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Rogi
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Hey guys, I really need some questions answered from your past expirences. Sorry about spelling and grammer, Im still getting over my hangover/shock from last night. Didnt have a great very expirence after I saw that the condom busted after anal (i think i only used it for that...not 100% sure). This being the only 2nd time with a BG/TG I kinda freaked out a little. The bg saw my reaction and just wrew totally (which really freaked me). , but my friend says sh e was coming down from a high which didnt help Thats a quick summary, but the question is what are my odds from getting any STD from bbbj or having the rubber break Ýfrom anal(in phuket)? ÝI know im sounding really stupid b/c you cant get anything from anal (almost 100% sure she wasnt bleeding and neither was I) and that a bbbj is usually ok, but iv never had to worry about any of these issues but cant stop thinking about it. Please throw me some reassurance b/c i really want to enjoy the rest of my trip here. Im already kicking my myself in the ass for barfining her so keep the flames to a min. please. Ill make up for this post with some interesting story(s) from bkk that happened with my friend and I. Thanks for your help....time to go sleep off the hangover.
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 9:10 pm on Dec. 16, 2002
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MrJoe
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First thing is you need to calm down, sober up and chill out. What do you mean she "wrew" and you freaked out? I'm sure others will give you specific info on the statistical possiblity of female to male transmission via anal sex (Don't think it's going to be any different in Phuket  ) but the odds are pretty low. Certainly there is some cause for concern but as it's too late to do anything about it now I suggest you try to relax a bit. It might be a bit difficult but there's no logical reason to spoil your trip; what's done is done.
And I don't think you need to apologize for the post or "pay back" with stories; we're a pretty good bunch and I'm sure most are happy to help.
Keep cool.
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Bangkok Women : Meet Sensual Bangkok Women
Posted on: 9:19 pm on Dec. 16, 2002
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Rogi
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Hey thanks for the quick reply. Im still sitting here + starting to sweat. Im meant she "withdrew" - very quiet, didnt want to talk...left the rooms, etc....I kinda got worried because she stopped talking to me for a while until I apoligized a few time (maybe something to hide). Whats worse is she saw me drinking from the bottle and started chugging my rum, which we ended up taking and hiding. What exactly do you mean by "some concern". Im just trying to figure out the next step here. My bud and I were going to do a report anyways before this happened, we're just to hungover to do it now. Any info/expierences would be really appreciated. Thanks....
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 9:29 pm on Dec. 16, 2002
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Yurune
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I don't think she necessarily withdrew with something.....more likely when you reacted she felt unhappy that you think she may be unclean or whatever....withdrawal is a common reaction from Thai women when they don't understand something.
I would not worry if I was you......she was the one more at risk...and you can only get HIV if she has it first and you don't even know that....so chances are she doesn't have it....and you haven't caught it.......go sleep...chill out....if you feel the need to be tested wait 3 months....
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Sexy Bangkok Girls
Posted on: 9:45 pm on Dec. 16, 2002
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MrJoe
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Yurune has given you basically thre same response I would. The TG was almost certainly reacting to your reaction. You are clearly quite rattled and being drunk and freaking out would cause a lot of girls to withdraw or get scared. Not to mention that as Yurune said, your reaction might suggest to her that you think she's unclean; Thais still often have that attitude that only "dirty" people get/have AIDS. I think you are reading too much into it if you think she had something to hide; unless there's more to the story that you haven't told?
What do I mean about some concern: Well, theoretically you may have been exposed to some risk. If she is HIV POS (which you have no reason to believe) there is some possibility that you could contract it from her. How much possibility? There are varying beliefs on that but even the most pessimistic scientific data suggests that the possibility is slight in the case of female to male. It is greater for her, especially in anal sex, because in every single instance of anal sex there is tissue damage (microscopic) and therefore easier entry into the bloodstream -- but that would only really apply if you ejaculated or possibly if you deposited pre-seminal fluid into her anal cavity.
Again: RELAX. There's no other step you can take right now (A test will not show any recent contraction) and the odds are in your favor -- by far IMHO.
