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cmore
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Quote: from Minder on 4:57 am on Oct. 8, 2003
Also there are so many factors involved in what is the correct price on that night for that girl that arguments over the actual price agreed on are pointless.
You're absolutely right about that, but agreeing on a fee before hand is not what we're talking about here. We're talking about those guys who just decide on what they intend to pay, without discussing it with the lady first, and just slipping it into her purse in the morning before she leaves and once again I'll say that 500 baht for LT is insulting. Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý
BTW- When I come to LOS I pay in the local currency not in my own countries currency so it's not a consideration to me how much my currency is worth compared to theirs. If the exchange rate or how far I can stretch my vacation money were an issue to me the #1 answer for me would be to not go in the first place. Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý
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When I was there in May the rate was 42 to 1. When I sent BK the money to buy a round of drinks at the Aug. RT the rate was down to 39 to 1. When I was there two weeks ago the rate was down to 38 to 1. Did I still pay the same prices two weeks ago that I paid in May? You bet cha. Did it bother me at all? Not in the least bit. Actually I took this to possibly mean that the Thai economy was finally on an up turn but was informed that this may only be a by product of the APEC meeting, darn. Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý
When I go on vacation I go to get away from bills and problems and worries for a week or two. Last thing I want is to take those problems and worries with me. Also when I go on vacation the money I bring is disposible money that I save just for that purpose. I really don't care whether I take any of it back home with me, therefore I really don't care how much it's worth somewhere else. If I did care the simple solution to that would be to just not go in the first place. Just one mans opinion. One more point. It's not really us that are calling guys Cheap Charlie, it's the ladies themselves. Speaks volumes to these ears. Peace
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Posted on: 7:54 am on Oct. 7, 2003
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Minder
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.......but agreeing on a fee before hand is not what we're talking about here. We're talking about those guys who just decide on what they intend to pay, without discussing it with the lady first, and just slipping it into her purse in the morning before she leaves
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Nope, Cmore, you lost me. Ý Isn't not discussing it the same as NOT agreeing on a price beforehand?
And yes, part of my reason for discussing and agreeing beforehand is so that the girl won't spend half the night worrying that I really am a "cheap charlie" who will only pay her a lousy 500 baht afterward. Ý In fact another part of agreeing beforehand is that most of the girls I have selected have had a damn fine work ethic and have set out it seems to earn every baht of the agreed price. Ý
Far from removing the "performance incentive" I feel it gets the business aspect out of the way and allows both of us to go back to the make believe of the GFE without worrying what unpleasantness the morning might bring.
As to exchange rates and disposable incomes etc the reality is that you are always going to be in LOS with more baht to burn than me on a dollar for dollar basis - saying that someone who has 50,000 baht to spend should splash money around the same way as someone who has 100,000 makes no sense.
Yeah 500 baht for LT is an insult - but I think the more baht the punter has the bigger that insult is.
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Posted on: 11:44 am on Oct. 7, 2003
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cmore
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Yeah bro it looks like I did lose you because I was actually agreeing with you. I also believe in asking the ladies before hand what compensation they're looking to get before I pay the BF. As far as I'm concerned they are the only ones that have the right to set a price for their services, it's their time and body after all. Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý
If I feel their price is too high I just politely decline and move on, and like you said it gets all that money talk out of the way at the beginning so that we can spend the rest of the night relaxing and enjoying each others company. To me talking money doesn't take away from the GFE in the least bit. Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý
What I was talking about before was about those who choose to just assume they can get away with whatever amount they decide is fair to pay. I still have a hard time believing the guy who went for a TTM and was offered "extra service" and only gave the lady a 20% tip for that service. This is why I believe talking about compensation before hand is so important, but I guess I can only speak for myself. To each his own. Peace
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Posted on: 7:04 pm on Oct. 7, 2003
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ChicagoGuy
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In the case of a go-go, what works for me (and not for everyone) is that I TELL them (with as much confidence as I can) that I want to take them, where we are going, what we are going to do, how long I want them to stay, and the amount of money I will give them. ÝThen I ask them if they are OK with that. Ý4 times out of 5, it is OK. Ý1 time out of 5, it is not. ÝThis discussion takes place after I have decided 100% that I want to take them, but before I pay a bf.
