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forsa
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I’ve been a member of this board for a while now, but pretty much just as a lurker. I truly enjoy the exchange of info and I’ve picked up lots of great pointers… so now that it’s over with her, I thought I’d share my TGF experience with everyone.
I was first in Thailand about a year and half ago for a very brief time as part of a larger vacation. In that time I met a girl a in a nana bar… that’s when all the good and bad times began. I BF’d her and had a so so experience with her in bed but fell for the girl’s personality (her looks – big tits for TG, helped with the attraction as well  I left for Samui with a friend as planned, but returned a few days later because I couldn’t get her out of my mind. I spent 2 more days with her before I had to leave to move onto the next leg of my vacation. I only paid her bar fine 2 days and paid her only one night (even though she didn’t want it) the whole time I was with her. I’m new to P4P… I’m in my thirties, but look younger, quite successful back home, well educated and considered handsome (not just by the TG’s). No shortage of farang girls interested back home, but just like the rest of your guys, tired of their games.
Ok, I don’t want to tout my desirability and make it sound like I have a big ego, but it seemed that my new relationship with this girl was not just about money like I read so much about. So… I went home and we began a daily web-cam chat relationship. I really started to think I was getting to know her well, but approached things guardedly based on all the things I read on this board. I never sent her any money, but I did buy her a nice mobile phone. So of course I planned another trip, and in the summer went to go see her with 2 buddies of mine. (by the way, during this time, I know she was still working at the bar, but she did stop for a while because she got sick, but then returned. She claimed only to work “reception,” and from what I gather from her friends she was telling the truth mostly but I deduced that she did go with the odd very high-paying customer).
Ok, so now I am back in Thailand for three weeks… we spent most of the time in Phi Phi and Phuket and BKK and had a great time. We had parties with my buddies that came with me and spent lots of time with her friends and sister. We had talked for months about her getting a visa to my country for a 3 month visit and we were working angles on how to pull that off. I hate to admit it, but I fell in love with a BG, but she really did seem so sincere and loyal to me that it seemed too good to be true based on what I had learnt about these girls. She was very jealous and we had some fights about this – she would check my mobile, if I was commenting on other girls for my friends, she would get pissed off etc… typical TGF stuff right? At night she would do her little pray to Buddha routine and then face my feet on the bed and bow to me. Said I was the only man she ever did this respect thing for other than her father bla bla bla. Anyways, we became quite close and my friends were really getting sick of us because we’d be all over each other 24/7.
I took care of her very well while I was in Thailand, but she knew my position that unless she was with me in my country, I would not support her. I left her the cash I had left when departed and gave her an ATM card with a small amount of cash for “emergencies”. After I left she didn’t know what to do. She knew I didn’t want her working in a bar and she wanted to lead a legit life, so she decided to get a “good job” and go to university. So she started classes at Ramkhamhaeng University and got a job at MBK. Well, as expected she couldn’t handle the workload of both and went back to work a nana. I didn’t know this at the time, but knew something was up. I caught her in some lies and she claimed to be sick and going back to the hometown so she wouldn’t be able to contact me. This was in the fall. I knew she way lying but I didn’t know what was up (I used selfdestructingmail.com to know she was reading my emails and not responding. Also, you can tell where an email is being sent by tracing the IP in the email header). Anyways, no contact for months… this was very strange based on my year or so relationship with her (I wish I could post some of her I will die without you emails to me which were her usual).
So I tried contacting her friends again, and they all told me she was in her hometown. Well I knew they were lying because of my detective work tracing emails etc. Ok, so finally I SMS her very good friend who is a GTG who works in an internet shop. She couldn’t lie to me anymore and fessed up…. she confirmed everything I assumed, and she did acknowledge that my tilak was trying to start a good life by going to university etc. to be loyal to me. But, when she couldn’t hack that, she didn’t want to confess to me… she needed money of course and couldn’t ask me for it so went to work in nana again. Met another farang, got married and is now pregnant! Wow, all in a few months. So she’s kept me dangling all this time… this Thai saving face thing is absolutely ridiculous!
