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Jimmy--> Do girls at the Eden fake it? Have I ever tried them?
My personal opinion, with all due respect to Marc is yes, and yes. They know what they are about, but like most prostitutes the world over, will fake bisexuality because it still means money.
They're good at what they do, but no, it isn't real... When two women genuienly want to be together, it's all soft touches and gentle rubbing. There's a lot of mumuring going on, and you can tell that they truely care about one another. At the Eden, it was raw sex. There was no form of appreciation for the love of a woman's body. Most bi girls and lesbians feel that a woman's body is a work of art, no matter her shape or size, and it should be treated as such. Women are inherently tender with one another, and this is something that no straight woman can fake, as she's got no basis to understand the loving relationship that springs from the caring of two women. Much of what goes on at the Eden is designed to get a guy off, ASAP, and fulfill his fantasies. Sorry to break the news guys, but the love between two women is *nothing* like what the movies and brothels make it seem. If you want to see a faily accurate (but by no means unsensationalized) depiciotn of two women, go rent to mevie "Bound." It's got Gina Gershon (spelling?) and Jennifer Tilly in it. 9 out of 10 lesbians agree, the fingering/trust scene is out of this world!
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 2:50 am on Sep. 19, 2002
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MrJoe
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NGW,
I'm sure you're right about you experiences at Eden (you would know after all) but are you saying that any sex genuine between women always takes the same form?
It is my understanding from lesbian freinds in US (and it seems only logical) that there are as many variations of homosexual activity and preferences as there are in hetero sex. (One lesbian freind and I discussed BDSM and she was way more hardcore than I ever want to be.)
"Much of what goes on at the Eden is designed to get a guy off."
But of course! (said with French accent); that's the reason they exist.
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Bangkok Women : Meet Sensual Bangkok Women
Posted on: 3:04 am on Sep. 19, 2002
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Mykal--> You are right on. But remember, don't do everything when it's expected. And rarely should you ever give her store-bought flowers. This is a trick few men know, but it does rip and woman's beating heart out and lay it at a man's feet. Go and snatch some flowers from a garden. Give them to her in a slightly ragged bunch. All the better if you've got a spare piece of ribbon to tie around the bottom of them.
Don't buy her a box of chocolate. Too trite. Instead, buy her a candy of some sort in the shape of a teddy bear. Big lollypops (like the ones at Disneyland) and a real hit, too. If she's overweight, don't do the candy thing, it will just make her feel bad about herself. Instead, you should get her a small, fuzzy stuffed animal. Her favorite kind, that is. I love cats, so a stuffed cat would be great. Once you've known her a bit, a throw blanket/rug is good, or a shiny, satiny pillow. Not in the shape of a heart. Pick a more interesting shape, like a triangle, or something unexpected in a pillow. Rectangles, squares, hearts and cylinders are all common shapes. Avoid those.
DO NOT, I repeat, DO NOT buy her a living plant or animal unless you are inching towards popping the big question. Anything living means nuturing, and you know what nurturing means!!! Kids. Eugh!
You can even do something as cost-effective as a SMS (text) message in her cell phone. A quickly sent "thinking of you" message at an odd time of the day, preferably while she's at work, does wonders. It picks my spirits up when I'm surrounded by 20 screaming, non-English speaking children! Something like making pancakes one morning. And if you can manage to make one in the shape of a heart, so much the better. Write a little note to her and put it in her underwear drawer. Or in her suitcase when she has a business trip. Or encase one in a plastic bag and fold it up under her shampoo in the shower. It doesn't matter when she gets it. Eventually she'll find it, and have wonderful thoughts of you. Whatever you choose to do, don't do it incredibly often. Maybe a text message once a day or even every other day, a note once every ten days or so, and something bigger (flowers, candy, etc.) once every four to six weeks.
Body language....... If you're talking to a woman, touch her sometimes, as if to make a point. When she seems comfortable with this, you can lay your hand on hers. And un-aggressive, unspoken invitation. If she leans towards you, you're good. If she leans away, she's uncomfortable, but not quite rude enough to jerk away from you. You should withdraw your hand. You'll get nothing from her. If she stays still, not leaning, she's cool with you, but you've got to do some more convincing to get her interested. If she puts her hand on yours, so your hand is sandwiched between hers, you're in for a ride! She's going to use you, probably abuse you, and you'll love it. She's a very aggressive kind of girl if she does this. My favorite kind.
