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Noknoi
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The Folly of Noknoi?
I would like to get some feedback on this issue. Some of you are familiar with this soap opera and some are not. A brief synopsis
Noknoy is my LTGF. Nok is a 23 yo Tha-Khmer-Isan-Chinese female from Buriram. She came from reasonably well-off (relatively speaking) yeoman farmer family. Family had enough money to send all kids to high school. Nok has 2 year of college. 2.5 years ago, Mom died and shattered the family. Father went into debt for funeral expenses. Mother ran most of the family business and father did little. Nok is the oldest daughter. She quit school and went to work in bar. She was a virgin at the time. I met her in month four of BG life. It was obvious how fresh she was and perfect health body with firm round upward breast, big booty. After almost a decade of punting, she turned out to be the best f*** I have had in my life and very funny and personable. She ended becoming my LTGF. I offered to pay 6000bht/ month. When I came to visit her for the second time, things went well. After that visit, she began coming up with emergencies. You know same ole shit. I am very familiar with Kreng Jai and completely except the realities of having a serious and committed relationship with a TG. I was married to a non-BG TG before. However, the same old shit kept coming up. I know as a fact she was honest and she did not have another BF. Nevertheless, this would not have been a problem for me as I am a swinger and made it clear to hear that I would have enjoyed watching her f*** another guy, she could f*** other men while I was gone (which she did after asking my permission), and that she could even have another palm sugar daddy. Last year I had a good year and did pay 40k for a big land debt.
On the issue here. I have been w/18 mos and now and have been back and forth to LOS several times. She keeps asking for more money every two weeks. I have been giving in about 50% of the time (BIG mistake) but four weeks I draw a line in the sand. This pissed her off and I informed her that her status as LTGF has been downgraded to GF when I am in Bangkok. I informed her that she will receive 3000bht every two weeks, I will pay her tuition only if she provides me with invoice (she has been back in school for the past six months), and I will purchased medical coverage for her. She was happy about this, so says she. I am also paying for her univ tuition, uniforms, and books. As expected, she sent me an email telling me that 3000bht every two weeks is not enough. I informed her that this is what she gets and that if she continues to press the issue, her GF status will be downgraded BG status, ST or LT, if I even want to see her again. If she learns her lesson and changes (which I doubt) I will raise her salary. Since this time she has been very cold and has not been sending meas many Em or Ims as she used to you. She has figured out that I am not another need farang.
I am not giving in. I can probably afford to send her a little more, but it is the principle of the matter and her spoiled attitude. In six months I will getting a 40% raise and will be able to send more, if I chose to.
Am I being unreasonable here?
Am I being blinded and stupid?
Remember, I’ve been around and she is a 1 in a 100 catch and she can f*** like no other TG can f***.
Thanx for any comments
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Posted on: 8:58 pm on Feb. 16, 2005
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macaler
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NokNoi...
It really doesn't matter her upringing, eduaction level etc.. It's all irrelevent to the situation.
Unfortunatly, It appears that you have fallen into the sponsorship role. There was never any mention of love etc. She knows this so now will do the best to improve her lot in life. If you dont give in (and even if you do) she will continue to ask for more and more.
You have downgraded her and told her so, vice keeping your mouth shut and just doing it within your own mind. By doing this she realizes that she is just a trophy to you, and nothing more.
It appears that she may have been playing you all along (i.e. emergencies) and now is going for checkmate, which she may not get, but she has you in check, hence your post here.
I was in a similar situation a while back. Mine was slightly different as there was love, I never paid weekly/monthly, never any emergencies etc. SHe left bar scene ages ago and got a regular job, after a while, she quit that and went home to Issaan. I even built her a house!!! (cheap enough)
But as the relationship went on she started to get flippant with the bit of cash I would give her, or leave her when I left. This was the first time in 3 years. she started acting like this.
Basically she needed more security as She was not legally attached to me!
I finally gave up on her and broke up with her.. there was no other choice in my eyes. It was difficult to make the decision as as I was vested and invested. However, with advice from the brothers here and my own feelings, I broke all ties.
That was last summer. I came back to Japan, she called and called. SHe still does. Still says she loves me etc. Hasn't asked for any cash. I have talked with her, she is still home, running a laundry business and supporting herself. I told her it was about time.
As I can see it, let her go.. She will survive, you will find a new GF. Cut your losses and move on.
If in future she comes back to you without the caveats of $$.. Then it maybe it was meant to be.
Just my 2 cents... from experience and advice taken from here.
I'm happier and better off for it!!
Good luck
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Posted on: 9:19 pm on Feb. 16, 2005
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Bok Hah
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Quote: from Noknoi on 1:52 am on Feb. 17, 2005
The Folly of Noknoi?
She has figured out that I am not another need farang.