Once this is out of the way, no money is discussed ever again, and I do not even pay them directly. ÝI put it in their bag or their pocket before they leave.
This is a good approach for me because I know in advance that they are happy with the arrangment, I don't worry, they don't worry, and I can try to have a good time with them. ÝIn the 1 time out of 5 that my offered gift was not up to their expectations, I am happy to decline their counter-offer  and move on.
What I pay might be more than they usually get, it might be less, but they are making the decision to accept or reject. ÝI'd rather do it this way than ask them how much, then have to bring them down to the price I am comfortable paying. ÝTo each his own.
I know now that one particular girl (I have spent a lot of time with) would have answered a "how much?" question from me with a number that was much higher than I told her I would give her when I first met her. ÝWhen I met her in the bar, I used the approach described above. ÝShe heard my offer, then looked me over pretty good, thought about it, thought about it some more, then said OK. ÝIt is totally up to her whether to go with me or not.
90% of girls I go with come from go-go's, I like to see them naked (or near naked) before I go with them  Ý
Everyone knows that the compensation level acceptable to a BKK go-go girl is not the same as that of a Central Pattaya Beer bar girl, although my general approach might work with them as well ... I've never tried one.
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Posted on: 10:11 am on Oct. 8, 2003
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Tsonoqua
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ChicagoGuy:
It looks as if you have stumbled onto a winning formula. ÝI'll try it out and get back to you.
cmore said:
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As far as I'm concerned they are the only ones that have the right to set a price for their services, it's their time and body after all.
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I certainly wish that my boss felt that way. ÝI have to negotiate with him to set the prices for my services. ÝWhich is why I don't mind negotiating with TGs.
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 3:03 pm on Oct. 8, 2003
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KiNHoY
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In the short time I've been a member here, I've read a number of discussions regarding TG rates and they always leave the newb, such as myself, without the straight answers needed to pay a fair and reasonable price. The veterans complain that we are paying too much and helping drive up the prices for all, but when we ask what's fair, everyone has a different answer.
I've been to BKK only once, and most likely overpaid for the TG's services. My next trip is coming soon and it would be nice if I could have a fair range of rates for the following:
Nana Go-go girl ST
Soi Cowboy go-go girl ST
Patpong go-go girl ST
BBG ST
Thermae ST
for example: Nana gogo girl ST 1000-1500
Can you do it?
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Posted on: 5:09 pm on Oct. 8, 2003
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Oaktoad
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Kinhoy, that info has been posted here (and other places) so often that it gets tiring..
In addition, everyone has their own idea so read between the lines ..
By the way it should be "Ginhoy" .. if you are going to act like you are cool with Thailand, then at least do it right.
How much help do you really need? Are you going to need someone to help you with everything??
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 5:25 pm on Oct. 8, 2003
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mcdonald
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Guys
I think that it should be borne in mind that this is a third world country and that prices paid should reflect that. If you are paying 5000 baht a time, as some guys do, then you are being ripped off big time. This has nothing to do with being a Cheap Charlie, it is about paying the market rate. Is it any wonder that so many Thais think that we are idiots ?
Lets face it when you check into a hotel in Thailand that charges 1000 baht a day you don't think "well back home I would pay 5500 for the same class of hotel, so I'll pay that here" do you?
The maximum prices I pay are Go Go girl 1500 baht and beer bar girl or freelancer 1000 baht. Both LT as I never go ST.
Although I dont pay the 500 baht LT rate myself those of us paying 500 baht LT are paying well in excess of what a BG would earn per day working in a factory, and if the girl agrees to it then how is it insulting?
With regard to agreeing the price, I have found that it is best to agree it with the girl before hand, it lets both of you know where you stand.
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Posted on: 11:11 pm on Oct. 9, 2003
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haam sup
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Oaktoad,
While I agree with much of what you say, I have but one word for you:
Midol.
haam sup
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 11:27 pm on Oct. 9, 2003
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Yurune
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Then it would be 'Grungthep'
'kin' works for me
Bickering about transliteration is pointless, we all learn different ways.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 11:33 pm on Oct. 9, 2003
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