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Abrak
(Ok I know I am going to get flamed on this one but I am going to ask anyway)

The thread 'Home stay in her village' about the simple life and the simple girls upcountry, reminded me of something that has been vexing me for ages. What do you see in these girls? Now I am not talking about picking these girls up in a bar and giving them a good shag - everyone understands that!!

I mean why do you date them and sometimes end up marrying them? Let's face it they have little education, little culture (in a kinda of snobby manners sense) and very limited conversation. I would have thought that a university degree (or preferably a uni student) would be a minimum requirement for a real girlfriend. I mean you wouldnt be dating this sort of trailer trash at home - would you?

I assume there are some guys who only want a girl who is:

A cook
A maid
A chick to keep the bed warm

And that conversation, friendship etc. is not something they want from their partner. Is this right?

I can also imagine that there are some guys who get an altruistic thrill about taking a simple girl and giving her a decent life. If that is the case, dont those guys feel they are missing something by not having a real relationship?

I in no way intend to infer any criticism on anyone - as far as I am concerned, anyone can date anyone - male or female, rich or poor, simple or sophisticated. I just dont really get it.



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Posted on: 12:03 am on Nov. 1, 2004
Smegma
Quote:" I in no way intend to infer any criticism on anyone"

Liar. Of course you do. And I think you are doing well. Keep it up.

As to why some guys do that....... maybe is that "Gone With the Wind" southern plantation owner fantasy. They want to get that daily ego boost the little poor thing gives to her master. The less and lower she is, the more and higher he feels he is.

Bombs away!


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Posted on: 12:17 am on Nov. 1, 2004
Phla Laa
Okay my own experience was that I was with this girl who has little education (but savvy enough to lead me down that bitchy road) because: 1) I want to learn Thai 2) She's hot and tight.

Should have kept it that way but along the way I got myself confused and begin imagining that I can sort of buy her life (of course that time it was more romantic thought than 'buy her life') and get her to be with me everyday etc etc.... Also that maybe I can change somebody gives me probably a nice feeling after all... After a harrowing year and almost a million baht later, I realized to my dismay that I was dreaming.. She's more a liability (and a cheat, and I'm a moron) than I thought and the fact that we can't talk about anything other than: money, sex, other man, other woman, kin lau, tiao, starts to sink in to me. And I was hoping that everything could be rosy with her!

Prior to this I was dating a 'good' girl with career, ambition, money and it was a failure, too for different reasons. I guess that's why I swing to the other extreme end, and sadly it was an expensive lesson for me that I can't live with the other extreme either.


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Posted on: 12:58 am on Nov. 1, 2004
Abrak
PhaLaa,

While I appreciate your post it kinda misses the point. You sort of say I got involved with a 'village girl' and then I realised my mistake (of course I can understand that). The fact remains that there are a lot of guys out there who have 'village girls' as GFs or wives and are extremely happy in their relationships. These are the guys I would like to hear from.

Smegma,

Genuinely I dont mean any criticism - which is a bit strange in some respects. I might criticise a friend back home who ended up marrying the equivalent of trailer trash but in LOS, I kind of empathize, even if I dont understand it.


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Posted on: 1:36 am on Nov. 1, 2004
LocalYokul

Quote: from Abrak on 12:18 pm on Nov. 1, 2004

........I mean why do you date them and sometimes end up marrying them? Let's face it they have little education, little culture (in a kinda of snobby manners sense) and very limited conversation


maybe it's so we don't have to pay 10k Baht per dinner (& aren't expected to), unless we're feeding around 100 people

oh, and if the conversation is limited, it's because your Thai sucks ! !

of course there's always the argument that the BGs are almost all from Eesahn and speak better Lao than Thai, but they still are able to understand the central Thai

BTW, I've been told by some BGs that my pronunciation of real Thai is better than their Eesahn twist on it


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Posted on: 1:56 am on Nov. 1, 2004
LocalYokul

Actually there were the hot lasses who stayed in their house/plantation neglected by their man while he was out whoring, or even in the slave's quarters getting his groove on, or in a corner of the house with the maid/cook/nanny

They'd have secret rendezvous with the slaves, groundskeepers, etc. as well

nowadays we just call it slummin'



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Posted on: 2:19 am on Nov. 1, 2004
Singlolo
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I can also imagine that there are some guys who get an altruistic thrill about taking a simple girl and giving her a decent life. If that is the case, dont those guys feel they are missing something by not having a real relationship?
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You got the point here.

