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No boys, the premise that these guys are playing by a fantasy rule book , is at best, deluded. I WOULD say (and i have a clear understanding acadius of the system)..that the conclusion most of these guys come to, is that their girl wants to (a) stop work...(b).get serious....(c)..develop things.........You showed a very good knowledge of the ropes, in your impressive post..But to dismiss a guy with equal understanding of "'how it really is"" as justifaction for no intervention is unfair.......These guys are not by large buying dreams, they have (as one guy pointed out) little age and/or understanding.....You or i , and i dare say 60% of brothers here play the illussion , know the score..... I just to back up the strength of your comments on sponship benifits...send $400. australian dollars a month. to two girls.... i am uneducated. but doing good in my field and i confer that this money , does play a nice game out, and ensure great sex.....I am entirely on your side in your accessment.....however, where we differ sport, is the assumption that these guys are willing participants....indeed were they, than no harm done eH?.....sure double think , comfort, all good points... even meddling in others business. Well let me tell the other side of it. I have been there done that, learnt etc.....hurt healed, started again , and again...even married one. But acadious, i once tipped off a guy that ate poorly, so he could send a girl his hard earned money......he was shattered... He mentioned the loose he felt. I admit your agrument is valid, i destoyed, (in his case) what was real.. the guy cried.....But a year later he married a plain jane girl from chang mai, and was mighty glad he got that tip...just a thought mate.
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 1:29 am on Oct. 13, 2003
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China Sailor
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All (esp HS),
It is with great embarrassment that I acknowledge a serious typo of an 'H' to a 'J'. It will probably happen again..
Arcadius,
In one way it seems that we agrue on the same lines. I would not notify her marks (boyfriends) as they probably would not want to know. However after logging her off I would tell my friends and aquaintances as DG suggests. I have their backs and believe that it is my obligation to let them know.
It the battles between the Punters (us) and the BG (them) we need to stick together as well as they do.
Cheers!
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Bangkok Women : Meet Sensual Bangkok Women
Posted on: 2:58 am on Oct. 13, 2003
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dirty guru
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correct.......i know also a mate of mine whose girl was working, but said nothing, they married and it worked out...so horses , for courses
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 3:00 am on Oct. 13, 2003
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Arcadius
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DG
Well, I think you contradict yourself a bit here. You say that you modestly sponsor 2 girls in the full knowledge of the system, and that 60% of the guys here also know what they're doing, and yet "most guys" get it all wrong. How do you know that? I think that in the case of people you don't know from Adam, you have no right to judge what they're doing, let alone meddle in their affairs. Or as The Machine put it: "You really have no idea what is going on between two adults in a relationship."
OK, there are exceptions. You describe a case where you DID know what the guy was thinking and you also knew he was hopelessly misguided. Presumably, this was some kind of friend of yours. If so, then that friendship gave you a certain licence to intrude that you just don't have with perfect strangers. Even then, you'd better be mighty careful you don't overstep the mark, because many friendships have been wrecked on smaller rocks.
Granted, there ARE plenty of guys out there busily stuffing it up, mostly due to naivete. You've been there, so have I - and I guess so have most people on this forum. Do you regret your mistakes? I certainly don't regret mine, painful though they often were (and occasionally still are), because they've taught me a lot of vital lessons. I think a lot of guys new to the Thai P4P scene are just going to have to travel the same road, and it's not going to kill them. Like us, they are grown men, not little boys, and they should be able to take life's little knocks in their stride.
At any event, what I find objectionable (not just here but on many threads) is the blithe assumption that sponsors are all half-wits and the BGs are all conniving bitches. OK, some fit these categories. But in many cases, both parties are engaged in a subtle and rather fragile game in which each is getting what they want from the other, and your interference may be wholly destructive.
I might add that there was a time when I also went through a phase of believing the BGs were a load of dangerous con-artists. Gradually, I came to understand that the BGs weren't the problem, it was me not knowing my arse from my elbow that was the problem. And the onus was on me, not them, to do something about it. As HS rightly says - it's their game, not yours, and if you know what's good for you, you'll learn to play it by their rules. God knows, the pay-off is worth it.
CS
No, I honestly don't believe it has to be a battle, and it's a long time since I gave up playing it that way (mainly because I got sick of losing!) No regrets about that at all, since I know I get far more out of the girls than I used to.
Basic problem is that yer average BG is a world expert in what makes a horny farang tick, while yer average farang has only the shadowiest idea of what makes a TG tick. Plus he's too horny and/or drunk to think straight (there's a lot to be said for those stupid little colas). Plus he's fighting on her turf, and it's probably the weirdest terrain he's ever encountered. Ý
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Sexy Bangkok Girls
Posted on: 4:24 am on Oct. 13, 2003
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The Machine
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I know the sponsorship deal has been done to death but i would like to add and i have stated this before that no BG over all the years i have been coming to Thailand has ever asked for sponsorship money.
Period.
I think that in most cases it is the guys who are putting the idea of the sponsorship and marriage on the table and then the girls react accordingly.
It is the guys who are looking for more than a customer type of arrangment.
Therefore i say that they have brought most of the trouble on themselves even if it was a subconcious thing.
I am not excusing the girl who takes advantage of the situation but BG's don't try it on with those that understand the illusion of the GFE and treat it as such.
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 4:39 am on Oct. 13, 2003
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Quote: from DrLove on 12:02 am on Oct. 13, 2003
FM, I know it was friendly advice.
You've probably never met Smegs and myself. Then you would have known that Smegma is an heavyweight and I am not ... (Well in physical terms that is).
Don't you know that revealing openly private info that a member has himself not revealed in the forum is reason enough for banishment from the forum? You are getting yourself into dangerous territory.
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Bangkok Women : Meet Beautiful Thai Girls
Posted on: 4:52 am on Oct. 13, 2003
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ringthebells
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so be aware...
if you cross a fat man on sukhumvit, it might be smegma.
you might vave bumped into him at nana, his always wearing those parrot colored suits, has a crew cut and a moustache. he is usually heavily drunk and does the crazy dance, bumping into most people on his way...
he claims that he is canadian.
but don't be fooled.
rtb.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 5:03 am on Oct. 13, 2003
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Arramsey
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Quote: from Smegma on 4:52 pm on Oct. 13, 2003
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-------------------------------------------------Don't you know that revealing openly private info that a member has himself not revealed in the forum is reason enough for banishment from the forum? You are getting yourself into dangerous territory.
Smegs , Very ironic that you should mention this on a Thread where some feel it is OK to invade a BGs privacy !!!!!!
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Thai Girls : Meet Active Thai Girls
Posted on: 5:05 am on Oct. 13, 2003
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Arcadius
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Machine
BG's don't try it on with those that understand the illusion of the GFE and treat it as such
In my experience, I would say this is absolutely and completely true.
I think if a BG judges that you know the ropes (an assessment she will make very quickly), she will know what you need from her and also be confident that you know what she needs from you. Things tend to run very smoothly from there.
And the beauty of it is that neither party really needs to spell out anything at all.
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 5:17 am on Oct. 13, 2003
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