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madfrog
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I dont know why I bother typing this as you guy never listen and know the answer allready
There is no way in hell a 18 years old Thai girl will remain faithfull to a near 40 years old farang who is in Thailand only a few weeks a year.
At best she will find a Thai boyfriend and they will both live an easy life on your money (the money you dont have), at worst she will carry on working and "forget" to tell you
Either way you are f***ed, and deserve it for asking the impossible out of this girls.
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 9:09 pm on Nov. 1, 2011
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traveller7777
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@Everyone: wow, thanks for so much info and advice. i'm going to re-read your advice and think about this. In the meanwhile, I'll answer some of the questions. If anyone have more advice (after my additional info), I would appreciate it very much.
@ThaiLife: yes, I do want to marry her.
i'm researching the options to get her into my country (Canada) now. so far, i'd seen a lot of info on US immigration, but haven't seen much on Canadian immigration. I want (not sure if it can be done) to get her a tourist visa for the summer to Canada (but it still means she will be in Bkk for a few months alone (thats why I asked about "trustworthiness of massage girls").
immigration (and therefore marriage) is going to take longer (at least 2 years).
@Kaymaxxx: I only have 3 weeks of vacation a year, so I can only come couple times per year.
in my own country, i'd never been intimate with anyone, except with gfs (whom i'd always been faithful to). in my own country, i'd never even been to a "strip bar". my friends would be shocked if they knew i'd been to a massage/prostitute. I accidentally went to a "fishbowl" the first time 2 years ago when I was wandering around Bkk (we were here to look at tourist sites). at the time, I did not even know Bkk was famous for bars/massage.
@China Sailor: yes, her Mama knows someone is interested in her daughter. I said "hi" to her on the phone a couple of times, when we were in our 1 week Pattaya trip in early Oct.
She is the oldest, supporting 2 siblings. Farmgirl from Chiang Mai (all her background info was what she told me (i read some forums that say, never trust anything that a bargirl says?!) ).
@Joker7: normally I only travel out of my country 2 times per year (because only 3 weeks vacation and limited funds), but I'm using some special non-work days to visit her.
yes, i'm serious about her... I won't run off if she wants marriage or child... that is what I want from her too.
i'm planning to see her in early Jan to see her and discuss.
@Everyone: that does remind me, I had a couple more questions.
how much is a "typical" sponsorship per month? esp. for a massage girl.
how much is typical "som sok" (not sure if I spelled it right, I mean the marriage dowry thing) for Chiang Mai farm girl?
@Cheapcharlie: I do want to marry her quick, tho, I am very worried about the risks (thats why I asked if massage girls are similar to bargirls (forums I read seem to be about bargirls (very few say massage girls).
she is fun and sweet. I do not want the "industry" to change her into someone else.
and of course, it is killing me everyday thinking about her providing service to customers.
so, I do want a quick marriage (unless something is suspicious (she has a secret Thai bf, etc) ).
@Everyone: thanks for your wonderful advice. Given the additional info, I would appreciate any advice.
Or if there is more info (about her) I should check out or anything suspicious I should be wary of, please advise. Thanks so much.
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Bangkok Women : Meet Sensual Bangkok Women
Posted on: 9:32 pm on Nov. 1, 2011
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bkkz
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A friend of my friend, fell madly in love with a massage parlor girl after one visit. Well, he was with her a few days during that trip. He later offered to sponsor her, I think he gave her something like 200,000 B a month. After a few months, he flew her back to his country. They now have a kid.
I've known a few P4P girls who have gotten married, and some have been successful, some not. The odds are pretty much the same with a regular girl. Just make sure she is not just in it for money and you are not just in it for the sex. 
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 9:51 pm on Nov. 1, 2011
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dirty guru
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Ok here is your problem-
One - having read your response - you seem serious-
The thread wasnt about if..but when
Will she leave bangkok ?
Do you need torment
worries and concerns about if she is at the farm-?
But ok suppose she does go?
The reasons of money will in themselves cause your resources to dwindle-
How much will she ask for?
But ok lets be constructive-
Here is what I would attempt-
Must leave bangkok to secure 40<000 baht a month....Thats generous
In Return she must be initially available 24/7 for a call-
Delete all her emails addresses (that might shock you) witness it-
And never fore warn its going to happen-
Even then she will just call-
Slip back to Bangkok to meet some-
But lets say she doesnt-
How long will she be happy north?
Do a holiday visa man-
Least enjoy it!