Some guys might have had a "bitchy life" in their home country trying to get a girlfriend or getting laid.
This guy would come to Thailand and find a good looking girl ready to spend the night with him for a few 1000s. Next day, they go eat somtham in Soi Nana and end up visisiting the Family back in Eesan.
After a week, the guy is no more worry about getting laid, feels like is doing something good in is life and feels like he is starting a new life !

Its all good if you bring her back in your home country, the neighbour will think you are a perv but WTF, you are in love. After a while she will settle down and make plenty of other Thai girl friends.

Pb is if you stay in thailand coz each time you will be going out with her there would be people looking down on her which will become harder to deal with day after day.......

3rd option you settle down in her village, and spend most of your time with the Familly drinking singha and having non sense discussion all day long waiting for the next 'Fai Mai" or any other sort of local event (Football game.....).

Anyway, Abrak you are such a "Special Animal".......

Cheers,


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Posted on: 2:43 am on Nov. 1, 2004
hzink
Guys, it's actually quite easy - it's just the easy availability of sex, combined with a really screwed up porgramming by western culture, and you end up with that situation that Abrak doesn't understand.

90% of the girls I met fall in the category of 'hot shag', but not much else - though there's the occasional that is 'interesting' and able to uphold (or even direct) an interesting and deep conversation, or that rises above the rest. (*)

Still doesn't mean I'd want to marry her (renting is always cheaper than leasing), but if I turn off the rational intelligence in my cranium, I can see how some guys running on emotional autopilot (as so many FOB's do) would fall for that and pull a 'Cameron' when they hit LOS.

I would assume, Abrak, that you excluded those guys from your inquiry that are just looking for a cheap maid (cheap? Ha!), free sex (Free? Ha!), or a local housecat...?

(*) My way of figuring out which category she is, is easy - just take her out for food or drinking to a quiet place first, to see what she talks about - then, in the hotel, she either:

- starts getting undressed the moment she's in the room. Forget about it, she's just there for one reason, and it ain't your conversation.

- turns on the TV, and starts watching a soap opera, or musc videos. Unless, she turns to Discovery channel, hop in your shower, and have a great time.

- sits down to continue the last conversation you had with her, and neither turns the TV on, or gets undressed - you *might* be on to something there. I've met three that fit that behavior... (Still, doesn't mean you ought to marry her, but she's good for a 2nd day).

Again, your mileage may vary, and I certainly would be interested to read others' impressions and experiences.

Harry


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Posted on: 2:55 am on Nov. 1, 2004
BigDUSA
One of my favorite bars in Pattaya, The FLB has 20 to 25 BG gets married every year to falongs. I've talked to the owner about this. What do these guys have in common with these girls. Most of them speak very limited English and the guys for the most part speak almost no Thai. Sometimes there's a big age difference and most of the guys take the women back to their home country. I haven't been able to figure how this works out if it does.

I've been happily (for the most part) married three times and the ability to talk to your partner is the most important ingredient to a successful relationship.


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Posted on: 4:02 am on Nov. 1, 2004
French Goat
Well, Abrak, I am one of these guys who married an upcountry girl and who is fool enough to live in her village here, in Northeastern Thailand.

I wouldn't say that my Thai wife has little culture. She has a different culture than mine, and hers is also very interesting and we both enjoy to share our respective knowledge and to explain our differences. We also are both tolerant enough to try to understand each other's point of view and also to learn from the other one: language, of course, but also religion, history, politics, music, books, movies, food, etc.

Of course, it is sometimes easier to have a relationship with somebody who possesses the same backgrounds, but I believe that our lives are getting far more interesting when you are willing to discover another culture which is really different than yours. Before meeting my then future wife, I stayed during more than 7 years with an actress. She is not very famous yet, but is already well-known from most of the theater professionals in Paris. She is from an high-so family in France, very well-educated, and she is considered as an intelligent and brilliant person. But this lady with all her relations, diplomas and culture is not as open-minded as my little Thai girl from Issan, because all her values and ideas are biased by her education and influenced by her (very limited IMHO) elitist environment.

I can tell you for sure that I have more fun with my Thai wife, and not only between the sheets. I am proud to help her to know more about my world and I discover hers a little bit more everyday. It is an infinite source of joys. Both of us are willing to teach and learn.

Just my two satangs…


Cheers,


French Goat



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Posted on: 4:26 am on Nov. 1, 2004
     

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