A good way to get a girl's attention is this: If she's standing across the room, and doesn't see you, stare at her. Humans can feel eyesight on them. She'll look in your direction. You should quickly look away, almost as if you were embarrassed to be caught staring at her. Then, you can look again at her until she looks your way. Look away again. Keep playing the eye game until she is either A) obviously avoiding you, or B) is smiling in your direction. If 'B' is true, go for it, and try the hands thing after you've been talking to her for 15 minutes.
Another thing to do is let her talk. Most women love to talk, so you should ask her questions about herself, and act very interested in her opinion on everything under the sun. It might be a bit boring for you, but later that night, she'll call her friends and say, "We were so *into* each other.
A warning. If she gives you her phone number, do not wait to call her. You should call her either that evening, if you met in the morning, or the next day if oyu met in the evening. Every day thereafter that you wait, she loses an interest point in you, and she probably doesn't have too many for you to begin with. These shows that have a girl sitting around, hovering over a telephone just aren't true. Modern girls aren't nearly so desperate.
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Posted on: 3:22 am on Sep. 19, 2002
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Mr. Joe--> Yes, there are variations on bi and les sex, but there's an undercurrent there that only another bi or les would understand. Often, much more hardcore action happens between two women that are in a long-standing relationship. Of course, as with every rule, there are exceptions! 
Alibaba-->Your story was absolutely wonderful! Where can I get a full-length copy of it?
If a woman doesn't give her all in sex, then she's not into it in the first place. Of course, if she is just a cold fish (I've had a few of those) then you should drop her like a bad habit and move on. Don't waste your time trying to open her up, it's too much work for the payoff.
A NOTE FOR ALL MEN-->
Most women like to be treated like women. We like to be thought of a sweet and feminine. We like doors opened for us, and food ordered for us. One of my greatest boyfriends used to chew me out for not letting him open the car door for me. It was the sweetest thing. Forget those N.O.W. b*tches. They're ruining everything for the rest of us who aren't feminists.
Women in general believe that they are equal but different. Not very many are vocalist feminazis!
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Sexy Bangkok Girls
Posted on: 3:30 am on Sep. 19, 2002
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MrJoe
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NGW,
Thanx for the reply.
As a matter of fact the freind I mentioned was in a long-standing relationship, so there you go.
I tend to agree with Mykal that these are things you know or don't. I doubt they can be taught because it's about a mentality rather than specific techniques, is it not? Nonetheless, it's nice of you to indulge the brothers with your female insight.
I read thru all your posts feeling smug ("I know all this stuff") when I was delighted by this bit;
"A good way to get a girl's attention is this:If she's standing across the room, and doesn't see you, stare at her... She'll look in your direction. İYou should quickly look away, almost as if you were embarrassed to be caught staring at her. İThen, you can look again at her until she looks your way..."etc.
This is what I used to do but at the same time felt it was pretty ridiculous. I am stoked to hear a female approving of this technique (if only I'd had the reassurance when I needed it-about 15 years ago!)
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 3:45 am on Sep. 19, 2002
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Jumping Jack
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Bloody hell
Sounds like hard work to me
Think I would prefer just to pay XXXX Baht (please fill in the blanks) and have a f_ck
Absolutly no disrespect intended TNG or TNGW
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Bangkok Women : Meet Beautiful Thai Girls
Posted on: 6:43 am on Sep. 19, 2002
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MrJoe
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Excellent commentary JJ! Perfect time to bring it all back down to reality.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 7:11 am on Sep. 19, 2002
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tng, thanks for educating some people on the forum here how women do really feel and can be tretaed. nothing turns me more off when i see some poorly educated men (not in mind but in manners with women) fingering and harrassing some wonderful girls. this applies all over the world and not only in thailand or the rest of asia.
many times i can really feel / see the pain of the women being attacked and not knowing how to politely get out of the situation or away from those jerks!
As Mr. Joe said I am surprised about the eyesight thing, I was always to shy playing this sort of game, as i thought it might seem to be to profane and stupid to get the attention of a woman. good to hear the opposite for the future I will be a bit more constantly using it. May many more wondeful girls come into my future life!!!
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Thai Girls : Meet Active Thai Girls
Posted on: 7:17 am on Sep. 19, 2002
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Very informative New Guy Wife. I learned even more! You and your SO must have a hell of a time!
Mykal
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 10:00 am on Sep. 19, 2002
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JIMMY D
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Evening all,
N.G.s wife,you sound like a fabulous women,thanks for the reply.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 10:37 am on Sep. 19, 2002
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