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nokna
i had first met Sa around a year previously, but had not really spent quality time with her.
and I know I was a bit bad to her on one occassion, and this time I was determined to make sure things were better.
Sa had gone home for a while and had arrived back in Patong the previous day and as I said was on the look-out for me.
she was 34 and not the best looker by all means, but her personality was fantastic.
she had 2 kids (her daughter is one of the cutest little girls I have ever seen) and to be honest her body was quite bad really, but it's not everything is it?
she was well educated, had taught herself English, French, German and Spanish.
in bed she was incredible and I always enjoyed having her.
only thing she didn't do was anal and always insisted on facial or CIM.
and another one who I didn't use a condom with.

went back to her bar and and had a spot of lunch and passed the day away.
from my comfy chair at the front of the bar, I had a close up view of around 12 other bars and again a good place to watch the daily business of the thais.
in Soi Seadragon, many of the bars have girls living above them and I would see many of the girls in various states of dress and I found it cute to see them walking about in a towel.

but as I sat there I was a bit down, today was the RT of this forum in BKK and I was pissed off at having to miss it.
at the time I had only been a Member of this Forum for around 4 months, but had been looking forward to meeting other Members and today would have also included a trip to Edens.
but here I was sitting 400 miles away, and while I had a Beer in hand and sitting with a Girl I liked I felt annoyed about my misfortune about not being in BKK.

well I eventually left Sa and told her I would come back later.
had a nap and gpt ready for the night out.
visited my usual haunts and had a stroke of luck.
into Pink Panther and no Nok which was a surprise, but Bud was working and as I had mellowed from the previous day I told her I wanted to pay bar for her.
again she refused saying I was Nok's Boyfriend, even when I offered her 10, 000 Bt.

however my friend, the Mamasan overheard and took Bud to one side and spoke to her.
i think she basically told her she had to go with me, for Bud came back and agreed to come with me and was most humble and apologetic.

paid the 500 and off she went to change.
BUT, when she rejoined me, she told me she would stay the night, but no BJ or BOOM BOOM!!!!!!.
WTF I said, I pay bar, I f*ck you and still she refused, saying she was tired and just wanted to sleep and needless to say I was a little angry with her and I know I should have said something to the Mamasan, but I just told Bud to go, if she wouldn't f*ck me then she could just f*ck off and leave me alone.
she offered to give me the 500 back, but I just pushed her away and told her to go, which she did.
by now the Mamasan had noticed what had happened and asked what the problem was and I just said 'no problem'.
i didn't want to get Bud into trouble and explained that I had BF'd her so that she could go home.
she looked at me a bit strange, she knew I often BF'd Nok for this reason, but she also knew Bud was not normally like that.
Bud was mainly a S/T Girl and good at getting 2/3/4 men a night.
she knew there was a problem between us, but in the end didn't pursue the matter.

i left the Bar and went on my normal walkabout to my favourite bars and chatted to friends and a few Beers were sunk and I ended up with Sa at her Bar and I decided to take her home and paid the 200 and off we went.
this had been another strange day.
it had started well with good sex with Sa and spending time with her, but really disappointed with the Bud situation.
and where was Nok?, she hadn't been at work, had she been BF'D earlier?
OK for me to Butterfly, but I just hated the idea of her with another man, so stupid of me.




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Posted on: 8:17 pm on Nov. 30, 2003
fastmover
"OK for me to Butterfly, but I just hated the idea of her with another man, so stupid of me."

I do not think stupid, but perhaps typical of the training that we receive as men in Western culture.

Frowns for women being unfaithful or free sexually, and winks for men who are smooth with woman.

As men it is not often that we can accept the 'challange' of other men experiencing the charms of a woman we have some emotional or possessive bond with.

I do not think it is the lack of loyalty of the woman we fear, it is the power of other men who may supercede our place between the womans legs.

But to try to convert a woman who insists on experiencing other men for money or not, that is stupid.

Same as it is for a woman to expect to convert a man who seeks a multitude of partners.

But both men and women never give up trying.


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Posted on: 9:28 pm on Nov. 30, 2003
nokna
while I just about agree with your comments, the fact is she was a working Girl.
it was her 'job' to sell her body to men.

i could not and should not have expected her to stop going with men at times when I didn't want her.
it was just hard for me at the time at accept her going with other men.
but apart from this night I had no reason to think she was with anyone else.


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Posted on: 2:28 am on Dec. 1, 2003
fastmover
I understand, but when you use the word 'stupid' like you were making an uninformed decision (about any woman) I think you, and other men whip themselves for no reason.

And if you are sensitive about these things does that mean you are stupid? No.

I think you wrote the word 'stupid' to satisfy male readers that you were aware but became 'stupid' at that point which we can all excuse you for.

I think if you were writing for a female audience you would choose a different word (s) that show sensitivity.

Just guessing.........

ps. got your pics, will send same soon.


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Posted on: 3:18 am on Dec. 1, 2003
nokna
i know what you are saying, but any word I used wether it be stupid, silly or foolish might not have been the right one.

just trying to convey my thoughts about Nok and my thoughts about her with another man.
difficult to put it into the exact context, but I did feel stupid thinking of her with another Guy while I was f*cking other Girls.

i had no right to stop her or even think about her when I was with another Girl.
i have had a few regulars when I visited and apart from Nok I never had thoughts like this about any of the others.


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Posted on: 7:40 am on Dec. 1, 2003
fastmover
Ouch! Then love, affection, emotional bonding, does make a difference.
And do you think Nok was thinking of you with the other women, while she was working?


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Posted on: 7:56 am on Dec. 1, 2003
MickTheKick
Dear Nokna,

I just recently came into some kind of trouble close to what you are describing about your feelings for Nok for some time now. For me it was a totaly new and shocking experience. You might read thread
http://bkkx.com/cgi-bin/forum/topic.cgi?forum=26&topic=332&start=0
and follow ups, which I'm gonna write today... possibly my considerations can be inteesting for you.


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Posted on: 8:14 am on Dec. 1, 2003
nokna
FM.
i know what Nok was thinking about me when I was there on holiday.
we had chats about it and that is why I made a few rules.
i know I was stupid (that word again) to agree to a few, but I had a lot of feelings for her.
and in the past and in the future she would turn up at my room to see if I was with another Girl.

i had no problem with her f*cking other men while I was back in the UK because I didn't know when she was doing it, but hated the thought of her doing it while I was in town.

Mick has posted a good example to my and his troubles.

things between Nok and I got more complicated before my visit was over and a lot of sh*t happened.
but what does it matter now?, 17 months since I saw her last and at least I know she is not working anymore.


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Posted on: 9:02 am on Dec. 1, 2003
fastmover
There is logic and peace in your words, which may be all one can achieve when there is distance involved.


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Posted on: 10:08 am on Dec. 1, 2003
Addy 007
I understand how you were feeling nokna.

It's funny, it's what the girls do for a living, but yet the very thought of her going with another man causes so much grief...it shows our feelings are hurt, even though we are butterfly's ourselves...!!!

Or is it our feelings tend to run a little deeper than we realise, I know in your case they do, as in mine too.

More to be told in my up & coming FR's... I know nokna... don't say it...I know I have been saying this for a while now, but they are coming...i promise...


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Posted on: 4:14 am on Dec. 2, 2003
     

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