I honestly thought (and still do) that this girl was madly in love with me. I always downplayed my wealth with her… maybe she got impatient. Anyways, it is tough for me to admit, but I was duped into believing she was different from all the other Thai girl stories told here. I’m not naïve and I don’t think I can really go into detail as to why I thought our relationship was different, but in the end money wins over love with these girls. If the dude who married her is a board member – good luck! She’s truly a great girl and one I will always remember.
I will be in LOS in April after songkran for 2 weeks. I have a few days alone before some buddies join me, so if anyone wants to grab a drink and initiate me into the life a butterfly give me a shout. Strangely enough, I spoke with her sister a few days ago on the phone and my ex-tilac’s GTG friend and I might actually meet up with them when I’m there as well. Ok, back to the farang girls to tie me over… ugh.
Forsa.
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 3:50 pm on Mar. 1, 2005
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Noknoi
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Holy shit Forsa, my story is almost identicle. She is even going to Ramkamaheang now. Read some of my other posts and you will see. I am on the verge of dumping her because of all her emergencies and I have been stupid enough to sponsor her. That is ending and I don't there is any way to continue.
Good luck
I was married to a TG for six years (good family) and she played the same stupid games as the BGs. No money no honey and rescuem mom with money, who was well off. I am becoming very cynical about TGs in general and wonder if they have any use besides looking pretty, putting on uniforms and looking good in dept stores and food courts, and of course...f***ing for little money.
Riceman
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Bangkok Women : Meet Sensual Bangkok Women
Posted on: 4:05 pm on Mar. 1, 2005
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Mark Pressure
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Honestly, you think she could send you one e-mail saying she met someone else. She probably wanted to keep you on the back burner just in case her husband didn't work out
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 4:16 pm on Mar. 1, 2005
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forsa
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Quote: from Mark Pressure on 4:10 am on Mar. 2, 2005
Honestly, you think she could send you one e-mail saying she met someone else. She probably wanted to keep you on the back burner just in case her husband didn't work out
Hmmm... that's what I've been thinking all this time, makes sense to us right? Seems to defy Thai logic though.
Now that the cat's out of the bag, we'll see if she has the balls to email me and confess.
Forsa.
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Posted on: 4:23 pm on Mar. 1, 2005
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ColoradoGuy
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Quote: from Mark Pressure on 3:10 pm on Mar. 1, 2005
Honestly, you think she could send you one e-mail saying she met someone else. She probably wanted to keep you on the back burner just in case her husband didn't work out
Not that it makes it right or makes forsa feel any better, but it is understandable because it is just part of her job, which she is still continuing to do.
Plus, she does not want to tell you something you don't want to hear. I have found they will give you bad news only when backed into a corner and forced to (which is not a good position to put them in, it accomplishes nothing, in my opinion).
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Posted on: 4:32 pm on Mar. 1, 2005
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Minder
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Forsa - welcome to the club - the scars and scorch marks are carried by most of us on this board.
Sorry to sound like I think I am the oracle here but truth is I lost a girl the same way. Overall I think it was a good thing (her family were bad news) - BUT it was my failure to make a financial and necessary commitment that left her with no other choice. Put up or shut up as the saying goes.
Having made similar posts in the past I know that it is difficult to accurately relate everything in a year long relationship in a few paragraphs so I am sure there is a lot of detail missing.
However with only what you have posted to work with I'll say this - What did you expect her next move to be? Why didn't you help her to make a go of the Uni thing? Heck, she got a "real" job and started Uni all on the promise of a guy she doesn't really understand - clearly she had hopes. She gave it a try. I doubt I could cope with that workload - the hours at MBK for almost zero baht a day would do me in - and Uni on top. No way.
And what do you do? You hop on a plane and head back to the world and expect her to change her life without any support from you. Do you think the family stopped calling her for money? Do you think the favours she owed at the bar just went away? Do you think her sisters weren't pissin in her ear all day about you being just another lyin farang - "see see he give no money"
And now that she has taken option B - the guy who was prepared to marry her (did you apply for that visitor visa?) and the guy who would put up the money for her - she's the villain? From what you post, I'd say you were her number one choice - until YOU walked away from it!
