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ccvvbb
It is kind of funny when I am laying in bed watching CNN on TV and she asks me how to spell certain words, I can kind of figure out what she is sending to her "boyfriends" even before I read them.

I don't know if I have seen a faster growing thread in the last 8 months that I have been a member, it even seems to be staying on the original topic.
Tune-in, in the morning for Fridays up-date. Ý


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Posted on: 3:56 am on Feb. 6, 2003
Simon WS
I agree with Haam Sup. He is spot on.

"My EXACT point is/was that integrity PRECLUDES the 'sliding scale' of ethics.  Since you are playing in someone else's sandbox, you have no choice BUT to tolerate their level of ethics.  But integrity is DEFINED as acting according to your OWN ethics, not sinking to someone else's."

This can also be put as" She is a prostitute, it is her job to play with her clients, get them to love her and make money.  Read the Kamasutra 'ethics of a prostitute'. But YOU are a gentleman, will you stop acting like one?"

Isn't it your (and Werne's) folly to expect (in fact demand) honest love. Imagine Romeo going to a whorehouse in search of a Juliet. Yes, sometimes you can get it, but how can you take it at face value, after just six days.

Just yesterday an MP girl said, "I have no one to take care of me." I think it was true and it is sad too. These girls do lead a rather lonely life and exploited by their own family. In the big picture, even when you include johns like Werne, the odds of these girls finding happiness are heavily against them.

There are all kinds of losers and suckers in the world.
Will CCVVBB start a crusade to save them all? All the dopes who borrow money from loan-sharks or loose money in worthless shares? Sure, there's a whole world waiting to be saved, so why start with Werne?  With you out of the way, maybe he will meet her in September and even marry her. How do you care? I say good for her, let her get some happiness.


Bangkok Women : Meet Sensual Bangkok Women
Posted on: 4:59 am on Feb. 6, 2003
ccvvbb
She is on the phone with England man as I write this, being very careful not to say the wrong thing to tip me off that she is talking to a farang and careful what she is saying to him.

from thier conversation, lots whispering...
I am sick little bit...
I never talk with him...
I have you now...
I love you too... (whisper)
You very good heart...
She have good father (his daughter)
You good man...
I miss you...
Love you and miss you too...
Love you...
I love you too...
Bye!



I cannot wait to see the new e-mails tonight or in the morning... stay tuned for tomorrows installments


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Posted on: 5:31 am on Feb. 6, 2003
Yurune
ccvvbb...our man on the front lines......

You must report in every hour on the hour.....if he reads this thread today...he could call her and you could be in peril....so if their conversation changes to...

yes Canadian
Yes very handsum
he what
f_cking Canuck bastard
yes I know a guy
yes 50000....send me tomorrow
he's dead

CCVVBB COME HERE!!!!!

then you know you are in the shit!!!

But Hey....most reporters got back from Bosnia at it's worst times....the odds are in your favour


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Posted on: 6:12 am on Feb. 6, 2003
Chompoo
You don't seem to understand the differences between stealing, fraud and lying/deceit. ÝYou also confuse your arguments of morals and ethics with law.

You cannot explain how what this girl is doing is not fraud by both legal and any other definition you choose to make. You cannot explain how this is any different than a fake monk raising money for a charity that doesn't exist. You cannot even explain why there is such outrage over a bar trying to throw a few extra chits into a cup.

The fact that the girl works in an illegal profession does not give her the right to throw all rules out the window. That is absurd.


I, however, can explain why so many guys like you tolerate and even appreciate all this hypocrisy.

One reason, already stated, is because it justifies the way you treat the girls (like whores). Lying and cheating them to get what you want is acceptable because you know they would do the same to you.

The other reason is because they have a cute face and a pussy. Any guy pulling this crap; dishonest bar owners, scamming taxi drivers, meng daa are all reviled yet they have all the same excuses that you use to justify the behavior of BGs.


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Posted on: 12:32 pm on Feb. 6, 2003
Chompoo
My EXACT point is/was that integrity PRECLUDES the 'sliding scale' of ethics. ÝSince you are playing in someone else's sandbox, you have no choice BUT to tolerate their level of ethics. ÝBut integrity is DEFINED as acting according to your OWN ethics, not sinking to someone else's.

You always have the option of not playing, or starting your own game elsewhere. ÝIt would be interesting to see how many people show up.


Why do you keep arguing with me? Do you actually have a point to make that I haven't already addressed or do you just feel the need to respond to me because of your great distaste for me?

Not to mention that these two paragraphs are totally unrelated and somewhat contradictory.

On one hand you refer to what I claim others are doing, and somehow want to quibble with me over that when you are, in fact, just agreeing with me.

Then you tell me I should start my own game if I don't like the way some people play. As I've already pointed out, you don't have a problem with making your feelings known about how you want to change the behavior of others. Why don't you follow your own advice and shut the f_ck up? If I want to broadcast personal info of the BGs, why not silently let me do it? If I want to take advantage of a BG in a tough spot and haggle her down to nothing or make wild promises that I don't intend to keep, why don't you keep your own ethics and morals to yourself. If you weren't busy preaching your ethics to us on this forum you wouldn't have much else to say, then would you?

Take your own advice, hypocrite.


