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Hugh Jardon
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AAAHHHH!!! It makes sense now. You met your future bride on an internet dating site. No, definitely not P4P!! You sound like an attorney. If so, I guess you will save a bundle on your legal when you get divorced. Keep popping Viagara and you MIGHT keep her interested.

This sentence contains the first thing you've got right and two further inaccuracies.
As you say, she is definitely not P4P. She is University educated and works in an Estate Agency. She is from a decent middle class family, still living mostly at home.

No, I am not a lawyer. My last marriage lasted 24 years and I intend that this one will see me out. As for the Viagra, I don't need that either. Sometimes I've taken half a pill on the last couple of days to increase performance, but that's after shagging 3 times or more a day for 3 weeks.

If I were you, I'd take Bangkok Chang's advice and quit whilst you're behind. It isn't much fun for me scoring points off a mental pygmy.

Getting back to topic on this thread:-
Stormer
I think that this question opens a can of worms. Essentially it is questioning your entire relationship with this girl. In essence, what it boils down to, is do you trust her? There has to be trust in a relationship, or it is nothing. If you accept the possibility that she might be caught red-handed with a punter, then it means that in your mind, you do not trust her entirely. She was previously in P4P, so I could understand if you did harbour doubts. As some of the other bros suggest, there is the possibility that she may think that you did not trust her and might lose face. You admit this yourself. On the other hand, if you also entertain the possibility that you might use the day of your early arrival by indulging yourself in the P4P scene with other girls, then you're no more trustworthy than her, are you?
Some guys argue that a little dalliance on the side is purely for fun and doesn't affect their love for their wives / girlfriends. If you suscribe to this train of thought, then you can't really be a hypocrite and deny her the same "fun", can you?
If you do decide to surprise her, why not just phone from the airport when you arrive and tell her you're here a day early.That can be the surprise. Just turning up on her doorstep is not such a good idea. I tend to suscribe to CG's reasoning when he said:-

If this is p4p, this is a blatant invasion of her privacy and trust (she trusted you enough to show you where she lived and let you into a part of her "real" life, and you show up there unannounced). If she is not p4p, it is probably something she really will not appreciate (regardless of what she says to you about it).




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Posted on: 2:32 am on May 22, 2005
expatchuck
OK, here's my personal experience on this matter.

I had a live-in several years ago that, when I went to work in the Middle East, lived in my home and helped take care of my daughter.

On one call home, my daughter whispered that my ex-tgf had moved a new Thai boyfriend into the house and they were living in sin (my words, not my daughters).

I decided to make a little jaunt home to take care of the situation. Took Gulf Air out of Bahrain to BKK and a limo directly to my residence, without of course notifying anybody I was coming.

I walked in the front door to find my ex-tgf feeding her new-found Thai BF as he sat on the floor in his underwear and no shirt. She arose with a rather shitty grin and my first question was...WTF is he doing here?

When it was determined he was not her long lost brother from another mother and father, I gave both of them 3 minutes to vacate the premises. She started to take a little longer so I helped her by throwing her clothes into the street and the 3 minute deadline was met.

By the way, when she rode off she was wery angry with me cause I had not told her I was coming, thereby making the entire situation my fault. Reasonable, huh?

They then rode off into the sunset.

Happy ending.


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Posted on: 6:16 am on May 23, 2005
babysnake
I talked to one BG about the onsept of surprise. Nothing personal directed at anybody, just telling a story.

The lady was telling me that a farang is coming to Thailand soon and wants to see her but when she asked when he was coming he didn't reveal it, only said 'soon'.

He wanted to surprise her and she had this dissapointed look on her face. I asked doesn't she like surprises. Her answer was; "Me no like surprise. How I know when he come, maybe I have customer."

Now, she clearly did not want to dissapoint this farang, she was willing to make arrangements to be available for him when he comes but naturally without the information she couldn't.

And what could she do, stop going with customers for several days, even over for a week, to be sure she would be free to him? I don't think so. We don't stay out of work either just in case if someone wanted to come to see as at our home while we were working


When I saw the title of this thread I thought it would be about surprising 'your' girl with a present of some sort. Now that would be appropriate =)

I think the thread is somewhere here in bkktonite.