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 9:59 pm on Dec. 16, 2002
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seubeu
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Rogi, you need to learn the Thai phrase jai yen, which means literally cool heart, but more relax or chill out. ÝPanic is never a good reaction. Ý Try to put yourself in her shoes, she's with a drunk farang and you start to freak out. ÝYou can't move time backwards so you need to relax. ÝI know, easier said than done right now. ÝTake some deep breaths, drink a lot of cool water (for the hangover), maybe eat some aspirins.
Here's some fairly decent data, as far as that goes with HIV infection...
Actually, the risk increases more with whom you have sex with, and what kind of sex, than with the type of condom usage. ÝHere's a chart:
Sex with Heterosexual Partner
Negative HIV Test Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý1
Unknown HIV Status Ý Ý47
HIV Positive Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý4706
Sex with (male) Homosexual Partner
Negative HIV Test Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý 1
Unknown Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý 43
HIV Positive Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý430
Sex Act
Insertive Fellatio Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý1
Receptive Fellatio Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý 2
Insertive Vaginal Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý10
Receptive Vaginal Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý 20
Insertive Anal Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý 13
Receptive Anal Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý100
Condom Use
Yes Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý1
No Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý 2
Source: Centers for Disease Control study "Reducing the Risk of Sexual HIV Transmission," Varghese et al, Sexually Transmitted Diseases, January 2002
How to use this chart:
Take the items from the different columns and multiply times each that applies, this gives the amount of risk versus your baseline group, eg, other heterosexual males. ÝThis is why the numbers for homosexual acts are lower, since they are already defined as a higher risk.
I've pulled this forward from a post I made in a (much) earlier thread in Misc, etc.
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Bangkok Women : Meet Beautiful Thai Girls
Posted on: 10:25 pm on Dec. 16, 2002
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seubeu
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On further review, I should add some data here:
The stats I posted are for a general US population. Sex workers would have some increased risk, but not sure exactly how much. Net, are you at increased risk for HIV infection? Of course, but many take that risk everyday by sleeping with sex workers. How much of an increased risk is subject to debate. Is it much of an increase? As others have stated here, not as much for you as her, but to some extent yes. Will freaking out help? Not much, unless you enjoy freaking out. Condoms are good but not 100% foolproof. You should use a lot of non-petroleum based lubricant, particularly for anal sex.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 10:35 pm on Dec. 16, 2002
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Yurune
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Thanks MrJoe...far more eloquent than my response....I was in a hurry to leave...but wanted to give the guy a response as I kinda know how he was feeling....
Been in a similar situation myself....(though without the 'freaking out)......I certainly think I was more at risk in my situation than Rogi...and I'm clear...(was some time ago and involved blood (period starting and broken condom - though I read somewhere much later...possibly here that blood from the menstural cycle cannot infect...any truth anyone?...)
Rogi...chill out.....I think you are safe as houses myself and have little need for panic......maybe a little less intoxication on your behalf would help....
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Thai Girls : Meet Active Thai Girls
Posted on: 10:37 pm on Dec. 16, 2002
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<<period starting and broken condom - though I read somewhere much later...possibly here that blood from the menstural cycle cannot infect...any truth anyone?...>>
Yurune... I don't think so... I think menstrual blood from an infected woman is just as dangerous.
Rogi, I have nothing to add, except to agree with the "calm down" sentiments. Possibly go talk it over with a doctor and get some hard facts/statistics "from the horses mouth"?? That may put your mind at rest.
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 4:14 am on Dec. 17, 2002
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Rogi
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hey guys....thanks for all the posts. Im feeling a lot better today.....just spent the day relaxing at the beach....lots of laughing as we "tried" to recall what had happened....and you guys are probably right...I just over reacted. It was just something I had not thought about and really wasnt expecting it. I guess BG's arent for everybody, but they are damn sweet and cute. The emotional attention is great.
Next question: whats the shortest I have to wait for a HIV/AIDS test? What about other STD tests? How long do I have to wait? (not that i got much choice since i wont be going home till after new yrs).
also, any truth to hearing that if a BG has any STD that she gets fired? I figure this might be more true for bkk than phuket.
Thanks for all the info.......hope this bad dream ends well. Laters....
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 4:43 am on Dec. 17, 2002
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