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sirtitus
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Dirty guru,
Thanks for the advice. I do intend to go back to Thailand and see her again and take it from there. Who knows where it'll go.
To answer your questions:
Her age is 25 (I'm only 3 years older than her). She has no tattoos (but several scars which she said were from a motorcycle accident). She hardly drank at all even though I offered to buy many times and was drinking myself.
She seemed to be very much into her religion and she spent a long time praying when we went to the Golden Buddha (one of the tourist things I wanted to do). She also wears a bracelet of some Buddhist signficance... not sure what... I don't know much about the religion.
She was definitely a happy and pleasant person to be around. She laughed easily, honestly, and a lot. Her smiles never seemed forced.
As for me, I'm 28 and it was my first trip to Thailand. I had a wonderful time and I'm definitely going back - regardless of how things work out with this girl. I'm not thinking sponsorship at this time but that could change down the road.
My own take on the situation is that she is a great girl in a hard situation in life. I came along and treated her like gold (as it should be). She could see me simply as cash in her pocket or as a way out of her current lifestyle. I prefer to think of the latter.
Cheers
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 11:50 pm on Jan. 26, 2004
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hzink
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Quote: from sirtitus on 12:50 pm on Jan. 27, 2004
She could see me simply as cash in her pocket or as a way out of her current lifestyle. I prefer to think of the latter.
Just a word of caution : You do realize that neither viewpoint is the basis of a serious, long-term relationship, right?
Harry
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Bangkok Women : Meet Sensual Bangkok Women
Posted on: 12:31 am on Jan. 27, 2004
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Arcadius made some excellent points, of course. Isn’t he always??
I am not going to pontificate much, but let me tell you a story what happened to me.
Late 2002 I got really attracted to this BG. I live in Asia since 14 years and had my share of relations with girls, and encounters with BG’s all across. I barfined this girl a couple of times and we were quite a team. She was always in a good mood, cheerful but still gratious. After some time she asked if she could come to my home after work “I only go shorttime”. So she did. Except for some time when there were some big bucks being offered. She also gave me her email password and came up to my office, where I checked them and explained them to her. Several guys offered to take care of her but she always refused, telling them she had a steady boyfriend, me. Most of them were okay with it, as long as I was.
She wanted to marry me, but I wasn’t ready. She told me she had a way to make me wanna marry her, you know what. Basically we had a good time together, I was her catalysator, she could talk to me about everything, I could listen and give her my point of view. She had enough money in the bank, never asked for any cash, I bought the food for her, some presents (nothing expensive).
Then things turned out differently. Her mom died and it was her obligation to pay for a big funeral. All her money was gone now. She went up to her hometown for a few weeks. We talked on the phone several times a day. “Me thinking to much” was what she always said.
She came back a different person. She was thinking about how to take care of her family (the father didn’t work, a lazy brother and a smaller sister at school).
I wasn’t ready to do, what I should have done. Go up there, give them a dowry, ask her father to give me the hand of his daughter, send him 10’000 baht a month for his expenses, get the sister through school, lazy brother found a job in the meantime and was supporting himself.
That’s why she changed. Thanks to some elements of Mike and Noi’s story I know now.
But I know, she still loved me. Her visits to my house became less frequent, but always under the influence of alcohol. Also she changed her password for her email account. But still denied having any other boyfriend or sponsor… I did not believe her anymore.
She was a changed person, all of a sudden all her friends came from the bar, she was lying all the time, and was asking me for money anytime, she saw me. Of course, I gave it to her, after all I was not giving much previously. They were small amounts.
On one visit to the bar (a bar I still frequented quite a lot), about 3 or 4 girls came up to me and asked me “you and XX finished??” I said I wasn’t sure. So I talked with the owner, so he confirmed to me that she had a regular sponsor, and that were going to get married soon in America.
Now I was angry. Very angry. So I called her and she denied everything. She even came to my house couple of days later and she was all over me. I didn’t want sex... I really tended to believe the owner more than her. So the next morning I confronted her. She finally broke down and confessed. Somebody made her an offer she couldn’t refuse. He paid for the house at her home, meaning he paid off the mortgage or some of her fathers depths. So she was going to marry him.
I condemned her for her actions and accused her of throwing her live away and being a changed person, not same same before.
She said, that I didn’t understand, well she was right. But I understand a bit more now.
"Me not love him, love only you to much". Her friends at the bar told her that she would be back in less then two years with lots of money in the bank
She has no intentions of staying in America. “I need to stay with my father and my family, they need me, I need them”. I think she will be back in less then 2 years…
She has begged me to wait for her.
rtb
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 1:29 am on Jan. 27, 2004
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nemisis
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Quote: from expatchuck on 5:50 am on Jan. 24, 2004
One thing that seems to be constantly overlooked in these type threads is the fact that some farangs are just sh_tty judges of character.
I have one ex-wife and several ex-girlfriends. Regardless of the reasons for my mistakes, it would appear to me that since I MADE THE CHOICE to pursue the relationship, IT IS MY FAULT.
I have nobody to blame but myself. Therefore it appears it would seem of paramount importance that I should understand myself before I try and dissect an entire culture.
Don't blame them for your own poor judgement. I don't!
As well as poor judgment, a lot of the people who complain about the way the Girls act or behave are also to blame for the way they treat them.