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Posted on: 12:41 pm on Feb. 6, 2003
Chompoo

You could be 100% right about everything....I'd never know....*yawn*
I am 100% right, but I never claimed I would try to make it interesting for everyone. Most proofs are tedious and boring. Lively and interesting conversation is great over a beer, but nothing ever gets resolved.

For anyone who cares to understand it, they will follow the threads carefully and see that. Everyone else can just skip over them and read the naughty bits.


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Posted on: 12:44 pm on Feb. 6, 2003
One Eyed Jack
My 2 cents worth.....

IMHO, what we're talking about.... what this forum is about.... is one great big LIE.   It's all about living out a fantasy..... That's the beauty of the whole thing.  You can live out any sort of pleasure without the worry that it enters your 'real' world.   I think this is why many of us love LOS.   The fantasy sometimes seems so real... but it is and always is a fantasy.   Just like some of the new virtual reality games out there.    Hard to tell from real.

Sure there are a few situations where the fantasy or the 'lie' enters one's real world.   IMO, that's the souce of the problem.   The basis and the beginning is a lie... or if you prefer, a 'fantasy'.   If one believes their fantasy has become 'real', it's a set up for disappointment.    Can go both ways... either you or she can cross the line from fantasy to real......always a disaster when only one makes the cross over.

In very rare cases, both can cross the line and it may be real.  But, IMHO, it still started out as a 'lie'.  

I know I know there are a few VERY rare cases where some have lived happily ever after after mutually crossing over.    More power to you and no offense.    

Of course this all could be thrown out the window with a debate on what is 'real' and what is 'fantasy'.    What the hell is 'real' anyway!!  


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Posted on: 1:08 pm on Feb. 6, 2003
haam sup
You always have the option of not playing, or starting your own game elsewhere. ÝIt would be interesting to see how many people show up.

OK, for the obtuse:

This paragraph means that as opposed to playing the BG in Thailand game, one always has the option of abstaining, or finding another place to attempt to get laid/find true love/muck around in a foreign culture you are incapable of comprehending/etc., or, failing those options, opening your OWN venue in which to play, impractical and metaphoric as that may be.

Only the incredibly vain would take it as a personal invitation to find another forum in which to TALK about it.

Get over yourself, Chompoo. ÝWhat do you have, 6 months under your belt in Thailand? ÝYou seem to set impossibly high standards for yourself. ÝIf you're worried about becoming an 'old hand', it might help to develop some skills which would enable you to survive long enough there to reach your goal. ÝConspicuously tossing around a 'meng daa' here, and a 'neuay bin(!)' there isn't going to get you the respect you seem to be so desperate for. ÝIf you spent half the time you spend picking fights actually studying Thai, you might gather a little credibility. ÝHell, another member learned the alphabet in 2 days. ÝIf you stayed away a week, you'd have Thai, Lao, Khmer, and a few Issan dialects knocked long before anybody missed you

Sorry, but the world just can't be made into a place that fits your peculiar set of specifications. ÝTry to learn to be flexible, and adapt, and take others as they come.

haam sup
you may, of course have the last (5000) words


Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 6:11 pm on Feb. 6, 2003
Chompoo
This paragraph means that as opposed to playing the BG in Thailand game, one always has the option of abstaining, or finding another place to attempt to get laid/find true love/muck around in a foreign culture you are incapable of comprehending/etc., or, failing those options, opening your OWN venue in which to play, impractical and metaphoric as that may be.

First, it is not "their" game. It is as much my game as any random bargirl. They do not unilaterally get to set the rules.

Only the incredibly vain would take it as a personal invitation to find another forum in which to TALK about it.

Second, you have completely missed or deliberately evaded the point again. I choose to play in "our" game, but that doesn't mean I can't talk honestly about it here. You are the one telling me to find another forum to TALK about it and that I should shut up.

Third, you have yet to clearly state exactly what you are arguing with me over. Are you saying that I shouldn't point out that the girl is unfairly cheating these guys? Are you saying that what she is doing is right and that you have no ethical problems with it? Can you answer the question I put to jj about why it's okay for the girl perpetrate this scam, but not for a taxi driver, fake monk, etc.? Can you tell me why you feel free to criticize the ethics and behavior of those of us on this board, but do not grant me the right to criticize a BG?

<completely random and incoherent rant removed>

Sorry, but the world just can't be made into a place that fits your peculiar set of specifications. ÝTry to learn to be flexible, and adapt, and take others as they come.

It's like talking to a brick wall with you. Why is it so horrible for me to point out on this forum that what the girl is doing is dishonest and to further ask that others shouldn't admire or respect her and certainly not help her continue with this fraud?

Why is it that it is so impossible for you to comprehend that this board is not real life? Do you really think I have this ethical discussion with bargirls? One of the main reasons I come to boards like this is to have serious conversations about complicated concepts and hopefully do so in an intelligent and dispassionate way. You are obviously neither intelligent or dispassionate and it makes having a discussion with you pointless.

Is there nothing you would change about the Thai prostitution scene? Nothing you wouldn't like to comment on? Oh wait, you already have commented on the things you don't like. Why play in the game then?

For once in your miserable life can you just answer the questions before you honestly? You really need to examine your own thoughts a little more carefully, as the hypocrisy is slowly going to eat away what little reason you have left.


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Posted on: 6:35 pm on Feb. 6, 2003
     

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