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Posted on: 10:29 am on May 23, 2005
Minder
I told my GF early in the relationship that I might "surprise" her one day...just turn up...I wanted to see how she would react to that idea... I could read sinister motives into her response (I am pretty sure I did at the time) but in hindsight this response makes sense.....

She said she would feel cheated if I did that since she would not get to enjoy the period of anticipation, the waiting period where she knows that we will soon be together, counting down the days, making plans for what we will do and where we will go in the time available and her having time to make sure she would be as free of her commitments as she could be then.

P4P, good girl or undecided this "surprise" thing is a bad idea.


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Posted on: 6:43 am on May 24, 2005
Baquawn
I try to do everything possible to NOT let girls know my exact arrival. Like others have said. Best to get that recreational sex out of the way prior to dealing with already conquered girls.

Ask yourself if you would like some girl just dropping into YOUR life unannounced. I am sure you are no angel yourself, and would be pissed off also.


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Posted on: 12:16 pm on May 24, 2005
LiamOZ
Gents,
My current TG is P4P & a dancer in a bar, so as has been pointed out to me she is 'not my girl'. It's pretty obvious that there isn't much point in surprising a working girl.
I like to give her plenty of advance notice of my (official) tour dates, so she can clear her appointment book (so to speak) & set about organising my tour entertainment.
This way I get GFE in the extreme, lots of fun outings, dinners & of course bedroom gymnastics.
I wouldn't dream of turrning up unannounced & ruining that for myself. I also get the anticipation without disappointment.
I love the screaming with glee when I turn up at her bar that first night very late. This is either very well rehearsed, or completely spontaneous, and tells me I am once again in LOS & that the sanuk has begun.
Cheers,
Liam


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Posted on: 6:58 pm on May 24, 2005
dirty guru
DANGER!
The problem with your situation, is getting the extreme girlfriend experience entails as we all know at some point, a degree of deeper attachment.
Your bar girls screaming hoard are spontanous.
JACKPOT!
Try throwing a few ping pong balls (that the girls get 20 baht for in pepermints ago go or carasol in pattaya for same effect)
Its a financial yell of lucky bitch, here comes punter number 5 out of her "'love you lots book"
And before you say a word, I know what I am talking about.
I recently had a fight with a girl that was booked for a week solid at 4000 a day, when a punter she knew flew in unexpectedly.
Luckily her business sense kicked in and she turfed him.
You are one of many.
What you hear, many hear.
She might not even like you.
You pay her to do what you wish for.
But remember it isnt real.
I see girls just returned from bangkok airport, and they go straight to the next job, and sayS ""i hope the stupid farang sends me more"
Your wasting your time.
If she rings your bell, f*** her day arrivve and next day, maybe even last as well.
But your like a boy in an ice cream store that just eats vanilla.
Next you will be sending money, and hoping she stops f***ing.
Heartache all that shit.
pass.


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Posted on: 8:33 pm on May 24, 2005
LiamOZ
Thanks Dirty Guru......................I needed that.
Liam


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Posted on: 9:26 pm on May 24, 2005
dirty guru
On the other hand, anything is possible, just tread careful...........::


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Posted on: 9:54 pm on May 24, 2005
BigDUSA
When I wrote my first response I got hung up on the girl friend part of the post. I tend to assume all two week vacationers are dealing with P4P women. I could be wrong but the % are on my side.

Generally speaking I don't tell the BG when I'm going to return except I was seeing one BG for a few trips and she lives near Chaing Mai and I would tell her when I was coming so she could meet me in Pattaya.

I was seeing one BG and I would surprise her by walking into her bar unannounced and she was always happy to see me.

She's not my girl friend and I know I'm just a customer. If she was in the bar cool if not I would come back another night. I wasn't "checking" up on her as this was a business arrangement. Nothing more, nothing less.


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Posted on: 10:09 pm on May 24, 2005
     

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