If you make a commitment follow it through, you only have to read a small amount of the threads here to realise how sh_tty some of the guys are that were or still are married to TG's! You expect them to be "good", look in your own mirror first! N
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Sexy Bangkok Girls
Posted on: 3:45 am on Jan. 27, 2004
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madfrog
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Thanks to Sirtitus, Arcadius,RTB,CG
AND DIRTY GURU  (you have impressed me with that one man!)
,this thread is one of the best one I been reading so far about this matter 
By the way Sirtitus, I really enjoyed your description of yourself entering the MP place....really much like me but you are far better at describing it in english
Madfrog
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 3:55 am on Jan. 27, 2004
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Arcadius
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rtb
That's one hell of a story! Show just what a bitch these cultural misunderstandings can be.
Here's hoping it all comes right in the end.
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Bangkok Women : Meet Beautiful Thai Girls
Posted on: 3:56 am on Jan. 27, 2004
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sirtitus
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Quote: from sirtitus on 12:50 pm on Jan. 27, 2004
She could see me simply as cash in her pocket or as a way out of her current lifestyle. I prefer to think of the latter.
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Just a word of caution : You do realize that neither viewpoint is the basis of a serious, long-term relationship, right?
Harry
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Yes, I know... but I still prefer the latter to the former.
Cheers
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 4:03 am on Jan. 27, 2004
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Hermanolobo
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Quote: from hzink on 10:59 pm on Jan. 26, 2004
It *IS* one of thousands of similar stories, but invariably a story about stupidity and naiveté from the guy's side - and now you are blaming an entire cultural gender for your own stupidity? Nice going in taking 'evading responsibility' to an entirely new level.
Seriously, and you're not the only one, but when are guys going to realize (and this applies to chicks as well) that just because you have a bad experience does not mean that your experience can be extrapolated to the entire species.. (or gender, or culture)...?
So, you were married; to an asian wife; it went bad... now ALL ASIAN women are evil, and are to blame for your own immaturity and inability to deal with someone different? Yeah, that's just bloody great, ain't it?
Especially whenever I start reading how the guys thought that they could 'change her'!!! Man, that just reads no different from any chick that believes she can change her man (and can't, as well).
Either you dig a chick, in which case, ACCEPT HER FOR WHO AND WHAT SHE IS. If she's a hooker, then you'll need to live with that. If you can't, here's a hint - DO NOT MARRY HER! (anyways, seems to me that 'marriage' is just a way to stake a property claim for some guys).
Like someone else stated in another thread : "Three words: SEX FOR MONEY". How many more times will we be forced to read the fateful words: She's different; I can change her; I know I should know better, but...; It was great sex, so we got married (classic for americans, or lonely nerds) ; (followed by, a few months later: Thai/Asian/Chinese women are ALL evil...).
Yeah, whatever.
Maybe they'd be less 'evil' if you treated them better, in the way of their own culture. There's plenty of folks out there with succcessful relationships - maybe they'd like to chime in as to what they are doing RIGHT.
Harry
P.S. Sorry 'bout the soapbox, but Hermie's message just triggered my overflow valve on this issue.
Did I say they were 'evil' ? Of course not ! I just commented that the three books reflected my experience and many others I know. My experience was three years ago and I have met a few other Thai women since who have been good company. The point of culture is very important as posted by JHolmesJr on page six of this thread.
In December of last year Bernard Trink commented that Thai women are of very good character and should not be judged on the behaviour of bar girls? Whether both generalisations are true I cannot say but I have read horror stories from people who have had relationships with so-called 'Good or Hi-so' Thai girls.
Maybe we do not hear about the successful relationships just the unsuccessful ones? I would like some statistics on this if they are available.
The most important point to me is if I had the choice would I stay in Europe with European women or Thailand with Thais ? At the moment the Thais win hands down. If I lived in LOS maybe my view might change but for the moment I still must say I like Bar girls ! That's without considering the so-called 'good-girls'.
To repeat the words of Neil Hutchison,"The worst place on the planet is the departure lounge at Don Muang Airport."
As yet I have not found a substitute, the place gets into your blood.
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Thai Girls : Meet Active Thai Girls
Posted on: 4:30 am on Jan. 27, 2004
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rtb,
jaja die gute alte p.! du kannst dir vorstellen, dass ich gerade in einer ähnlichen situation bin! weiß auch nicht genau ob ich jetzt den entscheidenden schritt machen soll, oder lieber das neue vögelchen bearbeite!
das problem von uns hurenböcken ist eben, dass wir uns nie wirklich entscheiden können und wenn dann irgendwie nicht für lange, da so viele andere schönheiten nachwachsen!
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 4:38 am on Jan. 27, 2004
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Hermanolobo
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Blimey 'Griffin' and 'RTB' where did you learn your colloquial German ?
At this stage in the thread I wish to thank all posters for their well thought out replies. I make no apologies for my provocative initial post as it achieved what I wanted. A well thought out honest set of replies about serious issues that affect the board members who have relationships with Thai girls. I am especially pleased that there has been no 'thread f*cking' or smart-arse replies as one board member put it.
Please continue to post, I am personally finding the thread informative and maybe (?) enjoyable.
Once again "Thanks" to the board members.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 4:51 am on Jan. 27, 2004
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