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Arcadius
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K & A
Well, I'm all for empathy. And even sympathy if the particular circumstances demand it - like some of the women whose awful history A has related elsewhere.
All I'm saying, really, is that it depends on the individual case. I don't see why I should have any particular sympathy for Ms S of Barons, for example. I've no doubt that she earns a damn sight more than I do, and could give up the game very easily if she wanted, retiring somewhere to a position of relatively wealthy respectability. Instead, she finds it more advantageous to go on taking it up the jacksie all day. I don't disapprove of that choice, which is entirely hers to make, but I don't see why I should waste compassion on someone who doesn't need it and very probably doesn't want it.
Obviously, Ms S falls at one extreme. I think BGs in the farang scene who have absolutely no option fall at the other. Most no doubt feel that they're taking the best choice available to them and take the rough with the smooth.
OK, so they're despised by their society - this is not an attitude I have any patience with, but I recognise it as a fact. This is one of the particular crosses they have to bear, and no doubt some of them find it a heavier burden than others. But we shouldn't forget that there are many other girls, not on the game, who have different crosses to bear - like long hours of very tedious work and not nearly enough money. Some of these commit (or attempt) suicide too.
Life is hard and shit happens - cliches which are no less true for being cliches. In general, I like the BGs, don't look down on them and regard a few as my friends. Some of these girls have had very bad experiences and some bitter disappointments, but they're not beaten yet and are still struggling as best they can to make better lives for themselves and their kids. I'm happy to respect them for this, but I'm not going to 'pity' them because that would be patronising and I think they deserve to be taken more seriously.
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 7:44 am on Aug. 18, 2003
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Minder
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The original question was "whats with the wrist scars?" and advice to avoid women who have them. Others have covered the "what and the why" very well.
For the record I avoid wrist scarred BGs to. Heavily into the tatts is a warning sign also. Evidence of heavy smoking another black mark. Then if straight mekong is her lady drink and I'm out the door faster than a balloon dart from a blow pipe.
I figure anyone into that sort of self-mutilation is just not worth the risk - sorry but its my holiday, my decision and my baht so I set my rules. Sure I'm probably missing somethings but dream GFE does not involve spending time with the Thai equivalent of a "biker chick".
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Bangkok Women : Meet Sensual Bangkok Women
Posted on: 9:24 am on Aug. 18, 2003
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nokna
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'Sure I'm probably missing somethings but dream GFE does not involve spending time with the Thai equivalent of a "biker chick"'
we all have our rules when it comes to the girls and i respect that,but you can easily miss out on some of the best times by avoiding the types girls you mention.
so i presume you would not want to meet me for a beer as i drink,smoke and have many tattoos?.
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 10:12 am on Aug. 18, 2003
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depdocdog
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Also, what some of the replies have not touched on is the topic of Borderline Personality... these are people ( often women), who quickly develop attachments to people ( including new boyfriend), and due to their emotional instability, when faced with the possibility of losing this new attachment, will self mutilate themselves. Some do it to relieve the emotional pain, others use it in a manipulative fashion to try to prevent the other partner from leaving. These women also like to "test" their partners and can through tantrums over the littlest issues.. unless you're a psychotherapist, avoid these women like the plague.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Sexy Bangkok Girls
Posted on: 10:36 am on Aug. 18, 2003
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haam sup
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"But let's just keep our eyes open to the fact that many of the girls are in -- or have come through --- desparate
circumstances, unlike anything a man would experience. "
This is the height of presumption, and patronising to the max. How many poor Thai men do you know, Kaymanx? Did they all arrive in limos?
Your guilt at having sex with these women is YOUR problem, not theirs. You assume that they are pariahs in their society, when, in fact, YOU are attempting to apply YOUR own cultural norms to them. Feel guilty about THAT. Better take a look at your OWN issues...
White man's burden aside, as Arcadius points out, Thai's maintain composure right up to the breaking point, and then watch out! The wrist scars are most certainly NOT a method of administering drugs. They are not the typical 'cry for help', either, as that would NEVER occur to a Thai. They are an expression of grief and anger, and self-pity, and in a way, a face-saving mechanism. Wronged by someone, a girl can show how much SHE really cared, and how deeply she is hurt by having those cuts to display, regardless of the real circumstances of her relationship. Of course it's not calculated, or planned - it's just a response, with the above consequences.
Where Kaymanx and I agree, is that we need to be kind to these girls. I feel for them as human beings, and truly HATE to see callous and unthinking guys play emotional games with them. It's too easy to forget that they have hearts, and can form attachments, enfatuations, and feel love for us. There is NO need to hurt them in any way (let alone physical). If they don't please you, walk away. If they do, remember that you have limits on what you can promise. Be honest.
On the other hand, I REFUSE to entertain any gender, race, or social guilt. Life's too short.
haam sup
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 10:41 am on Aug. 18, 2003
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Deleted Member
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I am again pleasantly surprised at the thoughts posted by Arcadius and Haam Sup. Very intelligent and to the point.
Thanks again, and I really wish some day I could meet you guys, not for being funny or anything, but for being intelligent. Cheers.
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Bangkok Women : Meet Beautiful Thai Girls
Posted on: 2:16 pm on Aug. 18, 2003
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haam sup
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ComicNihilist,
If for no other reason than your name, I'd be pleased to buy you a beer, next time we're in town together, providing some deranged board member doesn't assassinate me first...
We take our persona seriously in these here parts...
hs
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 4:12 pm on Aug. 18, 2003
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Vikingblood
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"whats with the wrist scars?"
That is from bargirls that have had a LT with Dirty Guru.
Then there is no return to normal life 
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Thai Girls : Meet Active Thai Girls
Posted on: 4:57 pm on Aug. 18, 2003
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Sir Rimalot
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I had a TG on my birthday this year.. she had a scar on her arm... she said she dit it cause she was angry at a previous b/f..... when I barfined her one of my TG friends from the same bar (never had em) said for me to be careful with this one...
well that's my two setang
rock on
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 5:21 pm on Aug. 18, 2003
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Thai Traveler
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Quote: from haam sup on 7:41 pm on Aug. 18, 2003
...Snip..
Where Kaymanx and I agree, is that we need to be kind to these girls. I feel for them as human beings, and truly HATE to see callous and unthinking guys play emotional games with them. It's too easy to forget that they have hearts, and can form attachments, enfatuations, and feel love for us. There is NO need to hurt them in any way (let alone physical). If they don't please you, walk away. If they do, remember that you have limits on what you can promise. Be honest.
I'm probably a little off the original topic, but I did want to reply to Haam Sup's comment.
I totally agree with you HS. In the course of my travels, I have met a very nice BG, which I think of as a good friend. I make it a point of not lying to her (and as a rule in general). If I say Iwill come back and see her, I do and if I know I won't be back for a while, I also tell her the truth, no point in raising false hopes with her.
Over time I think I have proven to her that I don't lie to her and it does show in how she treats me in return. TG's have a very big heart and if treated right, you get to see that.
I have no time at all for people that promise them the world (to get a short term advantage) and then do a runner.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 6:07 pm on Aug. 18, 2003
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