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Posted on: 7:17 pm on Mar. 1, 2005
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Oaktoad
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it ceases to amaze me how guys get sucked into these type of relationships..
I would say that the stories were made up, but I have heard enough of them to realize that "truth is stranger than fiction"
I am just glad that I was able to see thru all that crap from day one in Thailand (been going there for about 18 years) and I have never got stuck like this..
I would think with sites like this one, these situations would not happen any more, but guys who think with their dicks are doomed to repeat this for years to come..
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Posted on: 7:24 pm on Mar. 1, 2005
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bkkfella
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Forsa
With all due respect, it is clear you are an LOS virgin.
If you come back to LOS again, first buy the book Thailand Fever (Amazon.com has it).
It will educate you about the Thai culture and why
TG's behave this way. Learn about sam nuk bun kun, naam jai, greng jai, gat dtan yoo and you will begin to see just how different the Thai culture is from that of the West.
Telling the truth is way down on the list of priorities when you are trying to survive and have to support your family. Having several guys on the hook is just a response to the many lies they have been told by Farangs (I'll come back soon; I want to marry you but can't send you any money).
If the girl is pretty or hot, she is in demand and will go to the first guy who puts it on the table by really marrying or just sponsoring her.
Here is an interesting statistic for you. I have a friend who owns a big bar here is LOS. He has 50 girls working. Every year he looses 40 of them; they find husbands or sponsors.
So if you see a good one, move fast because she'll likely be gone in a few months.
And lighten up, there are so many wonderful ladies here, you will find another.
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Posted on: 7:26 pm on Mar. 1, 2005
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forsa
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Guys, thanks for the feedback thus far... Minder, you are right there is obviously a lot of detail I couldn't put in this post, but I will stand up for myself in that I did try harder than it may appear in my initial posting.
We talked about getting that visitor visa a lot before I made my return to see her. I had most of it worked out... it was her that flaked out on me with that. I really can't pin point at what time that fell through, but I should have seen the writing on the wall.
As for sponsoring her, I just couldn't bring myself to doing that without having her by my side for all the reasons you guys are throwing out. That is why I wanted her here in my country for the "test drive" before I committed to that. Yes, I truly am a LOS virgin, but damn I really did have serious thoughts of marrying her.
As for helping her out with university and all that... I would have, but she never let on that it was a problem to the extent it became. Then once she went back to work the bar, she was (I assume) too ashamed to contact me, so I couldn't have reacted with financial support if I wanted to.
Bkkfella – I believe the need to "move fast" thing. She really had a stunning package and her sense of humor and personality was great. In retrospect, I can see how she got scooped so fast – but married and pregnant in a couple of months, wow!
I will definitely learn from this and will certainly think twice about a TG relationship. But damn, whenever I was with her in LOS and she turned her back or I was alone, the attention I got from those hot TG's made me feel like a rockstar. Those girls perform some kind of voodoo on you and suck you in. I guess that's why this forum exists right?
Forsa.
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Posted on: 7:50 pm on Mar. 1, 2005
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LocalYokul
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Quote: from bkkfella on 7:20 am on Mar. 2, 2005
Learn about
sam nuk bun kun,
naam jai,
greng jai,
gat dtan yoo
Boon Koon is just a sense of needing to pay pack a favor, the Japanese are far better at this. They actually go around at New Year's and give gifts to the people that have helped them in their past
Nahm Jai - Spirit, you can have either good or bad, but used alone (w/o Dee/Mai Dee) it's considered good
Used to convey hospitable consideration, good will
Greng Jai - a sense of reverence for another because of whatever social status or Boon Koon they have pending with you. BGs who are older and have helped the younger ones into the biz will use Boon Koon and Greng Jai to gain the upper hand on their co-workers
i.e., even though a punter wants to BF the young cute one, the older BG might claim she spotted him 1st, and then the younger one will leave him alone because she is Greng Jai (not wanting to offend) the older BG who she might have Boon Koon pending
Got Dun Yoo - Pressure, social stress (need to survive)
I still think everyone should butterfly their arse off with BGs, and look to college grads for love interests
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Posted on: 7:51 pm on Mar. 1, 2005
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