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udonmonkey
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Quote: from seajohn on 10:41 am on May 13, 2006
Seajohn
my post was off the cuff and and more of a moan really so excuse me if I went of the handle a bit but its sad to see girls quoting 2000 or even 3000lt these days or agreeing lt when they only want to do st.
and as I said in my post 'i get away with 1000-1300lt' which is not far off the figures you quote. I should elaborate to say 'getting away with it' means no hassle from the girl.
if I was living in bkk I wouldnt be hitting nana/cowboy etc on a regular basis except to have a few drinks and watch the scenery. so theres no chance of me getting a cheap charlie tag there. I try to be cheap with bg's but I know not to sh*t in my own backyard.
of course I wouldnt treat my friends like a whore! dont forget thai hookers are in the game purely for the money and we are low lifes who exploit that. I wouldn't treat my regular friends in bkk or anywhere else like a bg so don't confuse the two.
your remark about barfining freelancers?? read the post again - I was talking about gogos/beerbars. some ggogo girls will try and wriggle out of deal when they've been barfined, even if you agree lt and how much beforehand. especially if it's early in the night and they can get back to the bar for more ladydrinks and another st etc. in a situation like that its justifiable to ask the for the barfine back.
anyway, what seajohn says about price (1000st 1500lt) is about right and what I would be willing to pay at present but if they hit me with 2000 or above forget it, at least for another 5 years or so. you could pay 3000 and the girl will take you for a newbie mug and still give you bad service.
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 5:21 am on May 13, 2006
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lucky6666
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wow thanks for all the advice guys. Now that I have this education, I am going out again tonight. and the not discusssing it before hand just discreetely put 1500 in her purse in the morning seems just fine. except it might be too much.
I love this board!
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Bangkok Women : Meet Sensual Bangkok Women
Posted on: 8:41 am on May 13, 2006
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seajohn
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That's right, lucky6666, you just do exactly what we tell you here, and we'll make sure we leave a few OK looking girls for you 555
Just kidding--enjoy yourself tonight...
udonmonkey, well I didn't mean to rag so much on you for your commando post, and thank you for your polite response! I do agree with you in strategy--I live here and just go to go go's very occasionally for scenery. Other venues are much better, FL's being among them. So I don't get mixed up in all the problems that newbies or holiday guys usually get. Seems like you've figured out a way to avoid the hassles.
I hope you are happy enough in your own country with your friends, of course!
Your phrase,
"... dont forget thai hookers are in the game purely for the money and we are low lifes who exploit that."
requires a bit more of an answer. I understand the difference between family, friends, business associates but I don't think I'm a low life. I wouldn't want you to either. Are we low life's because we indulge in a hobby that traditional (and oft hypocritical) Western morality has condemned in order to promote itself and its values and economy? I don't think I can accept that interpretation of myself at this point. Perhaps someone has a vested interest in upholding that belief system. Perhaps their self worth or income would crumble were it neglected. I have learned to accept my predispositions, as we must try to do before we die. That's why I'm here, helping with the distribution. It's really rather a form of high life, don't you agree?
Have fun
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 12:10 pm on May 13, 2006
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lucky6666
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seaJohn I have no idea what you said there. But it sounds good.
probably my fault too much drinking.
So my question tonight; if I brought home 2. Count em, 2 girls (where else but thailand). am I suppoed to pay them the same?
I am going to play, I will check your advice before they leave
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Sexy Bangkok Girls
Posted on: 12:43 pm on May 13, 2006
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seajohn
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Someone help this man. Don't know where you got the girls, that could matter. But short time I always give 1000 each (even though some ST's w/2 chix lasts a long time...). If LTing both and doing them each about twice--once in the night and again in morning--I'd pay closer to 1500 each. But that's me.
If you've been drinking so much, are you really gonna be able to f*** 4 times in 12 hours? Go get em tiger.
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 8:57 pm on May 13, 2006
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bkkz
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And if you are going to do a video, I'd give them an extra 1,000B on top of that.
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Bangkok Women : Meet Beautiful Thai Girls
Posted on: 9:15 pm on May 13, 2006
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lucky6666
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you want to contribute towards that video?