I am not giving in. I can probably afford to send her a little more, but it is the principle of the matter and her spoiled attitude. In six months I will getting a 40% raise and will be able to send more, if I chose to.
Am I being unreasonable here?
Am I being blinded and stupid?
Remember, I've been around and she is a 1 in a 100 catch and she can f*** like no other TG can f***.
Thanx for any comments
Only you can know these answers, but 18 months is a long time to be sending one BG money, it sounds like you're one of many sponsors if she's as hot as she sounds.
Why not find another new recruit, there's enough to choose from at Ekamai or Morchit.
After 10 years of coming to Los, I met a fresh young BG, she made me feel different to the others. I sent her money and made her go home ( no swinging for me )
We got married, that was 8 years ago and we're still happy with 2 great kids.
Life is what you make it, or not ?
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Posted on: 10:38 pm on Feb. 16, 2005
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koolbreez
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I'm trying to figure out what your future plans for this relationship were. It sounds to me that you are so blinded by her sexual prowess, that you have no plans other than the ability to be with her at your request, for how long you chose. To have this privilage you are paying her bt6000/month, not alot as sponsorships go.
If I read this right, you also have restrictions on what the money can be spent on.
You met her early in her BG career, now it's 18 months later, and she's hardening up. She knows that you are not steadfast in how much money she can get over, and above the bt6000/month, so why shouldn't she try to get more every chance she gets. I'm not downgrading why she needs it in any manner.
IMHO you've forgotten that this was a business arrangement when you first met her, and 18 months later it still is.
What I would suggest to get this back on track is to simply explain to her that you will give her is bt6000 a month, and for this you want her to be your play toy when you vacation in LOS. You should expect exceptional service from her. You are paying her bt6000 a month over her normal LT rate, (I asume you are also paying her LT rates), for the type of service you have recieved in the past. She's definately earning the money from what I read, so don't put restrictions on how she spends it.
By getting in perspective what you require for your money from her, she might mellow out. I doubt she will be willing to give up an extra bt6000 a month just because she's mad at you for not giving her more. Be firm, don't let her play you for a stupid farang. She's toughening up, you should be too.
Just my 2 cents worth
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Posted on: 10:59 pm on Feb. 16, 2005
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manowar
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6000 bahts/mon ? If she is as good in bed as you said, she can get that in one or two days. If you just want to give her the money as you are a charitible person and you feel for her plight, then just give and do not ask for any favor back. It will make you feel much better. When you attach conditions to your "giving", then it is no longer a giving, it's a business transaction. And for that, 6000 bahts/month ain't going to buy you much in BKK or anywhere else in the world. Sorry for the bluntness, but it's reality check time.
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 11:12 pm on Feb. 16, 2005
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Noknoi
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Thanx alot guys. All outstanding advice and I intend to synthesize all the info. Actually, I do not pay her when I am there. There is love between us and it is pretty strong.
Manoway, I have let her know that I am giving her money as a friend and one that cares. This has cause her to be less demanding in the last month and less of a brat.
The problem is that I have shown here my neediness in so many ways. I have really gone through alot of personal growth in the last six months and now she is realizing that I am no longer so needy for her. This is knocking her off her frame of reference and she is not sure where to go.
Nevertheless, I am very much at peace with this and quite sabai about it. I will be in LOS for six weeks and we will see what will happen. It is essential that I do not plan my time around her and that I maintain firm control of the relationship.
As far as my intentions go. Well, comrades, I have sown my wild oats. I am not a young man and do wish to settle down. I could see a marriage situation with Noknoy or someone else for that matter.
Piece and Peace Bros!!!!
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Bangkok Women : Meet Beautiful Thai Girls
Posted on: 11:22 pm on Feb. 16, 2005
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griffin
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thb 6000 doesn't buy you anything in bkk! even in deep down issan it is not the jackpot. normal minimum apanages that I am aware of are around thb 10.000 to 15.000.
the problem for her is evident, she stays with you such a long time (tg thinking) and no commitment from you whatsoever. the money is to little to be comfortable with and your relationship is not going forward for her as well. unfortunately a lot of tg's want a lt perspective within 12 months of a relationship or so. this is perfectly fine as they are 'wasting' their youth and prime time for us farangs. if you aren't the one providing her with a future she will have to stop wasting her time and look for somebodyelse as long as she is still desirable for others!
so go ahead provide her with enough security and a future if you really care about her! this either/and means proposing to her and more financial support or drop it asap as she eventually will as soon as she realises that there is no future with mr. noknoi!
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Posted on: 9:07 am on Feb. 17, 2005
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manowar
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totally agreed with griffin. I think she is at the "breaking" point with you. Most women wants security ( both emotional and financial), and you guys have been at it for so long but she is seeing neither from you. It's fish or cut-bait time, bro !
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Posted on: 12:35 pm on Feb. 17, 2005
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