-am.
Spa-a-a-a-a-a-a-am.

Lovely Spaaam! (Lovely Spam!)
Lovely Spaaam! (Lovely Spam!)
Lovely Spaaam!

Spaaam, Spaaam, Spaaam, Spaaaaaam!

Errr which led to the modern day usage of 'email spam' or possibly internet posting 'spam'.


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Posted on: 1:34 am on June 14, 2004
     

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