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 10:41 pm on May 13, 2006
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Frank La Rue
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Quote: from seajohn on 2:03 am on May 14, 2006
Are we low life's because we indulge in a hobby that traditional (and oft hypocritical) Western morality has condemned in order to promote itself and its values and economy? I don't think I can accept that interpretation of myself at this point. Perhaps someone has a vested interest in upholding that belief system. Perhaps their self worth or income would crumble were it neglected. I have learned to accept my predispositions, as we must try to do before we die. That's why I'm here, helping with the distribution. It's really rather a form of high life, don't you agree?
Western morality is based on the christian church strive for power. Control of sexual moral through marriage as the only rite gives control over people. The church does not want to give up this control.
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Thai Girls : Meet Active Thai Girls
Posted on: 1:09 am on May 14, 2006
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Mel Gibson
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All this morality crap sounds like a whole lot of bull-twang to me.
Lets get the facts correct to begin with.
Whom is the Spider and whom is the fly?????????
Learn some Thai language,, sit in a bar ( not drunk) and watch, watch and listen, watch LISTEN,, observe these girls at their game,,, Farang walks in thinking he is in contriol ( I laugh my ass off),,,soon he is beside the girl that the other girls decided was most suitable for him and buying drinks for others ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) )
AHHH we are merely flies flying into the web of these Angels,,, resistance is futile.
It is done with what seems like subtleness until you over hear some of the conversations between the girls,,LOL,, makes me smile and the look of astonishment as the farang somehow ends up with a different girl that he THOUGHT ( he dared to assume he could choose ) he wanted. But is still entirely happy.
LOL
kepp smiling
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 3:50 am on May 14, 2006
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emerald
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It's sorta funny how a guy gets himself into this... not knowing how much to pay... until the deed is done. So, here's what happened to me: I went to an OM today. I picked a girl in her early 30's that was about a 6 and we went upstairs. I decided to be up front with her, so after some small talk, and a shower alone, I asked her about FS. I have been told by more than one MG that they just wish they knew the expectations in the beginning. She giggled and said, "yes, but not here. In your room next time." So, I took her at her word and a very delightful erotic lotion massage ensued.
After an hour or so of ultra stimulation, she crawled up and mounted, with me on my back and her wearing her thong, bra, and a towel. I remembered what she said earlier, so I just went along with it, and did some playing of my own. After about 20 minutes of me with fingers in both holes at the same time and her thong totally to the side and lots of deep kissing, I told her that I DID have condoms if she "change mind." I was close to cumming from all of this, and a HJ really isn't my preference, so I suggested my place tomorrow. She said, "you have condom today?" Well, you can guess the rest. We couldn't make a sound, breathe heavy, or squeek the massage table which incidentally was very, very small. She stayed on top and she came quite discreetly, but noticeably.
I knew this position on this tiny table wasn't going to work for me to cum. And I kept thinking how delectable it would be be to invade her cute little backside. So, we stood and I gently bent her over the table. Suddenly I realized I needed my KY jelly. {DAMN that's the problem in not being at home at a time like this.} She suggested using the oily lotion {don't they know better than to mix oil and condoms? There's a lesson here for all of us.} So, I aborted the mission. I got back on the table and she finished me off with my way-lower-preference HJ.
Nothing had been said about the tip. All I knew for sure was how much the 2 hour massage was going to be. When I asked her how much for her tip, she said "up to you" over and over, which didn't surprise me.
I did some quick figuring in my head... since she was such a good sport and it really was a good time, I decided to go ahead and give her 1500 bt tip, which is the going rate for FS, at least from my own experience at similar venues and from what I've read on this forum. When I handed the money to her, she laid on her side on the table, counted it more than once and said, "but other girl here say customer give 3000-4000-5000."
We visited about the amount. I simply suggested politely to her that 1500 was the going rate and, is she wants more, she needs to say in the beginning. Then, I told her, I can decide in the beginning if I want FS or not.
When I left, she was polite, but I know she wasn't happy. I know I won't/can't go back there again, because maybe they DO have a clientele that pays that kind of money. It's sure ok with me if they do, more power to them, but I know I realistically cannot play that game. It's difficult for me to believe that they have lots of fat cats for customers as I looked around at other customers in the place.
I really felt like I did all that I could. Any comments would be welcome. I just never like to leave a nice person disappointed.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 5:21 am on May 14, 2006
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