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MrJoe
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BallsB,
Because I lke your style and you were sensitive to the fact that it's a sensitive topic, I'll answer your question;
By the time they were ready to process the visa, I was fed up and planning to return to Thailand. The damage had been done: they insulted, demoralized and emotionally abused the young lady and I am convinced that the difficulties and the seperation contributed to the failure of our relationship (Not to say that it wouldn't have failed anyway - but that's not what I pay my taxes for - some bureaucrat deciding who I should be in a relationship with).
I totally understand that screening must take place. I understand not wanting people who are going to commit crimes (prostitution) or become dependant on the government. In my case i had all the proof of a long term relationship and my stepfather (multi-millionaire I discovered to my surprise) had his lawyer draw up papers accepting financial responsibility.
It was a horrible experience all around.
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 4:39 am on Aug. 21, 2002
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zzzZ
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MrJoe...this is one reason why it is so hard for a farang to maintain a relationship with a TG! (you are just a convienant example, not raggin on you, man).
Fact of the matter is that if you have a hot TG, endless farangs will continually come out of the woodwork to hit up on her, even if she isn't working or hitting up on them. Someday there is bound to be someone richer and better looking to steal her away or at least make her cheat on you...
And being out with your girl doesn't stop other farang from assuming she's "just working" and hitting on her every time you go to the bathroom or even right in front of you. Now that shit pisses me off. These same guys would never in a million years do that at home... but somehow they feel in Thailand that they can behave differently.... Believe me, I've seen it enough.
Anyhow, right now I've found a nice lady, who's not a BG, and so far she's fending off any stray attempts by other farangs to steal her away. But how long will that last? Just one of the many complications in having a relationship with a TG, so newbies beware! There is a lot of wisdom on these threads...
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Bangkok Women : Meet Sensual Bangkok Women
Posted on: 8:34 am on Aug. 21, 2002
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Ballsburstin
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MrJ
Thanks for the reply. Sorry to hear the otucome, it is what I feared it would be (worse, actually). I don't want to submit my TG to the same disregard for human dignity that you endured. She is actually very shy. When I asked if she'd ever danced at a disco for fun, she said "no, I too shy!" Go figure. But this is the type of person who would be deeply wounded by a sanctimonious beauracrat giving her the 5th degree. Sad, because all she wants to do is visit the States with someone who holds a piece of her heart, and enjoy visiting some of places she can now only see on TV or in a book. I will proceed with caution.
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 12:24 pm on Aug. 21, 2002
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nokna
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for all of you who fall in love,you have my sympathies.
on my first visit i fell in love with a girl.
i was that infatuated i wanted to bring her home to england.
but the british immigration system is so difficult to breach,i gave up with my attempts.
but after 2 years the girl and i keep in touch and i will never forget her.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Sexy Bangkok Girls
Posted on: 1:14 pm on Aug. 21, 2002
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cmore
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And for all of you who fall in love, you have my deepest respect. Falling in love is not the easiest thing in the world to do. Meeting someone for the first time, spending time with them, getting to know them and them you, getting past the first few weeks of sweetness and light before you both feel comfortable enough to start being yourselves, learning about each others faults and flaws and how to cope with them, and finally, the moment of truth when you both admit your feelings and learn that the other one feels the same way. Falling in love can be a very beautiful and rewarding experience that takes a great amount of patience, time, respect, and commitment from both of you. Unfortunately all of that only exist in the real world. LOS is a world that only exist 1 to 4 weeks at a time, 2 or more times a year. LOS is a world of make believe and illusion, a world of slight of hand, and a world where you arrive with your heart and depart with it left behind in someone elses hands. So how can anyone possibly fall in love with someone that they have only known for a short amount of time, in a world of make believe and illusion. It isn't easy, but what in this world is. All fairy tale worlds have their dragons and trolls and wizards. They also have a handsome prince who rides in on his white horse in search of his princess. However LOS is a fairy tale world unlike any other. Instead of dragons they have elephants. Instead of wizards they have street vendors that are very good at making your money disappear. As for the handsome prince riding in on his white horse, I think most of us are a little more comfortable riding in on a Boeing 747. That just leaves the princesses. How hard is it to find a princess in the Land of Smiles? Just throw a rock and you'll hit one (Hopefully one that hasn't taken up Thai boxing). How can you be sure that your princess won't someday turn into the evil step sister? You can't be sure. All you can do is have a little faith and give her a little trust and turn to the next page. Is there a pot of gold at the end of this rainbow? If you're willing to put in some time and lots of hard work you just might end up with the greatest treasure you could ever imagine. Is all of this worth the trouble? I won't speak for prince Balls B and prince Z, but as for myself, even the court jester can find love in the land of make believe. So to all you newbie princes out there who are planning a visit to LOS just use your common sense, go to the main page of this excellent forum and visit the newbie questions section and read all the wisdom that the other princes have to offer you, and even though you should always err on the side of caution please keep your heart open to the possibilities. They are there, all you have to do is look for them. You may be reading this book for the first time, and you may only have made it as far as chapter 2, but if you're lucky you'll make it all the way to the end of the story and as we all know most fairy tales always end with And They Lived Happily Ever After. Peace
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 12:28 am on Aug. 22, 2002
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MrJoe
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cmore,
Good to hear from you bro. A fine post indeed. (Admit it tho', you're pissed at me aren't you? You thought I was a decent guy like you and now, with all this talk of scoring on other guys BGs and the like...)