I married a few times - currently
I have a Country girl
I wish she was 18 and pretty - I envy dudes that get it right and have hot pussy too
But she isnt - (hot) she is a middle aged hag ugly and stern - never offers affection or says she loves me-....not in words at least
But has nursed me through illness and shown in action she is fiercely loyal-
She cooks good - doesnt suck cock - beats me - and is religious and has a low IQ
She does one thing none have before-
Tell the truth and stay on Farm-
As I age I realise how good those qualities are-
Hundreds of woman later ( truth was my most important thing)
Your just beginning
Go have this adventure -
But dont ignore the advice-
Odds are you will get burnt-
Still it might take years -
Months -
You might end up happy
Just be realistical is our message-
One sore point is you initially point out yourself its a risk and dont want to get burnt-
But now seem ok with ignoring advice?
Most here advice you will get burnt-
I cautioned it but said a swift exit and support was only hope-
Think about it- ?
Maybe let me investigate her?
If I lured her into emailing me behind your back and porno movies - wouldnt that help you forget -?
Especially if she took your proposal and money?
But you lay awake already tormented-
Let me show you if she is playing you?
Well, the agony has begun areadly- You look at time zones and know she is licking someones balls - having warm cum shot in her mouth-
Why suffer?
Your vunerable-
Does she think of you when a big man rams his cock between her legs?
Its just a matter of time before "older girls" take over her PR with you and you get a hundred reasons-
She will say she hates it all wants to break free!!
"if you love me send 100,000 and I go home"
Your in the steamy world of south east Asian sex industry-
While she might want to escape - she might want to fleece you also-?
Be preapred for both outcomes
Do you sit down for one second and realise how many men "emotionally special" pledge their support and dying love a month?
Maybe one or two or 3 (who knows)
But your not the only one
-Life can be cruel and unkind as it can be special and magical-
Test the water -
I am ready to record her on a device - maybe even get her to email me and play your role-
If she agrees to me also your on a sinking ship - and should move on
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Sexy Bangkok Girls
Posted on: 10:03 pm on Nov. 1, 2011
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vox
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You know, all of this reminds me of something. Lately I've been getting e-mails from a former Nigerian prince who's fallen on hard times but still has control over a considerable portion of the royal fortune. I can have a share of this fortune, all I have to do is put up a small "good faith" amount of cash, just a few thousand.
On the other hand, I've also gotten e-mails from the Department of the States of the US, actually from Mrs. Hillary Clinton, who in close consultation with the Nigerian government seeks my help in administering a large amount of cash recently put under their control from various Nigerian agents working closely with the Americans.
So my question is, is one of these Nigerians more trustworthy than the other? Is there something that goes into the background of a Nigerian prince which makes him inherently more trustworthy than a Nigerian government functionary affiliated with the US Department of the States?
Haha, any cum-sucking asshole who trusts ANY Thai girl farther than he can throw her deserves exactly what he gets. Grow up and get a f***ing grip on reality.
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Bangkok Women : Meet Beautiful Thai Girls
Posted on: 10:43 pm on Nov. 1, 2011
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Baskoy
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My advice would be to walk away. She is 18 which in western terms equates to about 12 mentally. If you were in BKK permanently,maybe(and thats a big maybe) it might have a chance of working but you are not so give it up now before you start having to spend long dark nights back at home wondering what she is up to.
Keep your money and your sanity.
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 1:20 am on Nov. 2, 2011
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Kaymanx
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Traveller7777
Do remember the questions I raised are from your gf's point of view. Given the huge chasm between you two (such as age, education, intellect, articulation, geography, culture, outlook, even goals) you would do well to warn yourself that lot more things are destined to remain unspoken between you two than spoken. There are many, many facets of relationship that, for example, you will be able to grasp better with a partner who is closer to you in those abovementioned departments than a Thai girl whose only attraction -- pardon me for saying it seems so to me -- is her virginal freshness and charming innocence.
We've all been there, and we've all got screwed up. She does not look at life and relationships the way you do. And if you have read BTF threads substantively you will see that scores of bros have learned the hard way that logic works quite differently here. Can you bring yourself to like things that you hate merely because in her culture it is to be liked ? Aspects of relationship that are very close to your heart may mean nothing to her.
Now, believe you me, even as I am typing this I have just received a missed call from a TG I used to know and haven't met in 2 years. She was no bar girl, no massage girl. She was a hotel staffer. And I know she wants me to send money because of the devastation caused by the floods. She told me so when I called her last week out of concern. This is the first time she has called me -- because she needs money.
As a poster here said, money is no way to buy love. But, yes, it buys illusions.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 2:33 am on Nov. 2, 2011
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