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el frances
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hello
Can we rely on hotel/appartment reception/security to check girl's age and ID ? And if the girl happen to be underaged (fake ID), assume we can prove it's not our fault because we asked the hotel reception to check it ?
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 12:50 am on July 3, 2003
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AlterEgo
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Seems to me that the hotel has nothing or little to lose, and you have lots to lose. Best advice I saw on this forum; (paraphrasing) If the girl looks less than 25, (Thai age), then better make sure about the age.
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Posted on: 1:06 am on July 3, 2003
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Vancouver Jay
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First thing, learn to read a Thai ID card yourself. There are two sets of dates, the one on left is the birthday the one on the right is the expiration date.
Both are given in the format of DD-MM-YYYY, day month year.
The day and year are written with Arabic numerals like we use in farangland, the month is an abbreviation just two characters in Thai. Learning them is not critical but you might want to try.
The current Thai year is 2546. It rolls over on New Years Day and is always 543 years ahead. This means if you see 2527 or earlier the girl is at least 18 or maybe 19, if it's 2529 or later she's jailbait, if it's 2528 you'll need to know the months to figure it out.
There is really no liability to the hotel at all if she's underage. They may even check her ID and if she's underage call the cops and cop some reward money. Doesn't happen often but some ST hotels are known to play along with this sort of sting.
Even if her ID is legit (not fake) it may not actually be her. The photos are shit and ID-swapping is pretty easy and common. And some of the fakes are pretty good too.
Lots of underage girls have 2 IDs. A fake to make her "legal" for punters and clubs and her real one for the cops. Nothing much happens to her for getting caught with a fake one. Small fine and that's about it. All the trouble comes down on the farang as is to be expected.
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Posted on: 1:24 am on July 3, 2003
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BKK Blues
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I forgot all about the age thing. Yeah, would be a nightmare to have the police discover you with an under-aged girl. I guess if that happened you could kiss your arse goodbye. Thanks for the reminder, I'll have to remember to think about the girls age more. Usually the issue doesn't even come into factor, because you can tell the girl is over 18. But now that I think about it, there was this one girl...came out of Voodoo at Nana plaza, nah couldn't be...
What I wanted to mention in regards to this post was 'using the hotel workers for help.' I got friendly with the workers at my hotel and told them to let me know if I came back with a 'ladyboy' or katoey. So before I went up to the room, I gave the receptionist and security the 'eye' before going up. They'd always smile as if to say 'good to go!'
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Posted on: 1:47 am on July 3, 2003
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MrJoe
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BKK Blue: I wouldn't rely on that too much.
1) The hotel staff might not know.
2) They might think "What he doesn't know won't hurt him (or they might not give a damn.)
3) Are you aware of Katoey's often react when they find out someone has revealed the truth and caused them to lose a customer? I am and the hotel staff might be too. It isn't pleasant.
4) They might be smiling at the fact that you are going with yet another Katoey!
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Posted on: 12:36 am on July 4, 2003
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Arcadius
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Cruel, cruel MrJ, stripping BKKB of his false sense of security. Now he won't be able to sleep at nights, wondering if the hotel staff betrayed his sacred trust and he is besmirched for ever.
Moral: Do your own checking. So long as YOU are convinced that she/it/whatever is a girl, it really doesn't matter if you're dead wrong.
Actually, 'twas brought home to me recently how easy it is for katoeys to pass when you're not looking for them. There's been a 'girl' in the office for weeks - taller than the rest, not very attractive & hence not very much noticed. None of the farang guys here suspected a thing and the Thais (who must have known) kept it to themselves.
Then t'other evening, I was watching her sashaying back to her desk from the ladies' loo & thought it curious that she was walking just like a katoey. Mentioned this to one of the other guys, and suddenly a blinding revelation - OF COURSE she's a katoey. Such an obvious-looking katoey, that in a bar the most useless katoey-spotter couldn't misfile her for a second. We all missed it for nearly 2 months.
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Posted on: 1:47 am on July 4, 2003
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pinga
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Quote: from el frances on 12:50 pm on July 3, 2003
Can we rely on hotel/appartment reception/security to check girl's age and ID ?
PINGA: IMHO it depends on the hotel you stay at.
For instance, seems to be that few underage GG-girls from PATPONG encourage the customers to go to that ST Hotel (forgot the name) located in one of the alleys connecting Patpong 1 and 2 (2nd Fl) and almost opposite to FOODLAND. Got a bad experience there and did a post somewhere....
The point is that the staff at THIS particular ST Hotel didn't say a word on the girls age and was clear that it is/was highly recommended by the mamasans....private agreement? Dunno. Many other hotels may work under "private agreements and recommendations" as well.
Witnessed the staff at Playboy, Penthouse Hotel and Asoke Place on many ocassions being careLESS on ID issues. Same thing with several others.
Warning No. 1
Be careful when you take suspiciously young freelancers since few of them may have partner(s) which are usually cops and they work together to set-up farangs. However, it seems to be that beer-bar and GG-bar underage girls "know" places that won't make "any problem". Sad.
Warning No.2
Got knowledge that few receptionist at several hotels are being told to "inform" the cops when a farang has taken an underage girl into the hotel. The police will give them some discrete "reward" after they finish with the poor farang....
And if the girl happen to be underaged (fake ID), assume we can prove it's not our fault because we asked the hotel reception to check it ?
PINGA: Not at all. If the police happens to conduct a raid you are literally f_cked up!!
Do yourself and this country a favor and just stay away of the young girls. Zillions of petite and pretty babes in their early 20s are waiting for you somewhere.
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Posted on: 4:51 am on July 4, 2003
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cmore
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Very well said brother Pinga. Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý
BTW- You can always ask the lady to leave her ID at the front desk and ask them to call you in the room to make sure everythings alright before they return it to her. Doesn't solve the age thing but a little extra security for yourself couldn't hurt. Peace
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Posted on: 9:09 pm on July 4, 2003
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Diddler
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Vancouver,
When you say that the year rolls over on "new years day", I am assuming that you mean the Thai new Year (Songkran) in April, and not our new years day of 01 January.
Regards
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 9:47 pm on July 4, 2003
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