zzzZ, I fear you have made some not entirely accurate assumptions (clearly you were reading between the lines but I think you misread a bit.) No harm done though because you made valid and accurate points for all to consider.
Just for the record;
1)Seperation can cause damage to a relationship in and of itself; there doesn't need to be infidelity - (absence, not "being there" fror the person, etc)
2)I was the asshole who was unfaithful.
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Bangkok Women : Meet Beautiful Thai Girls
Posted on: 12:54 am on Aug. 22, 2002
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MrJoe
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BallsB,
Thanx for the support bro'. It's stilla painful matter for me and it's been... wait for it...15 YEARS!
The TG in question, amazingly sounds similar to yours,; Rather delicate and shy (PAUSE FOR LAUGHTER FROMTHE CYNIC'S GALLERY) and not eqquped to deal with the shit she got. (Wait a minute...where were you in...)
Now here's the punch line; One of the reasons I was what we called a 3time volunteer (Army, Jump School, Ranger Bn.) was because I actually believed in the ideals on which America is founded. Yes, I know it's corny (and strange from a die hard Liberal) but I did it for my country (OK I had some selfish reasons as well but let's go with the drama), and I used to tell my TG about those ideals and how, though they were often not lived up to...Yadda Yadda.... I really believed my Embassy would do me right.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 1:04 am on Aug. 22, 2002
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Ballsburstin
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cmore: sorry to continue the lovefest, but a most eloquent op-ed indeed. I can add nothing.
MrJ: your advice is valuable to me at this point, thank you for sharing a painful memory; the terrible part is she does sound a lot like my TG. So I can understand your anger, even after all these years. Simply reading the visa form made me angry. I will try do the right thing and learn from your experience. Thai girls are really better off in Thailand, and if it means killing her spirit to visit the States, then the price is too high.
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Thai Girls : Meet Active Thai Girls
Posted on: 2:45 am on Aug. 22, 2002
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MrJoe
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BallsB,
with the help of a lawyer I got access to a complete(?) report on the screening interviews. The questions were asked and anwered in Thai, then translated to English.
To summarize just one example of the vileness contained;
Q; What if your boyfriend were black, would you still want to be with him in US?
A: I don't care, I ust want to be with him.
CONCLUSION: SUBJECT STATED SHE DIDN'T CARE WHO SHE MARRIED, SHE JUST WANTS TO GO TO US.
Now, am I saying that you should not take your girl to the US. No- it would be sad to give up the possibilty of her meeting your family,friends, and experiencing that amazing country. Do I agree that it's something to think about very hard? Need I answer?
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 3:02 am on Aug. 22, 2002
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Ballsburstin
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MrJ,
An ugly set of people indeed. I wonder if the more politically correct mood of our times would prevent them from getting away with that level of shit these days. I wonder if these ratfinks still work at the embassy. Wouldn't prevent them from stamping "undesirable" on her passport, but at least they would have to be more underground about it. Regardless of the spin, no one in D.C. really cares about what happens to this particular TG.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 3:32 am on Aug. 22, 2002
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